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27 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

Someone get bennett in the thread to tell you the "ongoing situation" doesn't exist and the BBC are more than welcome to turn up and do the thing they exist to do

Just send Chic every game .. Problem solved ..Live  games forever and ever..

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7 hours ago, The Master said:

Incidentally, Wednesday night will be interesting.

If Premier Sports don't show the replay (and they might not be able to do thanks to the MOU that prevents domestic games up against the Champions League) then this will be the first time since the start of the "ongoing situation" where a Scottish Cup game at Ibrox isn't shown live. Yet the BBC are contractually-obliged to provide footage of all non-live games.

Will they break with their principles and send someone along, or spend money sub-contracting to the usual company that cover league games for Sevco TV, whose footage is then used for Sportscene?

Not sure if I’m being stupid here, but no idea what you’re on about. Every league game at Ibrox that isn’t live, every one bar Celtic, is shown on Sportscene. So what difference does it make that it’s a Cup game?

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1 hour ago, kingjoey said:

Not sure if I’m being stupid here, but no idea what you’re on about. Every league game at Ibrox that isn’t live, every one bar Celtic, is shown on Sportscene. So what difference does it make that it’s a Cup game?

Celtic and Sevco use their own contracted production company for their home league games. This is why you don’t see full time pictures on Sportscene Results, and why whoever is in the studio on Sportsound to update on games at Ibrox is ostensibly “monitoring social media feeds” rather than watching the live feed come in. 

Cup games are different. 

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2 hours ago, kingjoey said:

Not sure if I’m being stupid here, but no idea what you’re on about. Every league game at Ibrox that isn’t live, every one bar Celtic, is shown on Sportscene. So what difference does it make that it’s a Cup game?

We give the BBC access to RTV footage, shouldn't change for a cup game.

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8 hours ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

Someone get bennett in the thread to tell you the "ongoing situation" doesn't exist and the BBC are more than welcome to turn up and do the thing they exist to do

The ongoing situation where the BBC is banned from Ibrox you mean?

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11 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

"Half hearted attempt for a penalty" in reference to Defoe's massive dive in the second half. 

No, he's a massive cheating c**t who wasn't touched in the slightest and who should have been booked (and punched in his cheating puss).

 

Think it was McLean's commentary which said that there were "half hearted claims for a penalty". No mention that it was dive. Not covered by Sportscene. It was a shocker of a dive and going by his last few games it seems it seems that this is one of Defoe's attributes. 

Against St Mirren, Michael Stewart tried to argue that Defoe "anticipated" the contact that never came and therefore it wasn't a dive. That's a nonsense argument however if this assessment was applied to last night's dive, then Defoe anticipated contact 5 mins before the defender even thought about applying it........

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Just now, KingRocketman II said:

Think it was McLean's commentary which said that there were "half hearted claims for a penalty". No mention that it was dive. Not covered by Sportscene. It was a shocker of a dive and going by his last few games it seems it seems that this is one of Defoe's attributes. 

Against St Mirren, Michael Stewart tried to argue that Defoe "anticipated" the contact that never came and therefore it wasn't a dive. That's a nonsense argument however if this assessment was applied to last night's dive, then Defoe anticipated contact 5 mins before the defender even thought about applying it........

In fact, if you watch the incident closely, Defoe actually kicks out at Broadfoot with his right leg to 'manufacture' contact then dives. But that's ok according to Sportscene.
And by definition and precedent that will also be OK for the joke that is the Compliance Officer.

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Seems that Sportscene couldn’t be bothered to actually send a commentator to St Mirren v Dundee Utd yesterday, or even have them commentate “live” from Pacific Quay. Jamie Lyall was watching Scotland v Ireland in the rugby while the game in Paisley was ongoing.

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yep for the hard of thinking pundits (Billy Dodds to name but a few), the fact there was a suggestion of contact will be enough to confirm his "entitlement" to go down. Ignoring the ludicrousness of that school of thought, who initiated contact and the extent of the contact will be way beyond the simplicity of their assessment and tactical analysis. 

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2 hours ago, KingRocketman II said:

Think it was McLean's commentary which said that there were "half hearted claims for a penalty". No mention that it was dive. Not covered by Sportscene. It was a shocker of a dive and going by his last few games it seems it seems that this is one of Defoe's attributes. 

Against St Mirren, Michael Stewart tried to argue that Defoe "anticipated" the contact that never came and therefore it wasn't a dive. That's a nonsense argument however if this assessment was applied to last night's dive, then Defoe anticipated contact 5 mins before the defender even thought about applying it........

The "anticipation" argument is brilliant.

If a player "anticipated" the ball going in the net, do the pundits think a goal should be given?

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The "anticipation" argument is brilliant.
If a player "anticipated" the ball going in the net, do the pundits think a goal should be given?

It's not though.
The anticipation argument is a valid point. If a guy comes in at knee height a la McGregor, you'll do your damndest to get out the road.
If he misses and your evasion of the impending collision results in you not getting to the ball, a free kick is the correct call.

That said, that isn't the case with the Defoe incident, that was a dive.
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6 hours ago, lonewolfie said:

In fact, if you watch the incident closely, Defoe actually kicks out at Broadfoot with his right leg to 'manufacture' contact then dives. But that's ok according to Sportscene.
And by definition and precedent that will also be OK for the joke that is the Compliance Officer.

The compliance officer can't do anything about it - the rules only allow a ban for diving if it leads to a penalty, a red card or a free-kick from which a goal is scored.

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9 minutes ago, frank the pole said:

Is it just me but is anyone else annoyed that when you have Sportscene on series link on Virgin you have to delete this Saturday afternoon garbage show every week...

The same on Sky. I always get excited thinking there's been a Saturday night Sportscene when I'm flicking through my planner late Saturday or early Sunday. Every week without fail.

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Favourite moment of the season so far could well be the Celtic “chance” where the st Johnstone defender falls over then the goalie dives despite nobody even being in the vicinity of the cross never mind shooting at goal. Hopefully somebody can post a video.

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