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1 hour ago, Scuzz said:

Well done Haddington, they look great.

Interestingly... well, OK, mildly so!... this means we've now crossed a frontier where three-fifths of EOSL clubs have floodlights (24/40) - and across the southerly pyramid two-thirds (adding 15/16 in LL and 9/15 in SOSL).

That is a remarkable effort - and massive financial investment - from part-time clubs great 'n small.

Go back 25yrs and it was basically just Gala and Hawick, IIRC.


EDIT: Actually did think I'd a list in another thread, here it is:

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East of Scotland
1981     Hawick
1989     Gala
1994     Preston
1996     Edinburgh City (moved to Meadowbank)
1999     LTHV (moved to Saughton)
1990s   Heriot-Watt Uni
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2009     Spartans, Gretna 2008 (moved to Raydale)
2011?   Stirling Uni (now groundshare at Forthbank)
2013     Leith (moved to Meadowbank 3G; now Peffermill 3G)
2014     Easthouses
2015     Tynecastle (moved to groundshare at Saughton; now Meggetland)
2017     Kelty (entered league)
2018     Dunipace          Blackburn, Broxburn, Dalkeith, Dunbar, Hill of Beath, Linlithgow, Newtongrange, Penicuik, Sauchie (all entered league)
2019     Dundonald, Jeanfield, Bo'ness, Camelon
2020     Haddington, Tranent


Lowland
2013     East Kilbride (entered league)
2014     Edinburgh Uni          BSCG (entered league groundshare at Maryhill; now groundshare at Alloa)
2015     Cumbernauld (entered league)
2017     Dalbeattie
2019     Bonnyrigg, Civil Service Strollers


South of Scotland
1995     St Cuthbert
1999     Threave
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2013     Newton Stewart, Heston (moved to groundshare at QotS)          Lochar (entered league; now different ground)
2014     Mid Annandale          Edusport (entered league; now different ground)
2017     Bonnyton (entered league)


Anyone know for definite about the unis? Also confirm or fill in the blanks about when the 9 ex-Juniors first 'went electric':

Newtongrange (ground opened 1994?), Dunbar (ground opened 2001?), Sauchie (2003?), Broxburn (with 3G in 2009?), Dalkeith and Penicuik (council scheme like Easthouses? 2014?), Blackburn (with 3G in 2015?), Kelty (2015?), Hill of Beath (?) and Linlithgow (?)

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Anyone know for definite about the unis? Also confirm or fill in the blanks about when the 9 ex-Juniors first 'went electric':

Newtongrange (ground opened 1994?), Dunbar (ground opened 2001?), Sauchie (2003?), Broxburn (with 3G in 2009?), Dalkeith and Penicuik (council scheme like Easthouses? 2014?), Blackburn (with 3G in 2015?), Kelty (2015?), Hill of Beath (?) and Linlithgow (?)
Linlithgow Rose's first game under the lights at Prestonfield was on 20 September 2017, against a Scotland Juniors team.
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1 hour ago, HibeeJibee said:

Anyone know for definite about the unis? Also confirm or fill in the blanks about when the 9 ex-Juniors first 'went electric':

Newtongrange (ground opened 1994?), Dunbar (ground opened 2001?), Sauchie (2003?), Broxburn (with 3G in 2009?), Dalkeith and Penicuik (council scheme like Easthouses? 2014?), Blackburn (with 3G in 2015?), Kelty (2015?), Hill of Beath (?) and Linlithgow (?)

Newtongrange - July 1994 http://www.newtongrangestar.uwclub.net/stadium.htm

Dalkeith programme says 2013 https://issuu.com/dalkeiththistle/docs/16-04-30_broxburn_1

Penicuik also 2013 http://jamesdickscotland.tripod.com/pafc14/bonnyrigg.htm

Kelty pitch works 2015 but lights not operational until 2016 https://twitter.com/KeltyHeartsFC/status/700406168318038016

Broxburn say 2009 with 3G https://www.broxburnathletic.co.uk/albyn-park/

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Won't be long until a License (or actively trying to achieve one) may become a soft requirement for the EoS Premier and future WoS Premier.
I wouldn't think so, there has been nothing put out that would determine this might be the case, unless i have missed something.
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7 hours ago, ArabAuslander said:

Won't be long until a License (or actively trying to achieve one) may become a soft requirement for the EoS Premier and future WoS Premier.

I don't see there being a need for additional requirements like that within the EoSFL or WoSFL. It just creates another barrier to entry that's not needed.

The EoSFL already encourages its members to gain licencing and has a fund to support them doing so. That and seeing those around you getting licenced or doing ground improvements will be enough to see clubs pursue improvements themselves.

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10 hours ago, HibeeJibee said:

Interestingly... well, OK, mildly so!... this means we've now crossed a frontier where three-fifths of EOSL clubs have floodlights (24/40) - and across the southerly pyramid two-thirds (adding 15/16 in LL and 9/15 in SOSL).

That is a remarkable effort - and massive financial investment - from part-time clubs great 'n small.

Go back 25yrs and it was basically just Gala and Hawick, IIRC.


EDIT: Actually did think I'd a list in another thread, here it is:


Anyone know for definite about the unis? Also confirm or fill in the blanks about when the 9 ex-Juniors first 'went electric':

Newtongrange (ground opened 1994?), Dunbar (ground opened 2001?), Sauchie (2003?), Broxburn (with 3G in 2009?), Dalkeith and Penicuik (council scheme like Easthouses? 2014?), Blackburn (with 3G in 2015?), Kelty (2015?), Hill of Beath (?) and Linlithgow (?)

Blackburn had lights in 2013 when we moved "next door" to the new place, 3G came later.

An uninteresting fact, the actual floodlight poles at Blackburn have been there since the late 1970's/very early 80's when the grass pitch that was there before was turned into an "all weather" black ash pitch.  When redevelopment began in 2012, the black ash was turned into grass, and the lights (which were by then inoperative) refurbished.

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9 hours ago, ArabAuslander said:

Won't be long until a License (or actively trying to achieve one) may become a soft requirement for the EoS Premier and future WoS Premier.

The EoS (and therefore presumably the WoS) require clubs to be committed to the principle of Licencing.

It probably doesn't mean a lot in the scheme of things, but they encourage clubs to work towards gaining a Licence,  I think we're a while away from the EoS Premier requiring clubs to be Licenced.

That might be where a future LL2 comes in.

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1 hour ago, Burnie_man said:

The EoS (and therefore presumably the WoS) require clubs to be committed to the principle of Licencing.

It probably doesn't mean a lot in the scheme of things, but they encourage clubs to work towards gaining a Licence,  I think we're a while away from the EoS Premier requiring clubs to be Licenced.

That might be where a future LL2 comes in.

Ultimately (but not within the next few years), I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing a system where requirements gradually go up as you move up the tiers. Like tier 8 being more relaxed on ground rules than the EOS currently are to encourage ambitious amateurs to make the step up, tier 7 same as current EOS requirements, tier 6 need to be working towards a license (maybe fulfilling a slimmed down version of the license rules whilst working on the rest) and SPFL slightly up from LL/HL (like requiring seats for example).

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4 minutes ago, morley said:

Those flats behind must be loving the fact their elec bills will go down, as they don't need to use their own lights now just open the curtains in the evening. 

That's not flats , its a nursing home.

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2 minutes ago, half wit said:

That's not flats , its a nursing home.

Even worse. All the old punters who go to bed at 7pm. On the plus side atleast I guess many of their guests don't stay for long enough to complain. 

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