Henrik's tongue Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, G51 said: https://www.footballinsider247.com/celtic-open-talks-with-man-city-transfer-guru-harkin-for-director-of-football/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1615563257 Congratulations to Celtic for becoming part of the City Football Group. An organisation that very much aligns with their ethical values. DMCs says your rage is palpable. Or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Henrik's tongue said: DMCs says your rage is palpable. Or something. Needs more desperate emojis imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Needs more desperate emojis imo.Douchebag! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Positive, sometimes. Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 "harassment?" Let's not pretend they're visiting individuals with zero previous of similar. The best indicator of future behaviour is previous behaviour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 It doesn't matter how much "previous" they have, it is definitely police harrassment to visit people in their homes during a pandemic to warn them about something they haven't even done. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, craigkillie said: It doesn't matter how much "previous" they have, it is definitely police harrassment to visit people in their homes during a pandemic to warn them about something they haven't even done. Is this possibly a pre-emptive measure considering there was a campaign organised by Celtic fans to attend Parkhead next week to “defend” the stadium? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Positive, sometimes. Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, craigkillie said: It doesn't matter how much "previous" they have, it is definitely police harrassment to visit people in their homes during a pandemic to warn them about something they haven't even done. So reactive is better? Just allow them to gather during a pandemic then deal with the larger effort post it happening? What about potential impact on the wider population? The poor minority getting "harassed" because they can't and won't follow rules. The police periodically visit offenders of other crimes as a preemptive measure but there's not some outcry of harassment for that. Is that because they're not football fans? Without doubt these people were going to turn up. It's planned. I don't get visits like this from the police nor do you I imagine, because we don't have countless arrests for similar crimes. Edited March 13, 2021 by Mr Positive, sometimes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Positive, sometimes. Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, AJF said: Is this possibly a pre-emptive measure considering there was a campaign organised by Celtic fans to attend Parkhead next week to “defend” the stadium? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr Positive, sometimes. said: So now they're pro defending statues.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy boo Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 That'll be the same mob that were chucking fences about a few months back!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Statue protectors 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 "We all seen what happend..." Christ on a bike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Mr Positive, sometimes. said: "harassment?" Let's not pretend they're visiting individuals with zero previous of similar. The best indicator of future behaviour is previous behaviour. Let’s not make assumptions, you aren’t in the possession of the facts and generally visits are only made to high risk offenders where there is high risk of re-offending. This doesn’t seem to fall into that category based on the very limited information known. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Positive, sometimes. Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jinky67 said: Let’s not make assumptions, you aren’t in the possession of the facts and generally visits are only made to high risk offenders where there is high risk of re-offending. This doesn’t seem to fall into that category based on the very limited information known. Nonsense. How do the police even know these individuals they're visiting are Celtic fans if they've no previous for arrests involving Celtic games? Also, does the severity of a crime mean police visiting isn't harassment? It's either harassment or it's not them preemptively visiting. The *worst* case scenario of Celtic & Rangers fans turning up is there's violent classes. Probably unlikely but this is an attempt to stop anything happening rather than reactive after the fact after its out of control. If football is on the front page again next next Monday, it's in big trouble and the season is over. Edited March 13, 2021 by Mr Positive, sometimes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Mr Positive, sometimes. said: So reactive is better? Just allow them to gather during a pandemic then deal with the larger effort post it happening? What about potential impact on the wider population? The poor minority getting "harassed" because they can't and won't follow rules. The police periodically visit offenders of other crimes as a preemptive measure but there's not some outcry of harassment for that. Is that because they're not football fans? Without doubt these people were going to turn up. It's planned. I don't get visits like this from the police nor do you I imagine, because we don't have countless arrests for similar crimes. It's police intimidation, pure and simple. If they wanted to contact "offenders" (of which you have precisely no evidence these people are), then they can do it over the phone just as effectively without having to make a completely unncessary journey during a period where people are supposed to be staying at home for their own safety. They could also do so during the day, not late at night or early in the morning. Fortunately their requests to jump the queue for vaccinations have been correctly filed straight into the bin given that this is what they consider an essential interaction with the public. You can't claim to be concerned about the impact on the wider population from these people gathering if they themselves are engaging in this sort of unncessary and high risk behaviour. Somehow the police managed to call off a planned event in London which was organised after one of their own was arrested for murder, and somehow they managed to effectively police protests about NHS payrises by dishing out ludicrous fines to people, but now we're supposed to believe that they are incapable of dealing with this event in the same way? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energyzone Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 It's police intimidation, pure and simple. If they wanted to contact "offenders" (of which you have precisely no evidence these people are), then they can do it over the phone just as effectively without having to make a completely unncessary journey during a period where people are supposed to be staying at home for their own safety. They could also do so during the day, not late at night or early in the morning. Fortunately their requests to jump the queue for vaccinations have been correctly filed straight into the bin given that this is what they consider an essential interaction with the public. You can't claim to be concerned about the impact on the wider population from these people gathering if they themselves are engaging in this sort of unncessary and high risk behaviour. Somehow the police managed to call off a planned event in London which was organised after one of their own was arrested for murder, and somehow they managed to effectively police protests about NHS payrises by dishing out ludicrous fines to people, but now we're supposed to believe that they are incapable of dealing with this event in the same way? It's police intimidation, pure and simple. If they wanted to contact "offenders" (of which you have precisely no evidence these people are), then they can do it over the phone just as effectively without having to make a completely unncessary journey during a period where people are supposed to be staying at home for their own safety. They could also do so during the day, not late at night or early in the morning. Fortunately their requests to jump the queue for vaccinations have been correctly filed straight into the bin given that this is what they consider an essential interaction with the public. You can't claim to be concerned about the impact on the wider population from these people gathering if they themselves are engaging in this sort of unncessary and high risk behaviour. Somehow the police managed to call off a planned event in London which was organised after one of their own was arrested for murder, and somehow they managed to effectively police protests about NHS payrises by dishing out ludicrous fines to people, but now we're supposed to believe that they are incapable of dealing with this event in the same way? I don't necessarily agree with the tactics but there's a couple of reasons why this would be better carried out face to face. Data protection for one (how can they be sure they are taking to the right person?) and the very strong likelihood that the phones are just not going to be answered or hung up immediately upon introduction.Re your point about vaccinations - the decision of a senior officer to employ these tactics which you and many others disagree with doesn't negate the fact that a sizeable section of the population is continuing to act as if there is no pandemic and so the spinning wheel of violent crime, domestics, house parties etc continues - all of which the police are responding to day in, day out. I think your point is a bit unfair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 22 hours ago, Mr Positive, sometimes. said: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/keane-celtic-manager-266604 Oh please. Please please please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 On 13/03/2021 at 13:12, AJF said: Is this possibly a pre-emptive measure considering there was a campaign organised by Celtic fans to attend Parkhead next week to “defend” the stadium? Defend the stadium from who? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightswoodBear Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 22 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: Defend the stadium from who? Sharknado 2: Metalsharknado 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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