Robert James Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 NCA Statement corrected (apologies) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I was able to read the first one allright. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 On 27/04/2020 at 14:30, welshbairn said: What happens if they win the NCL when the pyramid is up and running? I've no problem with colt teams playing in regional cups, but not in the league system. Still no information about the date of the (virtual) NCL AGM ? Alness has confirmed its re-entry into the NCL for 2020/21 (if the season is played ?). Does this mean that the other 3 applicants have also been notified by the NCL ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samsonite Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 The NCL been called as Null & Void for this season, not a good look when they are wanting to join the Pyramid system but as with higher leagues clubs obviously voting with there own interest at heart. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, Samsonite said: The NCL been called as Null & Void for this season, not a good look when they are wanting to join the Pyramid system but as with higher leagues clubs obviously voting with there own interest at heart. The SoSFL declared null and void, they're actually in the pyramid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 47 minutes ago, Samsonite said: The NCL been called as Null & Void for this season, not a good look when they are wanting to join the Pyramid system but as with higher leagues clubs obviously voting with there own interest at heart. There's no promotion from the NCL. There's no Scottish Cup place for the winner. It's not like there's a fortune in prize money to be won. Whether the null and void, postpone, call it as it is or do PPG is entirely up to the member clubs and doesn't harm them in any way or make them look good/bad one way or another. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Quote The league management committee of the North Caledonian FA met on the evening of Sunday May 17th to address the specific matter of determining the outcome of the 2019-20 season, specifically the incomplete league competition and North Caledonian Cup. The following motions for an outcome were proposed and seconded for consideration by means of a vote held by member clubs in attendance. A - The league competition shall be cancelled and as such the league games played shall be declared void. The league trophy shall have no winner for 2019-20. In addition, the North Caledonian Cup will be cancelled. B - The league competition shall be brought to conclusion and league placings shall be decided based on a Points Per Game (PPG) average calculated using games played to date. The club with the highest PPG average shall be awarded the league trophy for 2019. By way of a majority, member clubs in attendance voted in favour of option A and the motion was thereafter confirmed. League secretary, Sandy Stephen said, “Firstly, during this difficult and worrying time for everyone, we all hope that everyone connected to the North Caledonian Football Association and beyond are keeping save and well.” “With regards to the incomplete League season and North Caledonian Cup, we recognise that there is no outcome that will satisfy every club. As an association we have worked hard over the past month or so to reach a decision to conclude the season that reflects the will of our member clubs by a clear majority, which we now have” “To not end the season on the pitch is naturally disappointing, but every league in Scotland is facing this same problem at the moment. For the North Caledonian FA, the fact that there were so many possible winners of the league championship speaks volumes for the competitive strength of our league at present. Our league continues to grow, and it will continue to go from strength to strength when the new season comes around.” Clubs shall reconvene in the coming weeks for a pre-AGM meeting to prepare for the 2020-21 campaign. http://www.northcaleyfa.co.uk/news_article.php?id=109&fbclid=IwAR02h-1T2EpGzX5pfMxe0Nv88Kmc1Z7-4uwD_aBsgkLeB91uI79NtptnoWU Edited May 18, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) On 18/05/2020 at 10:21, AsimButtHitsASix said: There's no promotion from the NCL. There's no Scottish Cup place for the winner. It's not like there's a fortune in prize money to be won. Whether the null and void, postpone, call it as it is or do PPG is entirely up to the member clubs and doesn't harm them in any way or make them look good/bad one way or another. Update Four additional clubs have applied to join the NCL for 2020/21 season Edited May 21, 2020 by Robert James 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Robert James said: Update Four additional clubs have applied to join the NCL for 2020/21 season You mean on top of the four mentioned a month or so ago? Edited May 21, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 10 hours ago, welshbairn said: You mean on top of the four mentioned a month or so ago? The same 4 clubs as before, but not everyone on P&B is as knowledgeable as you regarding the HFL & NCL. However, there have been some enquiries from a couple of other clubs who normally play in the 'local' summer leagues, but who may not be able to do so this year, if the lock-down continues. Have you heard any rumours ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Robert James said: The same 4 clubs as before, but not everyone on P&B is as knowledgeable as you regarding the HFL & NCL. However, there have been some enquiries from a couple of other clubs who normally play in the 'local' summer leagues, but who may not be able to do so this year, if the lock-down continues. Have you heard any rumours ? I know a lot of the NCL players see their priority as with their summer league teams so some NCL teams struggle for numbers at the beginning and end of the season. Not sure about the rules but I think most of summer league teams are officially amateur, so they might struggle going back if they spend a season in the NCL? Some of the rules are very strict. Haven't heard any rumours, but sounds plausible, doubt the standard's much different between the bottom end of the NCL and the better summer league teams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclizine Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: I know a lot of the NCL players see their priority as with their summer league teams so some NCL teams struggle for numbers at the beginning and end of the season. Not sure about the rules but I think most of summer league teams are officially amateur, so they might struggle going back if they spend a season in the NCL? Some of the rules are very strict. Haven't heard any rumours, but sounds plausible, doubt the standard's much different between the bottom end of the NCL and the better summer league teams. There used to be quite stringent rules on playing in Amateur FA competitions if you'd been on a "professional" contract like in the HFL or NCL, hence why historically the Welfare FA had a large grip on the north. I can't remember the exact rules, but as far as I remember, there was a cooling off period and a games limit. Someone like @Spyro or @NiallFH might remember better. The forms are much simpler now and the local leagues all SAFA. As you say, most NCL players have summer amateur clubs they turn out for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: I know a lot of the NCL players see their priority as with their summer league teams so some NCL teams struggle for numbers at the beginning and end of the season. Not sure about the rules but I think most of summer league teams are officially amateur, so they might struggle going back if they spend a season in the NCL? Some of the rules are very strict. Haven't heard any rumours, but sounds plausible, doubt the standard's much different between the bottom end of the NCL and the better summer league teams. No doubt it will all become clear at the North Caley AGM whenever it is held. (?). I won't be surprised if one extra (new) club submits an application, before the NCL's AGM. A Pre-AGM - what's that all about ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Cyclizine said: There used to be quite stringent rules on playing in Amateur FA competitions if you'd been on a "professional" contract like in the HFL or NCL, hence why historically the Welfare FA had a large grip on the north. I can't remember the exact rules, but as far as I remember, there was a cooling off period and a games limit. Someone like @Spyro or @NiallFH might remember better. The forms are much simpler now and the local leagues all SAFA. As you say, most NCL players have summer amateur clubs they turn out for. I can’t remember the exact details (it was over 10 years when I played up there) but limited games does ring a bell, possibly with more relaxed rules between these leagues than others. It has probably all changed between then and now though. The under 20’s (or 19’s?!) I played with had a different set of rules so my memory is a bit hazy on who was allowed to do what 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Any speculation out there about which Inverness Amateurs may even have a suitable ground/changing rooms for the NCL? Loch Ness have already declared their intentions. Are there any possibles from elsewhere, in addition to the Inverness Amateurs? Black Isle United (Culbokie) have a good (from Streetview) ground. Inverness & Dist Amat Lg 2020 Prem Avoch Contin Ferrybache ICM Electrical IRN Security Loch Ness Maryburgh NMM Sams Nth Kessock(?) Tomatin Div.1 Ardersier Balloan Black Rock Rovers (Evanton) Charlestelona Culloden Blacksmiths Hill Rovers (Farr) Innes CI Merkinch Muir of Ord Rovers Div.2 Black Isle United (Culbokie) Conon Bridge Drakies PDG Fortrose & Rosemarkie Union Gairloch/Aultbea United Highland Aviation NHS Highland Norbord Cleanco Tomatin United Uncle Bob's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclizine Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 The NCL doesn't really have ground requirements as such, other than suitable changing rooms and ability to rope off the pitch. Pretty much all the amateur grounds, probably with the exception of the ones who play on the Bught, given the shared pavilion, would likely be okay. Pavilion Park, North Kessock and Farr have been used for NCL football in the last decade or so. Coronation Park is an ex-venue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Would love to see Avoch have a go. Their ground with a decent crowd around it is something to behold, can get a cracking wee atmosphere with not too many people 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclizine Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Spyro said: Would love to see Avoch have a go. Their ground with a decent crowd around it is something to behold, can get a cracking wee atmosphere with not too many people A predecessor of the current Avoch amateur team (the Rovers) have certainly been NCL members in the past. I agree Coronation Park is a great venue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) On 23/05/2020 at 11:03, Dev said: Any speculation out there about which Inverness Amateurs may even have a suitable ground/changing rooms for the NCL? Loch Ness have already declared their intentions. Are there any possibles from elsewhere, in addition to the Inverness Amateurs? Black Isle United (Culbokie) have a good (from Streetview) ground. Inverness & Dist Amat Lg 2020 Prem Avoch Contin Ferrybache ICM Electrical IRN Security Loch Ness Maryburgh NMM Sams Nth Kessock(?) Tomatin Div.1 Ardersier Balloan Black Rock Rovers (Evanton) Charlestelona Culloden Blacksmiths Hill Rovers (Farr) Innes CI Merkinch Muir of Ord Rovers Div.2 Black Isle United (Culbokie) Conon Bridge Drakies PDG Fortrose & Rosemarkie Union Gairloch/Aultbea United Highland Aviation NHS Highland Norbord Cleanco Tomatin United Uncle Bob's In addition to Loch Ness, at least one of the above Inverness & District League clubs has also expressed an interest in joining the NCL next season. Not sure if the club concerned has submitted an application. No official closing date for NCL applications has been announced, as far as I am aware, but I suspect that any such applications would have to be submitted in advance of the North Caley AGM (or pre-AGM ?). Both Loch Ness and Scourie (NW Sutherland) have referred to their intention to join the NCL on their own websites. Loch Ness have confirmed that the club wants to retain its (summer) amateur XI, in addition to joining the seniors. Edited May 25, 2020 by Robert James post sent in error before completed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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