HibeeJibee Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Newly added to the list of tournaments whose winners enter the Scottish Cup is the South & East of Scotland Cup-Winners' Shield; effectively a Supercup facing off the two winners of the non-members cups of the EOS & SOS leagues. It provides a cup route in the way the Junior Cup has for 10yrs. With these non-members cups now drawn the first flickering of qualifying for 2018-19 is:Alex Jack Cup First Round Tweedmouth Rangers v Heriot-Watt University Ormiston v Peebles Rovers Tynecastle v Eyemouth UtdSemi-Finals Tweedmouth Rangers / Heriot-Watt University v Leith Athletic Tynecastle / Eyemouth Utd v Ormiston / Peebles RoversSouthern Alternate Alba Cup First Round Creetown v Upper Annandale Dumfries YMCA v Nithsdale WanderersSecond Round Lochar Thistle v Creetown / Upper Annandale Dumfries YMCA / Nithsdale Wanderers v Mid Annandale Abbey Vale v Bonnyton Thistle Heston Rovers v Lochmaben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calmac25 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Shame for Lothian HV to not be able to retain the cup as if Kelty win the league they'll not be able to qualify for the Scottish Cup through thisI presume that the qualifiers for the Scottish cup don't get in its played on Scottish Cup weekends?Opens it up for Tynecastle and Leith and maybe Lochar from the South who sound like they are strengthening their squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 They are east super league champions so have got a place through that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 1 hour ago, calmac25 said: Shame for Lothian HV to not be able to retain the cup as if Kelty win the league they'll not be able to qualify for the Scottish Cup through this I presume that the qualifiers for the Scottish cup don't get in its played on Scottish Cup weekends? As you say it is held on the same weekends as the Scottish Cup - for obvious reasons - which precludes the Scottish Cup qualifiers from participating. Alex Jack Cup has been on the go for 30 years... Southern Alternate Cup has been introduced as a mirror tournament to feed the SESCW Shield. In practice that's also a good thing... No club will be able to win the Shield multiple times running, ensuring a different club should qualify each year, spreading the opportunity around. One concern with these qualifying places - in Juniors and Seniors - is that a club wins its league; goes a few rounds in the Scottish Cup; make a 5 figure sum; and uses that money to reinforce its dominance and win league again. It's possible someone unlicensed will win both the Shield and their league, or win the Shield and get licensed mid-season, but that's reasonably unlikely IMO. 45 minutes ago, gogsy said: Kelty are not SFA members at the moment, is there any reason why they aren't in the Alex Jack cup other than the fact they might be getting their licence in August? 35 minutes ago, parsforlife said: They are east super league champions so have got a place through that This - they qualified by winning East Juniors before joining EOSL. Formally-speaking the phrase "non members cup" is no longer strictly accurate - "not playing in the Scottish Cup cup" would be precise. For completeness it's worth saying that the other qualifying routes remain as previously - by winning the EOS League; SOS League; North Juniors; East Juniors; West Juniors; or the Junior Cup; or the Amateur Cup. If a licensed club win any of them (which is quite possible in EOS and SOS but unlikely in Juniors beyond BoD or Linlithgow) no runners-up qualify instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 It shouldn't affect Kelty + LTHV anyway: both are closing on getting licenced. Indeed the ideal would be different qualifiers using Scottish Cup profits to help achieve that criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Was it not the case that the winners of this year's tourney were to qualify? I know LTHV won the EoS anyway but it was reported at the time of the final that the winner got a Scottish Cup place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 They were but LTHV did the double. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 3 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: As you say it is held on the same weekends as the Scottish Cup - for obvious reasons - which precludes the Scottish Cup qualifiers from participating. Alex Jack Cup has been on the go for 30 years... Southern Alternate Cup has been introduced as a mirror tournament to feed the SESCW Shield. In practice that's also a good thing... No club will be able to win the Shield multiple times running, ensuring a different club should qualify each year, spreading the opportunity around.One concern with these qualifying places - in Juniors and Seniors - is that a club wins its league; goes a few rounds in the Scottish Cup; make a 5 figure sum; and uses that money to reinforce its dominance and win league again. It's possible someone unlicensed will win both the Shield and their league, or win the Shield and get licensed mid-season, but that's reasonably unlikely IMO. This - they qualified by winning East Juniors before joining EOSL. Formally-speaking the phrase "non members cup" is no longer strictly accurate - "not playing in the Scottish Cup cup" would be precise. For completeness it's worth saying that the other qualifying routes remain as previously - by winning the EOS League; SOS League; North Juniors; East Juniors; West Juniors; or the Junior Cup; or the Amateur Cup. If a licensed club win any of them (which is quite possible in EOS and SOS but unlikely in Juniors beyond BoD or Linlithgow) no runners-up qualify instead. Always a good chance of that happening, part and parcel of football. You can say EK's good cup run and game v Celtic helped propel them to winning last seasons LL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 True - same with Celtic and CL ££. I think spreading the opportunity and chance to make ££ around is one benefit of the circumstances, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 SOSL confirms certain dates, matching Scottish Cup:Southern Alternate Alba Cup R1 - Saturday 12th August R2 - Saturday 2nd September SF - Saturday 23rd SeptemberFinal - Friday 13th OctoberSouth & East of Scotland Cup-Winners' ShieldSunday 19th November (at Oriam) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 Saturday's results:Southern Alternate Alba Cup R1 Creetown 0-3 Upper Annandale Dumfries YMCA 1-3 Nithsdale Wanderers Fixtures upcoming September 2nd:Southern Alternate Alba Cup R2 Abbey Vale v Bonnyton Thistle Heston Rovers v Lochmaben Lochar Thistle v Upper Annandale Nithsdale Wanderers v Mid AnnandaleAlex Jack Cup R1 Tynecastle v Eyemouth Utd (Sat 26th Aug - LTHV at home in Scottish Cup on Sat 2nd Sep) Ormiston v Peebles Rovers Tweedmouth Rangers v Heriot-Watt University Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 With the mighty Berwick hosing QotS in the SPFL Challenge Cup R2 on Sep 2nd the Tweedmouth v Heriot-Watt game is also Saturday coming like Tynecastle-Eyemouth says EOSL website. So 2 of 3 ties actually 1 week early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share Posted August 26, 2017 Thumping wins as Tweedmouth 1-7 Heriot-Watt Uni sees the students progress to home SF v Leith, whilst Tynecastle 7-0 Eyemouth puts them through to host Ormiston/Peebles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 For the most part the 'big beasts' among the non-membership made it through in each competition:Southern Alternate Alba Cup R2 Abbey Vale 1-4 Bonnyton Thistle Lochar Thistle 1-3 Upper Annandale Heston Rovers 4-3 Lochmaben (aet, FT 3-3) Nithsdale Wanderers 2-3 Mid AnnandaleAlex Jack Cup R1 Ormiston 0-3 Peebles Rovers This leaves SFs of the respective cups (Sep 23rd except Tynecastle 1 week later):Southern Alternate Alba Cup SFs Bonnyton Thistle, Heston Rovers, Mid Annandale, Upper AnnandaleAlex Jack Cup SFs Heriot-Watt University v Leith Athletic Tynecastle v Peebles Rovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 Presumably to attract a bumper crowd - and something they do periodically - Mid Annandale's SF goes ahead on Friday 22nd September, says SOSL website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 Mid Annandale comfortably dispatched Heston Rovers 4-1 tonight to secure their place in the Southern Alternate Alba Cup Final. Their rivals Upper Annandale will try to set-up a derby final, when they travel to Bonnyton tomorrow afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpaty Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Just now, HibeeJibee said: Mid Annandale comfortably dispatched Heston Rovers 4-1 tonight to secure their place in the Southern Alternate Alba Cup Final. Their rivals Upper Annandale will try to set-up a derby final, when they travel to Bonnyton tomorrow afternoon. Who won the Spartans game tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 Wrong thread... but in the 2017-18 Scottish Cup competition Spartans just defeated Vale of Leithen 3-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy25 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Bonnyton Thistle 1 Upper Annandale 2Half-Time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy25 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Bonnyton Thistle 6 Upper Annandale 2Full-Time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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