Thereisalight.. Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 I wonder how much its cost to keep this beast for years? Between that and having his identity protected. The James Bulger killing was truly horrific and astounding that 10 year olds could be so calculated. Throw in the numerous child porn convictions. There is no hope for him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 50 minutes ago, oaksoft said: None of these people should ever be released and frankly I couldn't give a shit what age they were when they committed a crime like that. Just for clarity, you’re calling for whole life tarriffs for 10 year olds? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 minute ago, oaksoft said: For things like premeditated murder, yes. absolutely. It's hardly pre-pubescent pranks we are talking about here. Those two kids are just rotten and unsaveable. Fair enough, I think that’s fucking mental but up to you. Out of interest, how do you explain Robert Thomson having (as far as I know) avoided reoffending since his release? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 28 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Fair enough, I think that’s fucking mental but up to you. Out of interest, how do you explain Robert Thomson having (as far as I know) avoided reoffending since his release? Tbf it seems like Thomson has far more protection. There's a worldwide ban on trying to identify him, and his name is red listed on search engines so the authorities can trace people trying to find him. Some paper reported he'd move abroad and is now married. Venables getting released after the initial sentence was probably fine considering his age etc., but the offences since shouldve removed all protection on him as he's now no longer a child offender. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 40 minutes ago, oaksoft said: For things like premeditated murder, yes. absolutely. It's hardly pre-pubescent pranks we are talking about here. Those two kids are just rotten and unsaveable. Another way of phrasing it is to say that I am in favour of lifelong protection of the general public from murdering animals. I don't want anyone else's family to risk becoming a victim of these two. Victims over perpetrators is a useful motto. More of us should remember that IMO. Stands to reason mate 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 The woke left would happily release all murderers and fill the jails with people who say they are English. But will they sleep with the murderers? The hypocrisy makes me sick 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Hang everyone who says "Merry Christmas". Would you invite someone to stay in your spare room just to have them saying "Merry Christmas" to your daughter every morning? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Thereisalight.. said: I wonder how much its cost to keep this beast for years? How much does it cost to kill him? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMDP Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Always good to see P&B do reasoned discussion when it comes to a sensitive topic. Tbf, @oaksofts porno script alone would have me getting the pitchforks out if he ever moved next door. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Tbf it seems like Thomson has far more protection. There's a worldwide ban on trying to identify him, and his name is red listed on search engines so the authorities can trace people trying to find him. Some paper reported he'd move abroad and is now married. Venables getting released after the initial sentence was probably fine considering his age etc., but the offences since shouldve removed all protection on him as he's now no longer a child offender. I'm not sure he has, tbh. He's managed to keep himself out of bother and the same stipulations would surely also apply to Venables (whose subsequent offences almost certainly place him in greater danger). Although seemingly the ringleader at the time, Thomson hasn't reoffended since release and is apparently in a relationship with a man that knows his real identity. The Bulgers tried to keep him in prison on the grounds he was an undiagnosed psychopath. Venables on the other hand was deemed low risk when he was released and has twice been convicted for child porn offences amongst a couple of other convictions as well. He's also now on his second or third new identity because he told people who he was and it seems that one was compromised by one of those paedo hunter groups. I doubt he can ever be rehabilitated and will almost certainly end up back in prison again when he's released. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Is Venables serving a life sentence? If so, he could be kept in prison if he's still deemed a risk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 25 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Are you expecting me to be grateful that one of these two animals has managed to get through a few years without killing someone else's kid? The man should never have been released. He was and remains a danger to other people. Let him live next door to you if that makes you happy. No, I’m just wondering how him not reoffending fits in with the whole “rotten and unsaveable” thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 42 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Are you expecting me to be grateful that one of these two animals has managed to get through a few years without killing someone else's kid? The man should never have been released. He was and remains a danger to other people. Let him live next door to you if that makes you happy. I'd like to see your working on why, despite not committing any other offences, which is what reoffending refers to, not just the exact same offense, you regard Robert Thomson as a danger to other people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, oaksoft said: You are forgetting the word "yet". He's not apparently re-offended "yet". The man is a sadistic child murderer and will always be a danger. If you are prepared to give a sadistic murderer the benefit of the doubt and risk him killing someone else's family member then that's your opinion I suppose. This sort of discussion always triggers defensive reactions from a few types of people: 1) Those who have never been the victim of a crime, have no idea what impact this sort of thing can cause and don't have to live amongst society's scumbags anyway. 2) People who are convicted criminals and believe they deserve a "second chance". 3) People who have convicted criminals in their close social circle. Personally, I just don't care about criminals rights at all. I wouldn't ever have employed one, wouldn't have tolerated one being in my social circle and I certainly wouldn't wan to live anywhere near one. If I was king, all convicted criminals would be sent to one of our plentiful remote islands and left there - permanently banned from re-joining the rest of society. Nobody deserves to have to tolerate animals like that in their day to day lives. If this is trolling it's pretty good tbh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Been a while since we've seen peak oaksoft. Go off, king. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 25 minutes ago, oaksoft said: This sort of discussion always triggers defensive reactions from a few types of people: 1) Those who have never been the victim of a crime, have no idea what impact this sort of thing can cause and don't have to live amongst society's scumbags anyway. 2) People who are convicted criminals and believe they deserve a "second chance". 3) People who have convicted criminals in their close social circle. I'm none of those three, and I think your posts so far have been fucking mental. Entertaining though, so I very much encourage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, oaksoft said: You are forgetting the word "yet". He's not apparently re-offended "yet". The man is a sadistic child murderer and will always be a danger. If you are prepared to give a sadistic murderer the benefit of the doubt and risk him killing someone else's family member then that's your opinion I suppose. This sort of discussion always triggers defensive reactions from a few types of people: 1) Those who have never been the victim of a crime, have no idea what impact this sort of thing can cause and don't have to live amongst society's scumbags anyway. 2) People who are convicted criminals and believe they deserve a "second chance". 3) People who have convicted criminals in their close social circle. Personally, I just don't care about criminals rights at all. I wouldn't ever have employed one, wouldn't have tolerated one being in my social circle and I certainly wouldn't wan to live anywhere near one. If I was king, all convicted criminals would be sent to one of our plentiful remote islands and left there - permanently banned from re-joining the rest of society. Nobody deserves to have to tolerate animals like that in their day to day lives. All criminals? No difference for any level of offending? You'd treat child killers the same as people who get someone caught smoking a bit of green? That's a wee bit fucking mental Eta. I would almost guarantee that you are also guilty of some criminal act. Most people are. Going to be a busy island prison. Edited October 7, 2021 by Suspect Device 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: All criminals? No difference for any level of offending? You'd treat child killers the same as people who get someone caught smoking a bit of green? That's a wee bit fucking mental Eta. I would almost guarantee that you are also guilty of some criminal act. Most people are. Going to be a busy island prison. We'll need to turn Australia back to its original colonial purpose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 hour ago, oaksoft said: Personally, I just don't care about criminals rights at all. I wouldn't ever have employed one, wouldn't have tolerated one being in my social circle and I certainly wouldn't wan to live anywhere near one. How could you know if you live near someone done for speeding or even employed them when it's off your books. Timpsons have a huge workforce or recovered offenders to their credit and it seems to work wonders for them, shame not everyone is as tolerant as you ably demonstrate. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, 101 said: How could you know if you live near someone done for speeding or even employed them when it's off your books. Timpsons have a huge workforce or recovered offenders to their credit and it seems to work wonders for them, shame not everyone is as tolerant as you ably demonstrate. It makes a lot of sense to employ people with a point to prove and if you have a good interview process you will find the folk who need help to get their life back on track and discard the people who are past help. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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