Monkey Tennis Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Tynierose said: Good point, he is the epitome of a moron. It's genuinely staggering that someone so ill informed, so incapable of analysis and so inarticulate, can have carved out a decades long media career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 42 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: It's genuinely staggering that someone so ill informed, so incapable of analysis and so inarticulate, can have carved out a decades long media career. He is perfect for his target audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Just now, Sergeant Wilson said: He is perfect for his target audience. Yes, I suppose that's the alarming bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Derek Johnstone's argument against them on Radio Clyde last night was that he played on the very first one in senior football at QPR and it was terrible. That was the mid 70'sMcDiarmid Park's first training pitch was horrendous if you fell or slid on it. Basically like a scouring pad. Great for passing football though. That must have been back in the very late 80's that I played on it.What they have now is a cracking training ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Monkey socks Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 See the ground staff are on the money installing the booby traps which are easily hidden on an artificial surface. Not so easy, I believe, on a Parkhead pitch which has a disease of some sort. Safety first at all times I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Wonder how many 'grass' pitches get random, unannounced spot checks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 59 minutes ago, Loonytoons said: McDiarmid Park's first training pitch was horrendous if you fell or slid on it. Basically like a scouring pad. Great for passing football though. That must have been back in the very late 80's that I played on it. What they have now is a cracking training ground. Saints don't train on the astro now, unless weather forces it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Just now, LiviLion said: Wonder how many 'grass' pitches get random, unannounced spot checks It's a disgrace, really. They'll happily let games on grass be called off 10 minutes before kick off, yet do this for plastic. The SFA, SPFL, and clubs forcing this should maybe focus their attention on the falling crowds instead of this witch hunt. I don't think they understand that a public campaign decrying a quarter of the pitches in the top flight as being unable to have a "good game of football" on it is going to impact on the more casual, idiotic, fan and whether they'll attend games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 The astro itself, followed by the grade/quality whatever have presumably been approved by the SFA and the SPFL for installation. Since this is the first "random check" I can ever think of hearing about, one of two things is happening... These checks have been happening all alomg as part of quality assurance measures stipulated upon approval of these pitches for use in the league (unlikely) OR.... The authorities are once again cow-towing to ill informed, media driven bullshit and are belittling and undermining clubs who acted with complete approval in installing their pitches to try and look as if they are doing something (what it is they are trying to look like they are doing.... who fucking knows)What they should be doing is telling the idiot players who are firing petitions about the place that they have their right to an opinion, but unless they can present full and comprehensive evidence that these pitches are demonstrably the actual root cause of actual physical harm, they can politely f**k off. Clubs are being mugged off here and the SPFL are pandering to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Saints don't train on the astro now, unless weather forces it.Did not know that. Fair few teams do though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Loonytoons said: Did not know that. Fair few teams do though. They used too, tbf. We got a grass training pitch built beside the stadium by the council, in exchange for letting them build a road that encroaches on St Johnstones land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennysmassiveego Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Tommie Hoban seriously injured at Pittodrie , slipped on a piece of Astro turf I heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackislekillie Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Shame for the lad as he looks a good player. Slippys statements sound more petulant with every reading, especially if you imagine them in a whining Scouse accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 On 16/02/2019 at 00:09, pandarilla said: There's a certain pedantic nature to posts on here defending plastic pitches, which is arguably as annoying as the views of ex-players who can't form a coherent argument against them. I think there's a serious debate to be had, and you have to balance the financing of Scottish football against the quality of the product on show. I do not like plastic pitches, but they are only one of numerous factors involved in a game of football.The bounce is weird, and I certainly miss the good old fashioned slide tackles on a wet pitch (which quite clearly endanger players as much as any plastic pitch but undoubtedly add a level of enjoyment for me). The bounce is weird? On what artificial pitches? What areas? And compared to what grass pitch? Also can you give an example or two? I've seen 'weird' bounces on loads of pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 29 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: The bounce is weird? On what artificial pitches? What areas? And compared to what grass pitch? Also can you give an example or two? I've seen 'weird' bounces on loads of pitches. Most of the 'weird' bounces are because of the spin on the ball and nothing to do with the surface. Only actually a problem when it's on plastic though, that's the only time it's because of the surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebowski Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Most of the 'weird' bounces are because of the spin on the ball and nothing to do with the surface. Only actually a problem when it's on plastic though, that's the only time it's because of the surface.Gtaf. You honestly think that the ball bounces the same on astro as grass? It really does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Just now, Lebowski said: 5 minutes ago, LiviLion said: Most of the 'weird' bounces are because of the spin on the ball and nothing to do with the surface. Only actually a problem when it's on plastic though, that's the only time it's because of the surface. Gtaf. You honestly think that the ball bounces the same on astro as grass? It really does not. What grass pitch(es)? What artificial pitch(es)? And, always, any examples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Lebowski said: 7 minutes ago, LiviLion said: Most of the 'weird' bounces are because of the spin on the ball and nothing to do with the surface. Only actually a problem when it's on plastic though, that's the only time it's because of the surface. Gtaf. You honestly think that the ball bounces the same on astro as grass? It really does not. You honestly think the ball bounces the exact same on every single grass pitch? It really does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Saw this on another thread Class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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