sjc Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 On Friday, August 25, 2017 at 03:44, Bairnardo said: Has anyone mentioned that SweeperDee turned down his Nat King based on politics..... That was more to do with "fanny fright" than any Political leanings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Shades75 said: I don't know if I should be ashamed to admit it or not, I might be intolerant, but I've a number of people that I now avoid because I really can't stick their views on Brexit/immigration etc.... Depends if they are shouty, angry lecturing types or if they can engage in reasoned debate about the subject in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd String Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I have been a Labour Party member for 39 years, voted for them in every ballot since I was elegible. Utter loathe the Tories. But, my two best mates are arch Conservatives and members of that party. We have healthy adult debates and I immensely enjoy their company. One of them has always been there when I have had some dark times. That's what a friendship is, not about their politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I have been a Labour Party member for 39 years, voted for them in every ballot since I was elegible. Utter loathe the Tories. But, my two best mates are arch Conservatives and members of that party. We have healthy adult debates and I immensely enjoy their company. One of them has always been there when I have had some dark times. That's what a friendship is, not about their politics. Good to hear that your friendships rise above party politics, but as a long term labour member, how do you feel about the alliances/coalitions the two parties have formed in Aberdeen etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd String Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Good to hear that your friendships rise above party politics, but as a long term labour member, how do you feel about the alliances/coalitions the two parties have formed in Aberdeen etc? Remember that those Labour councillors were thrown out of the party for doing this, rightly so, and are now independent councillors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Remember that those Labour councillors were thrown out of the party for doing this, rightly so, and are now independent councillors. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 8 hours ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd String said: Remember that those Labour councillors were thrown out of the party for doing this, rightly so, and are now independent councillors. Funny that it was reported up here that the Tory, Labour and 3 Independent councillors had agreed to change the leader's position to a co-leader to allow the Tories to share the position with the Labour councillors. The council's own website also has them listed as Scottish Labour Party, see here. They may be officially suspended from the party but they are Labour and still call themselves such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Funny that it was reported up here that the Tory, Labour and 3 Independent councillors had agreed to change the leader's position to a co-leader to allow the Tories to share the position with the Labour councillors. The council's own website also has them listed as Scottish Labour Party, see here. They may be officially suspended from the party but they are Labour and still call themselves such. They call themselves "Aberdeen Labour " as opposed to "Scottish Labour"They're independent from the party but not from each other You and highland Magyar should probably call this a draw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: They call themselves "Aberdeen Labour " as opposed to "Scottish Labour" They're independent from the party but not from each other You and highland Magyar should probably call this a draw What is this "Scottish Labour" that you mention? I have looked up the registered political parties and can find no mention of such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 What is this "Scottish Labour" that you mention? I have looked up the registered political parties and can find no mention of such. [emoji6] You want to look under "Branch Office". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I am sure there are Tories who are empathetic on a personal level with friends and relations whilst having a completely different attitude towards the wider population. "What, you're personally affected by the bedroom tax, here I'll help you, just f**k all these other folk I don't personally know". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chlamydia Kid Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Seeing as my pals are all Dundee lads in mid 30s it probably won't be surprising that there is not one of us is not an independence supporting, pro EU social democraticy type world view. The only britnat Tory I know is my grandad. What can you do? Find new pals that aren't a bunch of utterly predictable bores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chlamydia Kid Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I am sure there are Tories who are empathetic on a personal level with friends and relations whilst having a completely different attitude towards the wider population. "What, you're personally affected by the bedroom tax, here I'll help you, just f**k all these other folk I don't personally know". I am sure there are Nationalists who are empathetic on a personal level with friends and relations outwith Scotland whilst having a completely different attitude towards the wider population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 5 hours ago, The Chlamydia Kid said: I am sure there are Nationalists who are empathetic on a personal level with friends and relations outwith Scotland whilst having a completely different attitude towards the wider population. You believe that one characteristic of Scottish nationalism is to be actively hostile and uncaring to people from other countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I am sure there are Nationalists who are empathetic on a personal level with friends and relations outwith Scotland whilst having a completely different attitude towards the wider population. What does this even mean?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I am sure there are Nationalists who are empathetic on a personal level with friends and relations outwith Scotland whilst having a completely different attitude towards the wider population. This the myth that Unionists like to portray, want independence,therefor must dislike the English/other nationalities. It appears that the idea of running your own country,while getting along with the people of other countries is alien to them.Strange bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 9 hours ago, jakedee said: This the myth that Unionists like to portray, want independence,therefor must dislike the English/other nationalities. It appears that the idea of running your own country,while getting along with the people of other countries is alien to them.Strange bunch. Yet many of the same will balk at the idea that they must dislike European nationals in order to "want UK sovereignty back" from the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 19 minutes ago, Antlion said: Yet many of the same will balk at the idea that they must dislike European nationals in order to "want UK sovereignty back" from the EU. Equating EU membership and Scottish Independence is a ridiculous comparison. "We" have "UK soveteignty", we don't need to reclaim it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 35 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Equating EU membership and Scottish Independence is a ridiculous comparison. "We" have "UK soveteignty", we don't need to reclaim it. Tell that to Gove, Fox, Johnson, Farage, et alia. Each of these creatures has waxed lyrical about the need for the UK to reclaim sovereignty from the EU, and to be self-governing. However, they appear to simultaneously think that being a self-governing, sovereign state is a bad thing. Apparently being part of a semi-federal supranational union is not acceptable for a country like the UK, which deserves as much autonomy as possible, but being incorporated into a single state with its neighbors is absolutely crucial for Scotland, because it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Just now, Antlion said: Tell that to Gove, Fox, Johnson, Farage, et alia. Each of these creatures has waxed lyrical about the need for the UK to reclaim sovereignty from the EU, and to be self-governing. However, they appear to simultaneously think that being a self-governing, sovereign state is a bad thing. Apparently being part of a semi-federal supranational union is not acceptable for a country like the UK, which deserves as much autonomy as possible, but being incorporated into a single state with its neighbors is absolutely crucial for Scotland, because it doesn't. None of these folk see Scotland as a country. They are not alone, apparently Corbyn doesn't think it is practical for Scotland to have it's own legal system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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