wastecoatwilly Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 A red and yellow passport would look nice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 A red and yellow passport would look nice ^^^partick fan without the bus fare 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Puigdemont arrested crossing Germany. Also this.. Quote The arrest warrant was reactivated on Friday, as were similar warrants for the other fugitives, Lluís Puig, Meritxell Serret and Toni Comín, who are all in Belgium, and Clara Ponsati, currently in Scotland, where she is teaching at the University of St Andrews. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/25/catalan-leader-carles-puigdemont-held-by-german-police 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Madrid based government cracking down on dissenters? Nothing new there then. People being persecuted for expressing their desire for independence is ominous and worrying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Madrid based government cracking down on dissenters? Nothing new there then. People being persecuted for expressing their desire for independence is ominous and worrying. This could end with many dead in a supposedly modem society. Spain = c***s. Time Barcelona FC downed tools. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, HTG said: This could end with many dead in a supposedly modem society. Spain = c***s. Time Barcelona FC downed tools. Not sure if the Barca remark is facetious but many would love them to do that. Yeah, the frightening thing is this is a modern Western European democracy in 2018. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Wonder if the Scottish Government have any influence over this? Quote Police in Scotland say the lawyer of a fugitive former member of Catalonia's government has been in touch with the force, and is preparing for the politician to be handed over to authorities. A European warrant was issued Friday for Clara Ponsati, Catalonia's former education chief, who fled from Spain along with former regional president Carles Puigdemont and other Catalan leaders in October after a failed independence bid. She has since renounced her seat in the Catalan parliament. In the past few weeks, Ponsati had moved from Belgium to Scotland and returned to her work at the University of St. Andrews, where she is a professor of economics. Scottish police have tweeted that they had been making enquiries to trace Ponsati, whose lawyer has now contacted the force so she can hand herself in. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-5541661/The-Latest-Fugitive-ex-Catalan-leader-held-German-police.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow-sheep Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Apparently extradition is a reserved matter and the Scottish Govt are barred from intervening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, glasgow-sheep said: Apparently extradition is a reserved matter and the Scottish Govt are barred from intervening. https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/977928823076544522 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Not sure if the Barca remark is facetious but many would love them to do that. Yeah, the frightening thing is this is a modern Western European democracy in 2018. Not facetious at all. They've already been made to play a game behind closed doors. They are a massive institution and could easily put a massive spotlight on the Catalan situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, HTG said: Not facetious at all. They've already been made to play a game behind closed doors. They are a massive institution and could easily put a massive spotlight on the Catalan situation. I agree but certain institutions would happily see them in a situation where they were subject to a point deduction or worse. If jailing elected politicians for up to 30 years is not going to invoke the necessary reaction I can’t see anything connected to football having a greater impact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) The last time Madrid dropped the extradition warrant was because there is no crime labelled Sedition or Rebellion exits in Belgian law, so if they were returned to Spain they could only be charged with Misuse of Public Funds which carries a much lower penalty (I wonder why ). I think the same applies in Scots Law, maybe @Ad Lib could inform us. Edited March 25, 2018 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, welshbairn said: https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/977928823076544522 Some of the replies to those tweets would make you weep for Scotland and her future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossbill Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Lluis Companys and other members of his separatist Catalonian party. Extradited to the Fascist Spanish regime by Nazi Germany in 1940 and executed. I'm really starting to get worried where this is heading. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Crossbill said: Lluis Companys and other members of his separatist Catalonian party. Extradited to the Fascist Spanish regime by Nazi Germany in 1940 and executed. I'm really starting to get worried where this is heading. Madrid are making a good argument for the bullet being better than the ballot. Or the only option. All they had to do was ignore an illegal and widely boycotted independence poll. I suspect their motive is to distract from corruption allegations rather than upholding the rule of law and keeping Spain together. Old article but it's still going on. https://www.politico.eu/article/spains-cash-corruption-and-construction-trial-caso-gurtel/ Edited March 25, 2018 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: Madrid are making a good argument for the bullet being better than the ballot. Or the only option. All they had to do was ignore an illegal and widely boycotted independence poll. I suspect their motive is to distract from corruption allegations rather than upholding the rule of law and keeping Spain together. Old article but it's still going on. https://www.politico.eu/article/spains-cash-corruption-and-construction-trial-caso-gurtel/ It is a very valid point. If you deny folk change by stripping them of democratic means people will resort to other actions. It was an issue that plagued the Basque Country for years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 The PNV (Basque National Party) have demanded the release of all Political Prisoners and have refused to continue to negotiate the Spanish Budget supposedly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 It's really heartbreaking what's going on in Catalonia. I really hope they prevail eventually and we should all support them. I usually go to Valencia on holiday every year, think it will be Barcelona from now on, don't want to give a penny to fascists. We go there to watch Barca anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Dave Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Anyone with a better clue than me able to suggest what Rajoy being replaced by socialists may mean for catalonia? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44327573?ns_linkname=news_central&ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy has been forced out of office by a no-confidence vote in parliament It's done, who knows what it means. The socialists are being supported by the Catalonians so I can't see them being very happy at the idea of granting independence and then losing that support permanently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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