Bobby Skidmarks Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 The CK was regularly beaten for not reading all of his Daily Mail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/a-dad-said-he-banished-his-3-year-old-as-punishment-police-may-have-just-found-her-body/ar-AAtVlBt?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=HPCOMMDHP15 Who puts their naughty step up an alley. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) On 10/22/2017 at 12:58, invergowrie arab said: The financial penalties and criminal charges you are talking about are penalties for non payment of fines issued by a legal authority, same as if you don't pay your parking ticket, fly tipping fine etc They are not specifically linked to the school absence issue. When parents enrol a child in school (they don't have to) they are then legally responsible and obliged to ensure the child attends school. It's not a state imposition it's a contract. The supreme court case ended up in the supreme court as the family took it there. FWIW I think it's entirely sensible that local authorities have the the power to refer non payment of fines to a criminal court in general but, as is the case in Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland, don't think it is suitable in this circumstance. If it helps you sleep better at night since June 2016 I have taken my niece out of school for trips away on three occasions for a cumulative total of 7 days and not a word has been said. These are all weasely rewordings and sneaky attempted re-contextualising - the state has in position legal ramifications for parents taking full guardianship for a child when the parents decide its necessary. If there's no penalty (there is), none of this should be in place in the first place. If I decide I want to take my kids out for the afternoon, or campervanning around Europe for 6 months, this should have f**k all to do with the state or or whatever relevant governing bodies. No prior notice necessary, no headmaster permission necessary, no questions asked. I do realise that having grown up in a situation where the state gets (is expected to get) it's paws into almost everything, it's a big shift in mindset to realise that this is not the only way and is actually pretty creepily fucked up. Edited October 23, 2017 by banana 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 On 10/22/2017 at 14:01, The Chlamydia Kid said: It also tells us absolute nothing about the impact of smacking on kids and I’ve not seen anyone present any specific examples of the detrimental impact thus far. Read up on domestic violence (i.e. physical violence in the home) being generational. That is, hit kids tend to hit their kids/partners, who also tend to hit their kids/partners, and so on. I realise violence is on a continuum from light tapping of a kid's hand once in a blue moon to regular beatings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 So adults actually smack there kids ?They need locked up, for the safety of there children Serious post or piss take? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 16 minutes ago, banana said: Read up on domestic violence (i.e. physical violence in the home) being generational. That is, hit kids tend to hit their kids/partners, who also tend to hit their kids/partners, and so on. I realise violence is on a continuum from light tapping of a kid's hand once in a blue moon to regular beatings. Phew, my folks only hit me from time to time and not each other, I'd hate to wake up with a bread knife in my chest for giving the missus a 'love tap' after rolling in pished. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Read up on domestic violence (i.e. physical violence in the home) being generational. That is, hit kids tend to hit their kids/partners, who also tend to hit their kids/partners, and so on. There's absolutely no way you could accurately measure that, as they'll only actually be looking at people who have committed a domestic violence crime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, 1320Lichtie said: There's absolutely no way you could accurately measure that, as they'll only actually be looking at people who have committed a domestic violence crime. No measuring is perfect, but it's been studied plenty in various ways, and there are meta-studies on top. It's been 3 or 4 years since I read the papers, watched the presentations, so do your own digging - generational violence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy85 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Violence breeds violence. Hardly a shocking revelation tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, banana said: Read up on domestic violence (i.e. physical violence in the home) being generational. That is, hit kids tend to hit their kids/partners, who also tend to hit their kids/partners, and so on. I realise violence is on a continuum from light tapping of a kid's hand once in a blue moon to regular beatings. Are we now talking about battering kids or are we still discussing a wean getting a skelped arse? Edited October 23, 2017 by ayrmad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, ayrmad said: Are we now talking about battering kids or are we still discussing a wean getting a skelped arse? You know how this works, its all about the outrage, toss domestic violence in and we get 'house' (seems fair, others have called house). Gotta love the angry rhetoric to reinvigorate the 'debate'...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennboy1978 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, ayrmad said: Are we now talking about battering kids or are we still discussing a wean getting a skelped arse? Both as one apparently... to all except the folk posting from jail cells/torture dungeons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Have to agree. Really struggling to understand what some people actually think smacking involves, it's hardly some traumatic scarring experience. Reading what some people are saying about it is embarrassing. Like I have said I personally wouldn't choose to do it if I ever had kids, but I have absolutely no hard feelings towards my mum and dad for doing it to me. It's hardly a big deal. It's a wee smack on the bottom ffs. People aren't beating up their children. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 8 hours ago, Jimmy85 said: Violence breeds violence. Hardly a shocking revelation tbh. Paraphrasing the bible always wins a debate imo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I wish this topic had never come up. Im gonna have to start smacking my child for the next 4 years. I want to give her the best start in life. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/6926823/Smacked-children-more-successful-later-in-life-study-finds.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, G_Man1985 said: Why would a smack solve anything? Devil's advocate, threat of violence is a big part of how the the world works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Depressing how many people still think violence against a defenceless child is OK in 2017. How many? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Just now, G_Man1985 said: How many adults have smacked their child? Still a considerable majority, IIRC from surveys. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 24 minutes ago, G_Man1985 said: I wonder how many of them would smack their child in public? Not many I'd take a guess at. Just because somethings are kept private doesn't necessarily mean they are wrong. I prefer not to change a nappy in full view of the passing world. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 30 minutes ago, G_Man1985 said: How many adults have smacked their child? Seems to be quite a few on here. I count about 4 or 5 on here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.