eez-eh Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, accies1874 said: 14 minutes ago, craigkillie said: I reckon you'd have about 3 players still available to play for us if you listened to every post about players who should never play for us again. I'm curious to know who the three would be as I'm pretty sure every player has got it at some point. If you go by social media we’d be fielding a team of Anthony Ralston, Scott Wright and Anthony Ralston. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, eez-eh said: Cooper was excellent in the middle against Denmark but has struggled badly the last twice he was asked to play on the left. We need a plan B for when Tierney isn’t fit. I'd be willing to give McKenna a try at LCB given that he plays it for his club, but really, I need to be convinced that the back three is a good idea at all in Tierney's absence. RCB - Souttar // Hendry // Porteous CB - Hanley // Cooper // Gallagher LCB - Tierney // McKenna // Halkett McTominay can go into midfield and fight for his place. Tbh it should be a 4-2-3-1 if one or both of Robertson and Tierney are unavailable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Hanley in Cooper were so, so poor last night. Hanley delivered a masterclass in how not to defend one-ones. They were also woefully exposed. Hanley has the problem of either being pretty solid or pretty catastrophic (he doesn't seem to know how to moderate his below par performances). I wouldn't rule either out in future - they are on a similar level to those who would replace them, but their weakness were blinding last night. What I struggle to understand is why go with the back three in cases when it actually just exposes them to more attacks (because there is less cover in midfield areas)? I feel like it just doubles down on the weak part of them team. Surely Clarke has to understand when the back 4 is more appropriate? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 I'd be willing to give McKenna a try at LCB given that he plays it for his club, but really, I need to be convinced that the back three is a good idea at all in Tierney's absence. RCB - Souttar // Hendry // Porteous CB - Hanley // Cooper // Gallagher LCB - Tierney // McKenna // Halkett McTominay can go into midfield and fight for his place. Tbh it should be a 4-2-3-1 if one or both of Robertson and Tierney are unavailable. Halkett would be even worse than Cooper in a wide centre-back position, not good on the ball at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Halkett would be even worse than Cooper in a wide centre-back position, not good on the ball at all. Good job I’ve got him 3rd deep on the depth chart then. He shouldn’t be getting anywhere near a competitive start for us and I’d hope that three at the back would be binned long before resorting to Halkett. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) I thought the way Grant Hanley covered both of our outside centre-backs last night was fantastic. I feel like I must have been watching a different match from the people who thought he had a bad game, really impressive and I can see why Steve Clarke likes him and why Norwich City fans love him. Edited June 3, 2022 by 2426255 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Hanley is a really good underrated player, he will be our first choice centre back for some time I think. Would be work in a flat 4 with Cooper? Unsure tbh, maybe something for us to try against Armenia. This season they were both Premier league captains, last season Hanley was in the championship team of the year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Satoshi said: Would be work in a flat 4 with Cooper? Unsure tbh, maybe something for us to try against Armenia. I would be a little disappointed if Steve Clarke didn't stick to the current system most of the rest of this camp. Without knowing - it seems logical to expect the general match plans (based around our current system) are already outlined in principle given that the turnaround time between games is quite short and doesn't give enough time to perform opposition analysis or match planning. I'm not expecting or desiring a change in system. I think we do need to make a few adaptations but the core of the system is something I think we can still work with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red23 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 11 hours ago, Satoshi said: Hanley is a really good underrated player, he will be our first choice centre back for some time I think. Would be work in a flat 4 with Cooper? Unsure tbh, maybe something for us to try against Armenia. This season they were both Premier league captains, last season Hanley was in the championship team of the year. May shock you to know Hanley is 31 in November. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 May shock you to know Hanley is 31 in November.That's not really shocking. He's at his peak just now and likely has another 3-4 years ahead of him for the national team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy86 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 On 02/06/2022 at 13:38, Donathan said: I'd be willing to give McKenna a try at LCB given that he plays it for his club, but really, I need to be convinced that the back three is a good idea at all in Tierney's absence. RCB - Souttar // Hendry // Porteous CB - Hanley // Cooper // Gallagher LCB - Tierney // McKenna // Halkett McTominay can go into midfield and fight for his place. Tbh it should be a 4-2-3-1 if one or both of Robertson and Tierney are unavailable. What about Graham from Dundee Utd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy86 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 RCB - Souttar // Hendry // Hyam CB - Rose // Porteous // Gallagher LCB - Graham // McKenna // Halkett 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Quote We’ve been successful with that shape so why would we change it? We’re comfortable in it and have worked on it a lot. Going into a big game and changing it wouldn’t have worked in our favour. When we did change, we created chances but were vulnerable on the counter-attack. Liam Cooper https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/international/why-would-we-change-it-scotland-defender-defiant-over-steve-clarkes-ukraine-tactics-3720066 I agree with this. Discussed in response to the set up versus Ukraine, but not necessarily with a view to Armenia. That said it is my personal view that a change in system versus Armenia isn't the solution. On 03/06/2022 at 14:03, 2426255 said: I would be a little disappointed if Steve Clarke didn't stick to the current system most of the rest of this camp. Without knowing - it seems logical to expect the general match plans (based around our current system) are already outlined in principle given that the turnaround time between games is quite short I'm not expecting or desiring a change in system. I think we do need to make a few adaptations but the core of the system is something I think we can still work with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Tunbridge Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 19 hours ago, Craigieboy86 said: RCB - Souttar // Hendry // Hyam CB - Rose // Porteous // Gallagher LCB - Graham // McKenna // Halkett If Coventry keep playing well Hyam could conceivably get a cap or 2 in the future. I think Gallaghers cycle in the squad has well and truly came to an end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Obviously tinted a bit here but I do see Graham being the natural successor to Tierney in time. He'll move either this summer or next when bigger clubs twig to his potential. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan8472 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 On 02/06/2022 at 12:02, accies1874 said: On 02/06/2022 at 11:54, craigkillie said: I reckon you'd have about 3 players still available to play for us if you listened to every post about players who should never play for us again. I'm curious to know who the three would be as I'm pretty sure every player has got it at some point On 02/06/2022 at 13:38, Donathan said: I'd be willing to give McKenna a try at LCB given that he plays it for his club, but really, I need to be convinced that the back three is a good idea at all in Tierney's absence. RCB - Souttar // Hendry // Porteous CB - Hanley // Cooper // Gallagher LCB - Tierney // McKenna // Halkett McTominay can go into midfield and fight for his place. Tbh it should be a 4-2-3-1 if one or both of Robertson and Tierney are unavailable. Ryan ? Sorry ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan8472 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 A.T.M. -. Tierney / McKenna Hanley , Cooper , Hendry. Souttar /. Hendry 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan8472 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 On 06/06/2022 at 18:04, Scotty Tunbridge said: If Coventry keep playing well Hyam could conceivably get a cap or 2 in the future. I think Gallaghers cycle in the squad has well and truly came to an end. CB looks mince ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky1990 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Thought McKenna looked good last night. Obviously not much actual defending to do, but he looked way more comfortable on the ball than I had seen previously. Good backup option to Tierney. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Looking at our centre-back options, we might a problem with depth at RCB and CCB. McTominay and Hanley are first choice but Souttar, Hendry and Cooper aren't playing for different reasons and others who've been in the squad recently aren't gonna be selected (Halkett injured, Porteous in horrendous form). Could have McKenna cover both LCB and CCB but it's looking a bit thin back there atm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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