AJF Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: There have been a few pundits essentially saying Celtic arent strong enough to mount a sustained challenge. Craig Levein and Kris Commons are 2 that spring to mind that have made comments recently There's a difference in saying Celtic won't challenge if they keep up this form, or they won't challenge unless they get their best players back fit compared to "declaring somebody a champion". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 31 minutes ago, AJF said: There's a difference in saying Celtic won't challenge if they keep up this form, or they won't challenge unless they get their best players back fit compared to "declaring somebody a champion". Mate there were people saying this was done the moment Ange was appointed, you won't have to stray far from this forum to find those sort of comments 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 58 minutes ago, AJF said: There's a difference in saying Celtic won't challenge if they keep up this form, or they won't challenge unless they get their best players back fit compared to "declaring somebody a champion". Celtic have won the same amount of games as sevco so far this season yet our form is pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, wastecoatwilly said: Celtic have won the same amount of games as sevco so far this season yet our form is pish. I think it’s fairly clear that we are taking about league form when it’s in reference to Postecoglou claiming folk have said the league is over in September. Including wins in all competitions (including 2 more European fixtures than we have played) is completely irrelevant to the point being made. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 12 hours ago, AJF said: I think it’s fairly clear that we are taking about league form when it’s in reference to Postecoglou claiming folk have said the league is over in September. Including wins in all competitions (including 2 more European fixtures than we have played) is completely irrelevant to the point being made. Both teams have dropped points at home and both teams have lost away, it's very clear Celtic have had tougher fixtures, if the fixtures were reversed the table would look very different. Form is very relevant over all competitions Celtic have had better results in Europe than sevco plus the league is a marathon not a sprint. Ange also said our performances have been better than the results we've been getting I would agree with that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, CCB19035 said: Use your noggin. There's only been two champions (three if I feel like being picky) since 1985. If pundits are saying "Celtic are in trouble, they can't challenge etc" Who's going to end up champion in that scenario? But that's exactly my point, nobody has said that the league is over or that Celtic can't win the league. The pundits referred to earlier have simply said Celtic won't challenge unless x, y or z. They've not said it is over, which is what Postecoglou is claiming. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 37 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: Both teams have dropped points at home and both teams have lost away, it's very clear Celtic have had tougher fixtures, if the fixtures were reversed the table would look very different. Form is very relevant over all competitions Celtic have had better results in Europe than sevco plus the league is a marathon not a sprint. Ange also said our performances have been better than the results we've been getting I would agree with that. I'm not arguing that point though, it's Postecoglou that is making the claims folk are saying the league is over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, AJF said: I'm not arguing that point though, it's Postecoglou that is making the claims folk are saying the league is over. Ange has made it very clear and basically laughed off any suggestion that the league was over in September. He also said these people have been condescending to him since he arrived in the country he was not claiming anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 39 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: Ange has made it very clear and basically laughed off any suggestion that the league was over in September. He also said these people have been condescending to him since he arrived in the country he was not claiming anything. 24 minutes ago, CCB19035 said: Quite a few folk are saying that. Who in the media have said the league is over in September? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 minute ago, AJF said: Who in the media have said the league is over in September? Are you saying Ange is lying? I don't listen to the media in this country they're complicit M8 and have no credibility. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) tough game tonight but Sunday is more important Edited September 30, 2021 by BigDoddyKane 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, AJF said: Who in the media have said the league is over in September? There hasn't been a winner of our league outwith Rangers and Celtic in 36 years. With pundits saying Celtic don't have a squad capable of challenging Rangers then what is it you think they are saying? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, CCB19035 said: Also, Ange is trying to create a siege mentality, like Gerrard did from his very first game. I think that's probably what it comes down to. 1 hour ago, wastecoatwilly said: Are you saying Ange is lying? 26 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: There hasn't been a winner of our league outwith Rangers and Celtic in 36 years. With pundits saying Celtic don't have a squad capable of challenging Rangers then what is it you think they are saying? I've already went over that though. Your examples of Commons and Levein showed that no such claims that that the league is over by September have been made. Commons said the league will be done by November IF they don't improve (and it is likely they will) and Levein said Celtic will only challenge once they get their players fit that are missing. Again, no claim that Celtic have already lost the league title. As mentioned above, it just seems to be an attempt to create that siege mentality by claiming things that haven't been said. It appeases the Celtic fans somewhat with the whole "everyone has written us off" mentality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 You get upset by weird things @AJF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_blueco Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) Only experience I have had of people saying it’s done are a couple of my Celtic supporting colleagues . They seem to be mirroring my attitude at the start of Warburton and Pedro seasons after a few disappointing early results. Edited September 30, 2021 by Forever_blueco 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 48 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: You get upset by weird things @AJF I’m calling Big Ange out for talking shite, that’s about it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 hours ago, AJF said: I’m calling Big Ange out for talking shite, that’s about it The only one talking shite is you M8, why would Celtic need a siege mentality? Plus Celtic fans don't give two fecks about the people that write us off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: Plus Celtic fans don't give two fecks about the people that write us off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 This may already have been covered on here, but does anyone know if Romeo is ok? He has dropped off P&B, and I would like to think it isn’t anything sinister. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Plus Celtic fans don't give two fecks about the people that write us off. If you play that backwards it sounds like "No one likes us, we don't care"Sent from my SM-G780G using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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