Granny Danger Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 4 hours ago, NotThePars said: What a bizarre post. It’s natural to be curious about your ancestors and it can be fun and interesting to find out what they did. Your post is bizarre, there’s nothing “natural” about. Some folk may be curious, others won’t be; personally I couldn’t give a flying f**k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Your post is bizarre, there’s nothing “natural” about. Some folk may be curious, others won’t be; personally I couldn’t give a flying f**k. I know you are but what am I 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Your post is bizarre, there’s nothing “natural” about. Some folk may be curious, others won’t be; personally I couldn’t give a flying f**k. Just about every culture in the history of mankind has displayed an interest in their ancestry, it's as natural as it gets. BTW my grandad was a cobbler too, the other one was a bank manager. Both fought at Gallipoli . Mildly curious about before but probably won't bother looking into it. Agree with you in the sense of people pretending they've got better genes because of what some ancestor did, I vaguely remember reading that if you go back 6 generations there's as much genetic variation between you and anyone on the planet as you and your ancestor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 It’s just as natural, imo, to take an interest in your ancestors as it is to be a nationalist or whatever. They’re related and influence each other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Family history research is the same as any historical research but you have somewhere to start and anchor the search and a bit more interest. It's social history and the history of working class people as opposed to politicians and the powerful. Granny attempting to play the edgelord and coming across as an absolute dullard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Why are folk so obsessed with their heritage? Does it make you a better person? My grandfather, who died before I was born, was a cobbler. That’s the extent of my knowledge of my heritage beyond my parents. Good Northamptonshire links perhaps then Granny to the Scottish parentage and lineage of decent ‘shoe makers’ that still exists in that part of the world! Similar to the Scots who made their stamp on the Staffordshire Potteries, skilled and creative them all. ETA, Surely it’s beneficial that your DNA is as mixed as possible for the whole of the Human Race to develop? Why would anyone think that their whole blood ancestry being confined too a few thousand square miles would be a good thing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: Good Northamptonshire links perhaps then Granny to the Scottish parentage and lineage of decent ‘shoe makers’ that still exists in that part of the world! Similar to the Scots who made their stamp on the Staffordshire Potteries, skilled and creative them all. ETA, Surely it’s beneficial that your DNA is as mixed as possible for the whole of the Human Race to develop? Why would anyone think that their whole blood ancestry being confined too a few thousand square miles would be a good thing? Well, it's literally impossible for a start. Those ancestry DNA things are so much bullshit. They are a modern version of reading tea leaves. https://www.theguardian.com/science/commentisfree/2015/may/24/business-genetic-ancestry-charlemagne-adam-rutherford Snake oil salesmen like Alasdair Moffat still make plenty money off selling books about it though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 21 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: Good Northamptonshire links perhaps then Granny to the Scottish parentage and lineage of decent ‘shoe makers’ that still exists in that part of the world! Similar to the Scots who made their stamp on the Staffordshire Potteries, skilled and creative them all. ETA, Surely it’s beneficial that your DNA is as mixed as possible for the whole of the Human Race to develop? Why would anyone think that their whole blood ancestry being confined too a few thousand square miles would be a good thing? ^^^genes came from Cork. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 ^^^genes came from Cork. Met a lovely wee girl from St Asaph in Corfu 1988, is that your neck of the woods WB? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 19 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: Met a lovely wee girl from St Asaph in Corfu 1988, is that your neck of the woods WB? Just down the road from there. Scouser? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Just down the road from there. Scouser? Nah, she worked at a hospital in Wrexham.Came up for the Rugby for the weekend, We won easily iirc[emoji6] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 15 hours ago, invergowrie arab said: Family history research is the same as any historical research but you have somewhere to start and anchor the search and a bit more interest. It's social history and the history of working class people as opposed to politicians and the powerful. Granny attempting to play the edgelord and coming across as an absolute dullard. I hope you find yourself. It’s obviously very important to you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 On 2018/02/17 at 13:24, Granny Danger said: Why are folk so obsessed with their heritage? Does it make you a better person? No idea where the better person angle could possibly enter into it. Finding out whether half-forgotten stories I'd heard as a sprog were actually true was a big part of it for me and I quickly got hooked and found myself wanting to find out even more once I started finding out things I had previously been clueless about. The stories I heard stretched back to around the early 1800s given the oldest ones tended to be based on what my grandparents had remembered being told by their grandparents and for the most part what I had been told was on the money, but there were a couple of surprises on the way and the following highlights... On 2018/02/17 at 15:04, welshbairn said: My sister paid a couple of hundred to get my mum and dad's genes tested. I was against it in case we found out something awkward... ...why family genealogy is not something to wander into, if you are not emotionally prepared to find out that at least some of what you were told by peope you were close to was a load of lies used by one generation to cover up a secret they didn't want the next generation to know about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said: No idea where the better person angle could possibly enter into it. Finding out whether half-forgotten stories I'd heard as a sprog were actually true was a big part of it for me and I quickly got hooked and found myself wanting to find out even more once I started finding out things I had previously been clueless about. The stories I heard stretched back to around the early 1800s given the oldest ones tended to be based on what my grandparents had remembered being told by their grandparents and for the most part what I had been told was on the money, but there were a couple of surprises on the way and the following highlights... ...why family genealogy is not something to wander into, if you are not emotionally prepared to find out that at least some of what you were told by peope you were close to was a load of lies used by one generation to cover up a secret they didn't want the next generation to know about. I'd be curious and not too worried for myself, just concerned how older relatives would taking finding out that their mother had been playing away and their dad wasn't really their dad. Or my dad finding out about my mother after they'd been married for 60 years. Edited February 18, 2018 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 On 2018/02/17 at 14:03, Jacksgranda said: ...I certainly wouldn't have researched back to the 1600s... I'd treat anything people claim to have researched further back than around 1800 in Scotland with a healthy degree of skepticism, because comprehensive birth, death, marriage and census records that are easy to follow and cross-reference only really got going in the 1850s and the old CoS parish records prior to that are not complete and often don't provide much information beyond names and a date on hatches, matches and dispatches. A lot of the old Irish civil records were destroyed in a fire in the 1920s during the civil war, so getting back much past 1850 or so reliably there is even more difficult. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/17/2018 at 17:53, welshbairn said: BTW my grandad was a cobbler too, the other one was a bank manager. Both fought at Gallipoli . Did he make an arse of mending his brogues? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Catch Michael O’Neil’s comments on the FAI? If they weren’t real who would post that and why? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 This I take it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 it's still up on the BBC? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43306958 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) I think they target those who have been registered with the GAA do they not? Bit of a nothing article really as I could imagine him being even more pissed off if they were asking every young player going to pledge their allegiance to them. Can’t really blame anyone for wanting to play for an actual proper country.* *Joking** **Not really joking. Edited March 7, 2018 by gannonball 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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