The OP Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 minute ago, chomp my root said: People also commit crimes, its a pickle alright. Seems a bit of a non sequitur given we already have a criminal justice system. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Just now, The OP said: Seems a bit of a non sequitur given we already have a criminal justice system. So no changes are required because we have a criminal justice system. No tweaks here and there ? That's not how its evolved so far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 So no changes are required because we have a criminal justice system. No tweaks here and there ? That's not how its evolved so far. Bring in murder as a punishment seems a bit extreme for a tweak. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 minute ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Bring in murder as a punishment seems a bit extreme for a tweak. Tomayto, tomato. I'm not advocating it for shop lifters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 19 minutes ago, chomp my root said: 1. Really ? For starters, a guilty confession backed up by DNA. 2. See 1. -------------------- 3. It ain't gonna happen anyway so don't get too wound up about it. A guilty confession like the Guildford 4? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Bobby Skidmarks said: A guilty confession like the Guildford 4? Pre DNA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy85 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Only in cases where people are really guilty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heedthebaa Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 There are plenty of numpties who apparently want to be “put me in a room with them for 5 minutes with a pair of pliers” I’d like to see this happen, preferably televised 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jimmy85 said: Only in cases where people are really guilty. Like kicking f**k out of their kids? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Just now, heedthebaa said: There are plenty of numpties who apparently want to be “put me in a room with them for 5 minutes with a pair of pliers” I’d like to see this happen, preferably televised I'm completely against torture/revenge. That doesn't strike me as very healthy but state legislated murder for those that are 'beyond the pale' should be an option. How many of those against it would want to be euthanised (not a real word) when they become a burden to their loved ones. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnHearts Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 For people who have been proven beyond any doubt to have committed heinous acts (e.g your Rose Wests, Ian Bradys) then capital punishment would be acceptable. Imagine how much cash has been spunked on these two animals alone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 The "guilty confessions" thing is interesting. It seems like a surprising number of people will eventually confess to crimes they had nothing to do with after a period of standard police interrogation techniques, and that's before you get into areas like people with low IQs. I seem to remember Netflix's series "The Confession Tapes" being worth a watch, but there's a lot of stuff out there about this phenomena. Sounds absolutely barking to think that people would confess to things like murder just because a copper said it'd all be OK, but it seemingly happens reasonably often. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFAANW Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Make criminals earn their freedom and put them in a Running Man type show imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackdaybob Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Overall no, I don't support it. That said there's a good few c***s on the planet we'd be no worse off should we get rid of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 2 hours ago, chomp my root said: I think that's the wrong justification myself, a society saying that someone who commits certain crimes isn't fit to be among us is where we are at the moment, that society then says they will pay a large amount of money to keep them in confinement until they die (we're not talking about many people admittedly). Just because you have a death penalty as a form of punishment doesn't mean that it would be getting dished out willy nilly, if there's doubt then there would still be life imprisonment. Here's a leftfield alternative, seeing as how as a nation we're comfortable with private companies being paid to look after our prisoners, why not 'outsource' it to other countries, I reckon The Philippines might be a cheaper option and willing to take our 'nawty' boys and girls. If there's doubt you shouldn't be convicted, never mind executed, 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: If there's doubt you shouldn't be convicted, never mind executed, Indeed. One of my (many) worries about post-Brexit Britain is that the nut jobs who got us in to this mess will press for policies like capital punishment and an even harsher prison regime. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy85 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 hour ago, LincolnHearts said: For people who have been proven beyond any doubt to have committed heinous acts (e.g your Rose Wests, Ian Bradys) then capital punishment would be acceptable. Imagine how much cash has been spunked on these two animals alone. It costs less to imprison for life than it does to administer the death penalty. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: If there's doubt you shouldn't be convicted, never mind executed, That's the way it works, although to be fair that's not what the 'debate' is about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackdaybob Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jimmy85 said: It costs less to imprison for life than it does to administer the death penalty. They're doing it wrong then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 minute ago, chomp my root said: That's the way it works, although to be fair that's not what the 'debate' is about. I've no idea what you mean. You said execution could only be used if there was no doubt. Are you saying that there is an option to jail someone for life if you think they might be guilty? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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