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3 hours ago, Burnie_man said:

It is pathetically bad, almost laughably so.

Unbelievable.

I wonder what will happen with EOS funds now as clubs must pay their annual fees. The SFA as a whole must be a profitable organisation as the money put in at the highest level as laughable also.

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One for HJ's records. I've been sorting out my programme collection during lockdown. A Hearts programme from April 1989 gives their reserve results: on Feb 20th 1989 Hearts reserves beat Broxburn 4-0 at Albyn Park in a match described as "(Flood open)". Presumably that's the opening match for the DEVIL'S ILLUMINATION at Albyn Park.

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1 minute ago, Burnieman said:

Mention on another thread that Thornton Hibs are putting up a fence to enclose the ground. I'd assume that's a condition of EoS entry.

It is. I believe all the Fife applicants have work to do on their grounds to meet the EOS criteria but they will be given 12 months to do so. 

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It is. I believe all the Fife applicants have work to do on their grounds to meet the EOS criteria but they will be given 12 months to do so. 
I dont recall Kirkcaldy's fence being upto much unless it's since changed.
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14 minutes ago, Burnieman said:
53 minutes ago, patriot1 said:
It is. I believe all the Fife applicants have work to do on their grounds to meet the EOS criteria but they will be given 12 months to do so. 

I dont recall Kirkcaldy's fence being upto much unless it's since changed.

I popped along to see the ground this week. They have a railing round the pitch and a five foot wire fence round the ground but I believe they have planning permission for a larger, more permanent fence. 

They have a new committee and I believe plans to improve their ground so hopefully they are on their way back after a few lean years. It's only about 5 years since I watched them beat Dundonald in a promotion decider in front of a big crowd so the potential is definitely there. 

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Might as well make this post a planning round-up:

Thornton - fence and lights, exactly the same as 2010 (no objections yet despite what @Che Dail mentioned in the other thread): https://planning.fife.gov.uk/online/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=Q5XVMAHFM6V00

Kirkcaldy & Dysart (approved last year) - think there's other plans for improvements around Denfield Park https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/839953/funding-to-open-up-hidden-gem-park-in-heart-of-kirkcaldy/

https://planning.fife.gov.uk/online/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=Q754RYHFMT700

2020 update on fencing: https://planning.fife.gov.uk/online/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=PUDLKMHFMJW00

Rosyth's new ground is awaiting construction of a LIDL: https://planning.fife.gov.uk/online/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=OQ3O9BHFLKB00 - though the changing rooms just look like two containers put together, might not meet EOS criteria

Dundonald's retrospective PP for their lights was approved (one objection was set aside): https://planning.fife.gov.uk/online/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=PUDLIZHFMJT00

Burntisland and St Andrews also have planning permission for floodlights.

Inverkeithing mentioned they were planning on adding cover.

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18 hours ago, Burnieman said:
19 hours ago, patriot1 said:
It is. I believe all the Fife applicants have work to do on their grounds to meet the EOS criteria but they will be given 12 months to do so. 

I dont recall Kirkcaldy's fence being upto much unless it's since changed.

Inverkeithing much the same. Enclosed, but fence is about 2.5 ft tall.

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43 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said:

iirc isn't there some limits to what Swifts can do with their ground due to it being used for the Highland Games?

Yes, the normal mesh fencing boundary around the track can't just be turned into a large view-blocking fence, as that's where the highland games spectators sit. (Well, unless they remove it for one week in August.)

So if the Swifts wanted to add a permanent fence it would need to be set so far back it would basically include the whole park (to allow all the highland games spectators, shows, stalls, vans to fit inside it).

At least the current fence allows them to take a gate, and if there's a decent crowd your view is going to be restricted standing 15m away if you don't pay to get in.

With Thornton you can just wander up to the railing around the pitch and watch the game for free.

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1 hour ago, Ginaro said:

Might as well make this post a planning round-up:

Thornton - fence and lights, exactly the same as 2010 (no objections yet despite what @Che Dail mentioned in the other thread): https://planning.fife.gov.uk/online/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=Q5XVMAHFM6V00

Kirkcaldy & Dysart (approved last year) - think there's other plans for improvements around Denfield Park https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/839953/funding-to-open-up-hidden-gem-park-in-heart-of-kirkcaldy/

https://planning.fife.gov.uk/online/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=Q754RYHFMT700

2020 update on fencing: https://planning.fife.gov.uk/online/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=PUDLKMHFMJW00

Rosyth's new ground is awaiting construction of a LIDL: https://planning.fife.gov.uk/online/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=OQ3O9BHFLKB00 - though the changing rooms just look like two containers put together, might not meet EOS criteria

Dundonald's retrospective PP for their lights was approved (one objection was set aside): https://planning.fife.gov.uk/online/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=PUDLIZHFMJT00

Burntisland and St Andrews also have planning permission for floodlights.

Inverkeithing mentioned they were planning on adding cover.

Good summary, cheers.

Altho have a look  at the public comments on the Thornton one and you'll see there is an objection from somebody on the Main St, presumably a householder.

There's also comment from Env Health looking for more info on light levels into neighbouring properties I.e. more detail is required.

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38 minutes ago, Che Dail said:

Good summary, cheers.

Altho have a look  at the public comments on the Thornton one and you'll see there is an objection from somebody on the Main St, presumably a householder.

There's also comment from Env Health looking for more info on light levels into neighbouring properties I.e. more detail is required.

Oh right, didn't think to check that section as they are normally posted in amongst the documents. Though the name and address of the person makes me wonder what the objection is, as their location wouldn't be affected by the lights. The lighting document doesn't actually show the proper details - I'm sure the old planning application did but now those documents can't be accessed!

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8 minutes ago, Ginaro said:

Oh right, didn't think to check that section as they are normally posted in amongst the documents. Though the name and address of the person makes me wonder what the objection is, as their location wouldn't be affected by the lights. The lighting document doesn't actually show the proper details - I'm sure the old planning application did but now those documents can't be accessed!

It could be any number of reasons. 

It is currently an open public park, the fence will change that - so maybe people are concerned about access.

A potentially significant change since the 2010 consent is that the land is now protected by "Fields in Trust" (since 2015). 

There is no consultee response from them on the current application to date.

I'd be concerned about that, maybe the neighbour is too.

http://www.fieldsintrust.org/FieldSite/Thornton-Memorial-Park

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