hollerman Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Fair enough, but can anyone answer my original question about what action, if any, can be taken against a secretary who fails to abide by a democratically passed motion.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troon Portland Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 To be fair, perhaps he is waiting for the outcome of this weekend's re-scheduled Scottish Junior Cup games to see which teams make it to round 4. Had the games gone ahead as scheduled last week he would already have that knowledge and been able to publish fixtures which wouldn't need tweaking. We'll see what arrives in the early part of next week, if not before. I understand that, but don’t accept it.The rules are very clear, it says no later than 30th November. Perhaps if lines of communication were clearer he could have said something similar to what you have, or if every other deadline had been adhered to then fine, but that hasn’t happened so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 The man does what he wants ; when he wants and to who he wants , as for the club's they bottled the chance of change end of ; no point at all in complaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, theshed said: The man does what he wants ; when he wants and to who he wants , as for the club's they bottled the chance of change end of ; no point at all in complaining Only very marginally over half of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest svejk Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Surprised no-one mentions the Management Committee populated by his pals. They have the ability to change things but it's makeup never seems to change.There is more than one man to blame imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I'm genuinely surprised to hear this. Said no c**t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beenzon-Toste Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Surprised no-one mentions the Management Committee populated by his pals. They have the ability to change things but it's makeup never seems to change.There is more than one man to blame imho. That's assuming that they have the bravery to question his authority. But I'm sure it's still 'his' Region and they'll do as they're told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 To be fair, perhaps he is waiting for the outcome of this weekend's re-scheduled Scottish Junior Cup games to see which teams make it to round 4. Had the games gone ahead as scheduled last week he would already have that knowledge and been able to publish fixtures which wouldn't need tweaking. We'll see what arrives in the early part of next week, if not before. See if he is waiting on that, why not come out and say?? A quick message on Twitter, the website etc updating folk on the reasons, he might not get half the shit he normally gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-german exile Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 See if he is waiting on that, why not come out and say?? A quick message on Twitter, the website etc updating folk on the reasons, he might not get half the shit he normally gets. He probably did send a message, but the bottle hasn't washed ashore yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 He probably did send a message, but the bottle hasn't washed ashore yet. [emoji23][emoji23] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wile E Coyote Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I get why people are upset but to be honest advance fixtures are not worth the paper they are written on at this time of the year with delayed/rescheduled Scottish Cup games, bad weather etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo87 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Embaressing! Reading on here, Most junior fans / teams seriously consider themselves superior to the lowland league and you can't even get a few weeks worth of fixtures. Sooner you move over the better. Amateur leagues are better organised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viewparker Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 36 minutes ago, geo87 said: Embaressing! Reading on here, Most junior fans / teams seriously consider themselves superior to the lowland league and you can't even get a few weeks worth of fixtures. Sooner you move over the better. Amateur leagues are better organised. In this day and age with the advent of social media giving information to your customer base is easy and quickly done. Fixtures man is a pen and paper addict in the age of the keyboard. A simple computer programme that takes account of all the variables can be bought for the money raised at a match at Newlandsfield. I have been going to see the juniors from the days of Dennistoun Waverley and I would hate to see it's demise due to intransigence on the part of an out of touch hierarchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrellburn Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, Bishoptonbankie said: They already have this software, he refuses to use it. "Refuses" or "is unable" to use it? The latter is probably more likely, but either way another person should be doing the job. With the current weather problems we are experiencing I wouldn't bet against some third round Scottish ties still being outstanding going into January. What good would a fixture list for league matches be then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieb Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 9 minutes ago, garrellburn said: "Refuses" or "is unable" to use it? The latter is probably more likely, but either way another person should be doing the job. With the current weather problems we are experiencing I wouldn't bet against some third round Scottish ties still being outstanding going into January. What good would a fixture list for league matches be then? That's because the timing of the Junior Cup R2 & R3 is completely wrong. West region incompetence exacerbated by SJFA incompetence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrellburn Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 1 minute ago, archieb said: That's because the timing of the Junior Cup R2 & R3 is completely wrong. West region incompetence exacerbated by SJFA incompetence What is your suggested schedule for Scottish cup games then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennie Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 45 minutes ago, garrellburn said: What is your suggested schedule for Scottish cup games then? ALL Scottish clubs should get together and table a motion to INSTRUCT the SJFA Management Committee to draw the first AND second round draws at the AGM of the Association. This advance notice of fixtures would assist the 3 regions in preparation of fixtures. Rounds 1, 2, 3 and 4 should be played at the end of August, September, October and November. This would mean that the ties in the problem month of November would be HALVED and thereby reducing the impact that cancellations have on the fixture lists. December and January could be free from Scottish Ties and other rounds played as normal. The management should look at the ties in Round 2 and pick out a tie that has a suitable venue where the 3rd round draw could be made probably around 5:30 – 6:00. Once the results are in. Again this advance notification would be of great benefit to the 3 regional secretaries in sorting out fixtures instead of having to wait until the week after the replays take place. The same should happen with the other rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrellburn Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 5 hours ago, Kennie said: ALL Scottish clubs should get together and table a motion to INSTRUCT the SJFA Management Committee to draw the first AND second round draws at the AGM of the Association. It only needs one club to table a motion for discussion at the AGM and then ALL clubs could vote on it. This advance notice of fixtures would assist the 3 regions in preparation of fixtures. Rounds 1, 2, 3 and 4 should be played at the end of August, September, October and November. More than half the clubs would then have no further interest in the cup by the end of September and I don't see that going down well with them. This would mean that the ties in the problem month of November would be HALVED and thereby reducing the impact that cancellations have on the fixture lists. December and January could be free from Scottish Ties and other rounds played as normal. The management should look at the ties in Round 2 and pick out a tie that has a suitable venue where the 3rd round draw could be made probably around 5:30 – 6:00. Once the results are in. Again this advance notification would be of great benefit to the 3 regional secretaries in sorting out fixtures instead of having to wait until the week after the replays take place. The same should happen with the other rounds. Taking the draw back to the clubs is what should be done but the sponsor wouldn't like it. Wait a minute, what sponsor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Be nice to know the fixtures for next Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lang Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Ur at Blantyre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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