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Just now, Bob Mahelp said:

 

Bates is a good player and there's loads of potential there. However, it is an absolute stick-on that shortly he'll go through a poor patch of form where people will start questioning if he should be playing or not.

What do we do then ? Rip him to pieces for being young and inexperienced and therefore prone to the occasional error ? Do we point the finger and talk about 'flaws to his game' ? Or accept that this happens to every single young, central defender worldwide, and encourage the guy to learn, stick with it, and hopefully become an international class defender that will be the mainstay of Scotland teams for years to come ?

McKenna (and Bates, and any other young central defenders we have) need time and encouragement. Not being f*ckin screamed at and dismissed any time they make an inevitable mistake.

 

You don't know the Rangers support then.

 

Bates struggled in friendly games in Florida and Follow Follow was in meltdown about him not being good enough. Forget him coming on against Celtic and playing well. Forget about him playing exceptionally well at Pittodrie when Rangers were down to 10 men and hanging on. Nah forget all the positives and lets castigate him over a couple of errors in his distribution in more or less meaningless friendlies.

He has to overcome the fact he was signed as an unkown youngster from Raith Rovers and is a young Scottish player.  There are certain Rangers supporters brought up signing players like Gazza, Laudrup, De Boers etc etc etc and cannot accept where we , and Scottish football in general, are. 

Bates is a young guy who could have a big future. He could go on and never really progress but we have to at least give these guys the chance. 

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There are not many 'Scottish' Uber drivers. 


Wheeyyyy he's a racist!! Lovely stuff to see one outed like that.

We were shite, we need that new centre mid to come in soon, and we need him to be good. With McLean and Christie playing, we need a proper defensive midfielder, which Shinnie really isn't. No balance in the middle, and toothless up top. Stewart's shite, GMS is so patchy, and Rooney is like being a man down when we don't have the majority of the ball.

At least McGinn looked sharp [emoji7]
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Comfortable enough last night, should have been way out of sight before their wee flourish at the end. Encouraging signs in how GM has us set up and our use of the ball. Think we look much more settled at the back and across the middle of the park. Few missed chances but at least we’re creating them. Fods assured when he needed to be.

The Loving Cup Ceremony is a marvellous old club tradition btw, think it’s great that the Directors of our opponents on the day continue to observe and participate in toasting the good health of Her Maj.

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7 minutes ago, BobWilliamson said:

You don't know the Rangers support then.

 

Bates struggled in friendly games in Florida and Follow Follow was in meltdown about him not being good enough. Forget him coming on against Celtic and playing well. Forget about him playing exceptionally well at Pittodrie when Rangers were down to 10 men and hanging on. Nah forget all the positives and lets castigate him over a couple of errors in his distribution in more or less meaningless friendlies.

He has to overcome the fact he was signed as an unkown youngster from Raith Rovers and is a young Scottish player.  There are certain Rangers supporters brought up signing players like Gazza, Laudrup, De Boers etc etc etc and cannot accept where we , and Scottish football in general, are. 

Bates is a young guy who could have a big future. He could go on and never really progress but we have to at least give these guys the chance. 

The Rangers support is not unique in that....the same will apply to any set of supporters in the country.

Whenever I've seen Bates I've been impressed....the guy looks like he belongs, and there's definite potential there for him to be a star. Equally, McKenna has the undoubted potential to be a top class central defender.

I don't know if in 10 years time we'll be looking at the Scotland team with Bates and McKenna in central defence. It would be nice to think so...

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25 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said:

Tbh mentally and tactically is utter garbage.  You can only judge the attributes you can see.

Of course you can see those attributes. It's all about tackling timing and positioning. Something Bates seems to have a natural knack for.

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Just now, Forest of Dean said:

Of course you can see those attributes. It's all about tackling timing and positioning. Something Bates seems to have a natural knack for.

You have no idea the tactical instructions given to either how the hell can you comment on how they carry them out and interpret them.  If you think their tackling timing and positioning varies that speaks to their tackling timing and positioning not mentally or tactically.

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We were shite, we need that new centre mid to come in soon, and we need him to be good. With McLean and Christie playing, we need a proper defensive midfielder, which Shinnie really isn't. No balance in the middle, and toothless up top. Stewart's shite, GMS is so patchy, and Rooney is like being a man down when we don't have the majority of the ball.


Definitely agree with this.

I really do think one good DM would almost transform the team - protection to the defence and would give McLean and Christie more licence to do what they do.

We also need the ball to stick in the final third in games like, which is why Rooney didn’t start in the game at Ibrox in May or the SC final. Not convinced May would help in that regard either. Stockley was a liability, but it would be folly not to have a target man option in the squad but we’re happy to have Maynard picking up a wage?

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4 minutes ago, anotherchance said:

 


Definitely agree with this.

I really do think one good DM would almost transform the team - protection to the defence and would give McLean and Christie more licence to do what they do.

We also need the ball to stick in the final third in games like, which is why Rooney didn’t start in the game at Ibrox in May or the SC final. Not convinced May would help in that regard either. Stockley was a liability, but it would be folly not to have a target man option in the squad but we’re happy to have Maynard picking up a wage?
 

 

A DM would allow you to play shimnie at lb too

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Although we also never won at Ibrox with him in the team, we still haven't replaced Jack. His discipline allowed Shinnie to play with more freedom, and that allowed him to be at his most effective. Neither McLean or Shinnie are 'natural' sitters, so a fragile defence is exposed and you have Shinnie charging around trying to do a bit of everything, and inevitably failing to do so. I suppose we just have to hope that Nwakali is good. 

Also, on the talk of Rooney, if Stockley had put in a performance like his last night, he would have been slaughtered. We basically need a better version of Stockley for these games, or at least a fully fit May. Rooney just isn't a good enough player outside the box, and he also doesn't look nearly as clinical in the box as he once did. 

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5 hours ago, Bairnardo said:

Aberdeen have become the thimg **** point at when they are claiming the banter years are over.

Thankfully they are not over, but I hope you are proud of yourselves, you bootlicking servile b*****ds!

 

4 hours ago, Bairnardo said:

That Rangers fans are not embarrassed by that stuff really delivers in a nutshell, all you neednto know about them.

 

3 hours ago, Bairnardo said:


 

 


LOL

 

 

3 hours ago, Bairnardo said:
3 hours ago, Randy Giles said:
Never seen someone so angry after a win as Bob is here. Can practically hear him smashing his head off of the keyboard.
Your team won m8. Enjoy it.

They dont care about winning games m8. He would obviously prefer to pick a fight ablut the cringy loving cup because that can loosely relate to staunchness and then bigotry. This is what he wants. People like Bob are simply not bothered about football reuslts.

 

Niknaks not bothered about sevco winning a game.

 

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4 minutes ago, RussellAnderson said:

 


Cant think of a single chance he had to be fair. Without that guarantee service, his movement doesn't create chances for himself.

 

O'Connor put one on a plate for him almost immediately after we went 2-0 down; Foderingham made a decent enough save, but Rooney should have buried it. It's all well and good to point the finger at others for not supplying him, but I can think of quite a few times over the past couple of seasons where the service has been reasonable and he has spurned good chances - the sort of opportunities that our support would have hammered a Stockley or a Maynard for missing.

The hard truth is that we can't afford passengers against better opposition, which is why McInnes has regularly favoured other - and not particularly good - strikers over him in Europe and in 'big' domestic fixtures. 

I'm certainly not saying Rooney is the only one to blame, mind. But we need a better, more dynamic forward to cut the mustard in this sort of game (hopefully May can get up to full fitness and provide this). 

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Looking at the teams last night and not even taking into account Rangers had many players out injured. There is not one Aberdeen player that would get anywhere near Rangers first XI. 

Instead of whining about shitting the bed and McInnes not being up to it when faced with better opposition you should maybe consider the fact that is staring you right in the face. Aberdeen simply do not have the players at the moment and it is to McInnes and the players credit he has the team where they are.

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16 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

And yet, they’re still joint second “(c) Rab B Nesbitt” in the league.

Says more about Sevco shitting the bed against teams way below them tbh.

Absolutely and i have already mentioned that. This Rangers team have been far too inconsistent and certain players have played well below par this season.

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