superbigal Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Don't think Any team relegated from lowland in next couple of years will go anywhere apart from down the leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie n beans Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Was it not last season that Brora stated they didn't want to go into the SPFL2, ? What about the other highland teams ? if its the same case then the LL league winners should go straight into the league play off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 29 minutes ago, pie n beans said: Was it not last season that Brora stated they didn't want to go into the SPFL2, ? What about the other highland teams ? if its the same case then the LL league winners should go straight into the league play off. Cove have long wanted to join the SFL/SPFL. I think most other HFL aren't very interested, though that doesn't necessarily mean they wouldn't try if the chance came up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Vale Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 36 minutes ago, pie n beans said: Was it not last season that Brora stated they didn't want to go into the SPFL2, ? What about the other highland teams ? if its the same case then the LL league winners should go straight into the league play off. No doubt Brora at the time were not really interested. But even they have come round to the pyramid. Cove are mad keen for spfl football with their new ground ready by the end of June. Formartine,Inverurie,Turriff are mad keen on the spfl too. Aye a few arent so keen but most clubs in the shfl now are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surely not! Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Was it not last season that Brora stated they didn't want to go into the SPFL2, ? What about the other highland teams ? if its the same case then the LL league winners should go straight into the league play off. Always been chat about it due to various squad members being away on holiday/stag doos/anniversary dinners, but the guys in the park have put in the shift. However, the 11 in the pitch on Saturday for spartans were the first group of players whose performance suggests they don’t want to go up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afca32 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 If there is one non-league club (not talking about the squad of players) you'd expect to be desperate for SPFL status it would be Spartans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 If there is one non-league club (not talking about the squad of players) you'd expect to be desperate for SPFL status it would be Spartans. The nearly men of the SFL/SPFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 Cove's elimination of Spartans tonight means Vale must beat Cumbernauld tomorrow, to keep their fate in their own hands at Dalbeattie on Saturday, versus having to place their reliance on Cowdenbeath over the next fortnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuDawg Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Had hoped to see the LL increase their numbers to 18 in line with the HL. The whole pyramid structure is definitely the way forward but would like to see merit being the primary driver rather than licensing (there are clubs in the SPFL who cannot possibly be licensed). Next season should see Kelty Hearts and Lothian Thistle HV in the LL for starters, they would bring additional competition to the LL. Further downstream will see the Juniors making their way to the LL too which can only improve the quality of level 5 in the pyramid in the central belt. The quality of the non league divisions is critical and is much needed to shake up the SPFL status quo with promotion/relegation being automatic without the need for play offs. Progress has been made, we just need the footballing authorities to move this forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Run Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 2 hours ago, StuDawg said: Had hoped to see the LL increase their numbers to 18 in line with the HL. The whole pyramid structure is definitely the way forward but would like to see merit being the primary driver rather than licensing (there are clubs in the SPFL who cannot possibly be licensed). Next season should see Kelty Hearts and Lothian Thistle HV in the LL for starters, they would bring additional competition to the LL. Further downstream will see the Juniors making their way to the LL too which can only improve the quality of level 5 in the pyramid in the central belt. The quality of the non league divisions is critical and is much needed to shake up the SPFL status quo with promotion/relegation being automatic without the need for play offs. Progress has been made, we just need the footballing authorities to move this forward. Disagree, 18 is too many IMO - look at the struggle the Highland League had to finish the season and produce a champion! Even had to change the playoff dates. I like 16 teams, with the end goal being a separate Lowland West and Lowland East if there is enough competition. Vale of Leithen now confirmed to finish 15th after an injury-time Colts equaliser made the final score 4-4. Will be relegated to the EoS if Cove overcome Cowdenbeath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfassemblyshire Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Disagree, 18 is too many IMO - look at the struggle the Highland League had to finish the season and produce a champion! Even had to change the playoff dates. I like 16 teams, with the end goal being a separate Lowland West and Lowland East if there is enough competition. Vale of Leithen now confirmed to finish 15th after an injury-time Colts equaliser made the final score 4-4. Will be relegated to the EoS if Cove overcome Cowdenbeath. If we stopped the absolute farce of 4 play-off games it could happen. Relegate 10th and HL vs LL over 2 legs for the spot. Would give and extra 2 weeks on each season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Run Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 minute ago, selfassemblyshire said: If we stopped the absolute farce of 4 play-off games it could happen. Relegate 10th and HL vs LL over 2 legs for the spot. Would give and extra 2 weeks on each season! If only the turkeys would vote for Christmas! Would love to see this happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mantis Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 3 hours ago, StuDawg said: Had hoped to see the LL increase their numbers to 18 in line with the HL. The whole pyramid structure is definitely the way forward but would like to see merit being the primary driver rather than licensing (there are clubs in the SPFL who cannot possibly be licensed). Next season should see Kelty Hearts and Lothian Thistle HV in the LL for starters, they would bring additional competition to the LL. Further downstream will see the Juniors making their way to the LL too which can only improve the quality of level 5 in the pyramid in the central belt. The quality of the non league divisions is critical and is much needed to shake up the SPFL status quo with promotion/relegation being automatic without the need for play offs. Progress has been made, we just need the footballing authorities to move this forward. Never happening. It's the other way round - SFA wanted the HFL to reduce to 16 teams. Which SPFL clubs cannot possibly be licensed and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 3 hours ago, StuDawg said: Had hoped to see the LL increase their numbers to 18 in line with the HL. The whole pyramid structure is definitely the way forward but would like to see merit being the primary driver rather than licensing (there are clubs in the SPFL who cannot possibly be licensed). Next season should see Kelty Hearts and Lothian Thistle HV in the LL for starters, they would bring additional competition to the LL. Further downstream will see the Juniors making their way to the LL too which can only improve the quality of level 5 in the pyramid in the central belt. 16 is used by the LL, East Juniors and from next season the West Juniors - if anything the HL should go to 16. Here's the current list of licensed clubs: https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/3371/club-licensing-current-update-march-2018.pdf - which clubs cannot possibly be licensed? And here's the licensing manual: https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/2881/scottish-fa-club-licensing-manual-2018.pdf - if you want to see the criteria clubs are judged on. There has to be minimum standards - now that the top 5 tiers are full of licensed clubs, merit is the primary driver to the SPFL, and with the top clubs in tier 6 being licensed the same is happening to the LL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 Vale of Leithen 4-4 Cumbernauld Colts Fate can be a cruel mistress. Vale felt they should have been 3pts better off than they are - or had the opportunity to take 3pts - as a consequence of Whitehill and "Team-sheet-gate"; it could have seen them still able to finish 14th after tonight's result. Nevertheless a win tonight would have given the same opportunity and they led 3-0 and 4-1 at different times during the game. It wasn't to be... the lead surrendered in stoppage time. Assuming, if we may, that they aren't going to beat Dalbeattie by 9 goals at Islecroft, they place their LL survival in Cowdenbeath's hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mantis Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 10 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Vale felt they should have been 3pts better off than they are - or had the opportunity to take 3pts - as a consequence of Whitehill and "Team-sheet-gate"; it could have seen them still able to finish 14th after tonight's result. HJ, whatever the Vale felt, it’s still in the “if your auntie had baws” category. A team sheet error is a fine. The LL messed up. Just as well WW have somebody like Andrew Renwick who knows the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, The Mantis said: HJ, whatever the Vale felt, it’s still in the “if your auntie had baws” category. A team sheet error is a fine. The LL messed up. Just as well WW have somebody like Andrew Renwick who knows the rules. And not forgetting the -34 goal difference. The 2nd worse by a considerable margin. That's why they're 2nd bottom. Good luck to them though, don't want them dropping down. Innerleithen is a fine wee place to visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 17 hours ago, StuDawg said: Had hoped to see the LL increase their numbers to 18 in line with the HL. The whole pyramid structure is definitely the way forward but would like to see merit being the primary driver rather than licensing (there are clubs in the SPFL who cannot possibly be licensed). Next season should see Kelty Hearts and Lothian Thistle HV in the LL for starters, they would bring additional competition to the LL. Further downstream will see the Juniors making their way to the LL too which can only improve the quality of level 5 in the pyramid in the central belt. The quality of the non league divisions is critical and is much needed to shake up the SPFL status quo with promotion/relegation being automatic without the need for play offs. Progress has been made, we just need the footballing authorities to move this forward. LTHV can't obtain promotion to the LL for next season unless there was a retrospective change in the league's rules. Very unlikely. Kelty, whilst strong favourites to beat Threave in the play-off, should not take this for granted. The 2 clubs met in the South Regional Cup on 13th January, when the result was : Kelty 2 Threave 2 with Threave winning 5-4 on penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 5 hours ago, Robert James said: LTHV can't obtain promotion to the LL for next season unless there was a retrospective change in the league's rules. Very unlikely. Kelty, whilst strong favourites to beat Threave in the play-off, should not take this for granted. The 2 clubs met in the South Regional Cup on 13th January, when the result was : Kelty 2 Threave 2 with Threave winning 5-4 on penalties. Ye forgot to mention Kelty played wi 10 players as they got a man sent off very early. I'd be very surprised if they are not comfortable winners by at least 5 or 6 over the 2 legs given Threave s history of LL football as well?? Defo not getting excited by this fixture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanley Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 19 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Vale of Leithen 4-4 Cumbernauld Colts Fate can be a cruel mistress. Vale felt they should have been 3pts better off than they are - or had the opportunity to take 3pts - as a consequence of Whitehill and "Team-sheet-gate"; it could have seen them still able to finish 14th after tonight's result. Nevertheless a win tonight would have given the same opportunity and they led 3-0 and 4-1 at different times during the game. It wasn't to be... the lead surrendered in stoppage time. Assuming, if we may, that they aren't going to beat Dalbeattie by 9 goals at Islecroft, they place their LL survival in Cowdenbeath's hands. Any reason for the decline in football in the borders? LL: 5th-Selkirk (exception to the rule here but very weak in the LL until this season) 13th-Gala Fairydean Rovers 15th-Vale of Leithen (potentially relegated) 16th-Hawick Royal Albert (relegated) EoS: 6th-Peebles Rovers 10th-Coldstream 11th-Eyemouth United 13th-Tweedmouth Rangers (would be borders if they were Scottish) I can't see there being any borders sides left in the Lowland League in a few years time and many of them will end up out of tier six a few years after that depending on how quickly the juniors integrate. Added to that, Duns and Kelso have both gone from the EoS in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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