Dindeleux Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Bell and McDonald are very similar quality of goalkeepers. They have different abilities but, overall, if they were on Fifa they'd both be about a 68.As for the referee, the last time was the only time we've ever some favourable decisions from him. In the past we've always felt that he's tried too hard to not to show any bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted August 2, 2017 Author Share Posted August 2, 2017 It's a complete farce he's allowed to ref Kilmarnock games. Tell you what Random, ask any Killie fan what they think of him? He's a total cnut, we get nothing off him, no matter who we play, seems to have a vandetta against his old man's ex team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Tell you what Random, ask any Killie fan what they think of him? He's a total cnut, we get nothing off him, no matter who we play, seems to have a vandetta against his old man's ex team. His performance at McDiarmid last season was a complete disgrace, I'll never get over that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Positive, sometimes. Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 54 minutes ago, C4mmy31 said: Tell you what Random, ask any Killie fan what they think of him? He's a total cnut, we get nothing off him, no matter who we play, seems to have a vandetta against his old man's ex team. I think its just a common trait shared with all official's in Scotland. "Being pish at their job" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deej Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 It's all a bit friendly and well mannered on here for such a powder-keg of a match to kick off the league campaign.....??? Meh f**k off you c**t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estragon Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Pleasing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I think Kilmarnock fans should be safe this weekend. There's been a big split in the St Johnstone support recently which I could see leading to a lot of bother at Saturday's game. I imagine the police will have a separate section for the ITK Saints fans whilst the rest of us stand on the other side of the barrier and shout abuse at the smug c***s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennysmassiveego Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 59 minutes ago, deej said: f**k off you c**t No you f&&k off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 On the budget I read a piece in the local paper about a "money spinning" tie away to Celtic in the cup. Whilst I'm sure the attendance will only be around 20,000 that actually makes a bit of sense as it might get us an extra £100k or something which I'm assuming would pay Greer's wage with maybe even a bit left over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottmcleanscontacts Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Just me who thinks MacDonald is a pretty average keeper then? Seems to look alright in shite teams when he gets to make plenty of saves. Surely a sign he's actually a decent keeper. He's made tens of brilliant saves against Saints over the years and in many cases been Man of the Match. You are talking shite. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Surely a sign he's actually a decent keeper. He's made tens of brilliant saves against Saints over the years and in many cases been Man of the Match. You are talking shite. Again. Not really no. I feel the same about Jordan Pickford. You automatically think a keepers great if they make lots of saves, MacDonald makes lots of saves so people see it that way. A lot of that is down the amount of chances the teams he plays in usually concede. Look past it and what I've seen is he's pretty poor in the air, always pushes the ball back into danger and will generally concede most games. Best compliment I can give him as that if you're thinking of a goalkeeper who'll be capable of playing in a bottom half team you think of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottmcleanscontacts Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Not really no. I feel the same about Jordan Pickford. You automatically think a keepers great if they make lots of saves, MacDonald makes lots of saves so people see it that way. A lot of that is down the amount of chances the teams he plays in usually concede. Look past it and what I've seen is he's pretty poor in the air, always pushes the ball back into danger and will generally concede most games. Best compliment I can give him as that if you're thinking of a goalkeeper who'll be capable of playing in a bottom half team you think of him. A keeper making lots of saves is average?Take Lloris at Spurs for example - i think Spurs conceded about 2 chances a game on average last season. Yet conceded probably 20 goals. So a keeper who is regarded as one of the best lets every other shot in.If Jamie MacDonald did the same I'd say Killie would be looking at losing at least 4 or 5 nil every week.Stats don't always tell the full truth however. MacDonald over the years has made some of the most incredible saves I've seen against Saints, sometimes 2 or 3 in a game. Either that's very unfortunate on our part or he's a pretty decent keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 I can exclusively reveal, on this occasion, that ScottMcLeansContacts is correct and RandomGuy is wrong. Many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 A keeper making lots of saves is average?Take Lloris at Spurs for example - i think Spurs conceded about 2 chances a game on average last season. Yet conceded probably 20 goals. So a keeper who is regarded as one of the best lets every other shot in.If Jamie MacDonald did the same I'd say Killie would be looking at losing at least 4 or 5 nil every week.Stats don't always tell the full truth however. MacDonald over the years has made some of the most incredible saves I've seen against Saints, sometimes 2 or 3 in a game. Either that's very unfortunate on our part or he's a pretty decent keeper. It's unfortunate on our part. He's the anti-thesis to Alan Mannus. One keeps clean sheets, the other makes spectacular saves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Suppose Saints are lucky that we have 3 better keepers on our books. 4 counting young Sinclair, who will be another international keeper in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 9 hours ago, PauloPerth said: I think Kilmarnock fans should be safe this weekend. There's been a big split in the St Johnstone support recently which I could see leading to a lot of bother at Saturday's game. I imagine the police will have a separate section for the ITK Saints fans whilst the rest of us stand on the other side of the barrier and shout abuse at the smug c***s. Our collective faces as you hurl abuse (I'll be a bit tipsy after sharing a pint with The Real Saints) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, tree house tam said: Suppose Saints are lucky that we have 3 better keepers on our books. 4 counting young Sinclair, who will be another international keeper in a few years. Used to be 5 but unfortunately Tam Scobbie is no longer with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 15 minutes ago, tree house tam said: Suppose Saints are lucky that we have 3 better keepers on our books. 4 counting young Sinclair, who will be another international keeper in a few years. Top quality trolling. You almost had me there, you young scamp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 On 02/08/2017 at 23:08, scottmcleanscontacts said: Surely a sign he's actually a decent keeper. He's made tens of brilliant saves against Saints over the years and in many cases been Man of the Match. You are talking shite. Again. I'd disagree. Bobby Geddes was a brilliant shot stopper for us, flapped at every cross. The things a keeper should be judged on are shot stopping, positioning, communication, commanding his area, dealing with cross balls and distribution. Mcdonald is great at one of those. He's competent at another 2. He's poor at 3. He's a decent keeper; no more, no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 hour ago, whiskychimp said: I'd disagree. Bobby Geddes was a brilliant shot stopper for us, flapped at every cross. The things a keeper should be judged on are shot stopping, positioning, communication, commanding his area, dealing with cross balls and distribution. Mcdonald is great at one of those. He's competent at another 2. He's poor at 3. He's a decent keeper; no more, no less. agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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