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8 hours ago, Arabdownunder said:
9 hours ago, tam the bud said:
He was head of personel where I used to work. Known to all the workforce as billy liar and you couldn't trust a word that came out of his mouth.

"I enjoy the game and playing for St Mirren. They are a fine club".

And i enjoyed watching BJ playing for the saints. 

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On 07/08/2020 at 18:41, Flybhoy said:

Sir Fergie of Govan has a swig from a bottle of bubbly whilst St Mirren manager, I'm sure some older posters can name the player next to him.

Mental to think St Mirren actually sacked the guy who went on to be the most successful manager of the modern era. 

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Guessing this is at Dens after they trounced us 4-0 on a Wednesday night to win what was the 2nd tier known then as the First Division. A fantastic side with Fitzpatric, McGarvey, Richardson, Abercrombie to name a few. Well deserved Champions.

On a side note a few hundred Buddies took up a corner of the Derry that night. Normally they would have been hounded out but I think the Dark Blue faithful were stunned by just how good they were that night

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On 07/08/2020 at 19:40, wellinwigan said:

Aye probably the only time ever in the history of football Celtic wore green socks were against St mirren 😯

 

On 07/08/2020 at 20:28, Flybhoy said:

They regularly did then as St Mirren, like Celtic, had a lot of white in their kit, both Morton and Kilmarnock in that era had blue and white hoops so we may have wore the green socks in those home fixtures but unsure if either were in the Premier league that year the picture is from. 

Was watching on YouTube the 1989/1990 Scottish league goals. Celtic wore green socks with their home kit against Dunfermline at East end Park in 1989. Don't know if they did this all the time against Dunfermline prior to this match. 

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On 07/08/2020 at 22:21, Flybhoy said:

I vaguely remember a story about St Mirren sacking a manager around then for swearing in front of the chairman's wife?

 

On 07/08/2020 at 22:33, mcd54 said:

That was Jim Clunie

This happened the same night we had beaten Celtic 2-1 at Parkhead, he was sacked the next morning IIRC, 

We had a great team under JC even better than Fergie's team, our board made a lot of clever decisions back in those days..

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Another European tournament was in the offing though. The French Football Federation came up with a concept involving eight of their clubs playing against eight sides under the combined banner of Scotland and England. The Scottish League rejected this however, so two Friendship Cups were created instead; one for the English to compete against four French clubs, with the other four taking on Scottish teams. Clyde were invited to take part after a fine 6th place finish in the old First Division in 1959-60. They were paired with Racing Club de Lens, who also finished in 6th position in the French League. The town of Lens, in the north of the country, was famous for its coal mining, and the club were financed by the Lens Mining Company. The first leg was played at the Stade Felix-Bollaert on a Sunday afternoon; not only would this be Clyde’s first ever European game, but it also be the first time they played a competitive fixture on a Sunday.

In the other matches, Motherwell saw off Toulouse and Dundee recorded a victory over Valenciennes, which meant Sedan beating Celtic was only a consolation for the French. The Scottish clubs had won the trophy! The Franco-Scottish Friendship Cup ran again the following season but this time without Clyde, who suffered relegation from the Scottish top flight. A lack of interest from fans resulted in poor attendances and only three of the four ties were played, before the tournament was consigned to the history books..

 

 

 

 

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23 hours ago, SouthLanarkshireWhite said:

 

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Another European tournament was in the offing though. The French Football Federation came up with a concept involving eight of their clubs playing against eight sides under the combined banner of Scotland and England. The Scottish League rejected this however, so two Friendship Cups were created instead; one for the English to compete against four French clubs, with the other four taking on Scottish teams. Clyde were invited to take part after a fine 6th place finish in the old First Division in 1959-60. They were paired with Racing Club de Lens, who also finished in 6th position in the French League. The town of Lens, in the north of the country, was famous for its coal mining, and the club were financed by the Lens Mining Company. The first leg was played at the Stade Felix-Bollaert on a Sunday afternoon; not only would this be Clyde’s first ever European game, but it also be the first time they played a competitive fixture on a Sunday.

In the other matches, Motherwell saw off Toulouse and Dundee recorded a victory over Valenciennes, which meant Sedan beating Celtic was only a consolation for the French. The Scottish clubs had won the trophy! The Franco-Scottish Friendship Cup ran again the following season but this time without Clyde, who suffered relegation from the Scottish top flight. A lack of interest from fans resulted in poor attendances and only three of the four ties were played, before the tournament was consigned to the history books..

 

 

 

 

Two noticeable things about this. The full article mentions a crowd of 7,000 at Shawfield.  Looks a bit more than that, so getting lifted over the turnstyles must have been still going strong. Also, not often you see Clyde in all white.

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On 09/08/2020 at 09:29, SouthLanarkshireWhite said:

 

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Another European tournament was in the offing though. The French Football Federation came up with a concept involving eight of their clubs playing against eight sides under the combined banner of Scotland and England. The Scottish League rejected this however, so two Friendship Cups were created instead; one for the English to compete against four French clubs, with the other four taking on Scottish teams. Clyde were invited to take part after a fine 6th place finish in the old First Division in 1959-60. 

 

 

 

 

The Bully Wee did play in Europe after all then, cos I'm counting that as official.

My list of Scottish teams that have never played in Europe (which obviously includes Accies) has just been reduced by 1. 

The French are great at inventing tournaments aren't they?

Could they maybe come up with an invitational cup for teams whose grounds are overlooked by at least 2 major food retailers?

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3 hours ago, Academically Deficient said:

The Bully Wee did play in Europe after all then, cos I'm counting that as official.

My list of Scottish teams that have never played in Europe (which obviously includes Accies) has just been reduced by 1. 

The French are great at inventing tournaments aren't they?

Could they maybe come up with an invitational cup for teams whose grounds are overlooked by at least 2 major food retailers?

Third Lanark played in the second year of this tournament. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Franco-Scottish_Friendship_Cup

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15 minutes ago, Eednud said:

Third Lanark played in the second year of this tournament. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Franco-Scottish_Friendship_Cup

 

Even teams which are over 50 years dead have got a better European pedigree than The Accies. Puts the tin lid on knowing Annan are going to pump us out the League Cup again.

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On 01/07/2020 at 07:46, SouthLanarkshireWhite said:

The former. We were deemed to be a Glasgow team and our place was given to Dundee IIRC.  It was downhill thereafter 😪

 

Clyde finished third, which is their highest ever league placing. Clyde did not qualify for Europe, however, because Rangers finished second and took the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup place.

Pos Team
[   ]
Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Celtic 34 26 6 2 111 33 +78 58
2 Rangers 34 24 7 3 92 31 +61 55
3 Clyde 34 20 6 8 64 48 +16 46
4 Aberdeen 34 17 8 9 72 38 +34 42
5 Hibernian 34 19 4 11 72 49 +23 42
6 Dundee 34 16 9 9 74 51 +23 41
7 Kilmarnock 34 16 8 10 59 46 +13 40
8 Dunfermline Athletic 34 14 10 10 72 52 +20 38
9 Dundee United 34 14 9 11 68 62 +6 37
10 Motherwell 34 10 11 13 59 60 −1 31
11 Hearts 34 11 8 15 39 48 −9 30
12 Partick Thistle 34 9 12 13 49 68 −19 30
13 Airdrieonians 34 11 6 17 41 53 −12 28
14 Falkirk 34 11 4 19 33 70 −37 26
15 St Johnstone 34 10 5 19 53 73 −20 25
16 Stirling Albion 34 5 9 20 31 85 −54 19
17 St Mirren (R) 34 4 7 23 25 81 −56 15
18 Ayr United (R) 34 1 7 26 20 86 −66 9
Source: RSSSF

So who did the SFA relegate with Thistle, Ayr?

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The clear up of Hampden commences after Celtic's 2-1 win over Rangers in the 1965 league cup final, can't get my head round the fact you used to be able to take a cargo of drink into the game with you when all ive ever known is police sting operations to catch supporters buses with a few cans of Strongbow. 

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It wasn't the amount of cans and bottles brought into these games, it was the threat of a thrown bottle or the thousands of those carrying the dangerous 'can opener' of the day.

US version but still the same shape

 

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3 hours ago, Flybhoy said:

The clear up of Hampden commences after Celtic's 2-1 win over Rangers in the 1965 league cup final, can't get my head round the fact you used to be able to take a cargo of drink into the game with you when all ive ever known is police sting operations to catch supporters buses with a few cans of Strongbow. 

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Not to mention the rivers of urine flowing down the steps.

Old Hampden was a scary place. You climbed up the steps to get out, being jostled all the way, squeezed through the apertures at the top, then steps going down to street level. Sounds ok, but when your feet aren't in contact with the ground it's not so good.

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12 hours ago, Bob in Denny said:

It wasn't the amount of cans and bottles brought into these games, it was the threat of a thrown bottle or the thousands of those carrying the dangerous 'can opener' of the day.

US version but still the same shape

 

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And you needed 2 holes, one to let the air in. I checked and the ring-pull was invented in the US in 1959, but it was a while till we got them on beer cans here, I’m guessing maybe up to 10 years. And the tab pulled right off, not like the modern ones.

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