hk blues Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Why shouldn't it be seen as a lottery win for anyone involved? The establishment are only bothered about cash, the higher the payouts the better as far as I'm concerned. It shouldn't be seen as a lottery win because the payout will be from public funds, ultimately? The compensation should be appropriate , no more and no less. I don't agree it should become a trough that everyone is eating from.Why shouldn't 'The Establishment' (whatever that may be) be worried about the cash, they are exactly tasked to do this, surely? About the only potential justification for making US-style compensation awards would be to either punish those to blame or to prevent such accidents in future - given the deep involvement of public servants in the events, I seriously doubt either justification could be argued.Just my opinion though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 43 minutes ago, hk blues said: It shouldn't be seen as a lottery win because the payout will be from public funds, ultimately? The compensation should be appropriate , no more and no less. I don't agree it should become a trough that everyone is eating from. Why shouldn't 'The Establishment' (whatever that may be) be worried about the cash, they are exactly tasked to do this, surely? About the only potential justification for making US-style compensation awards would be to either punish those to blame or to prevent such accidents in future - given the deep involvement of public servants in the events, I seriously doubt either justification could be argued. Just my opinion though. How much is appropriate for a life or for the trauma caused? I think it's worth a lottery win, don't you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Don't see much wrong with it being treated as a political football by those who are campaigning for safer housing and less flagrant disregard for the life of poor people. It's political action that will address this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 If the assumption is that a "fix" is going in, it doesn't really matter who the judge is does it? Labour want a woman or an ethnic minority judge, I shit ye not. Never mind this is a very senior appeal courts judge with 50 years experience in Commercial law, he's the wrong colour and gender. FFS! I don't think Labour particularly care who the judge is and they don't particularly care about the residents, as evidenced by their role in the regulations and housing over decades. All they want to do is disrupt the enquiry, turn it into a race/class conflict, ensure the Tories get blamed and somehow try to force a General Election. Speaking of tinfoil hat drivel [emoji38] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 54 minutes ago, Tynieness said: Went by the tower on the bus the other day. A truly haunting sight. It's a bit early to put it on the open top bus tour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Went by the tower on the bus the other day. A truly haunting sight. Did you go just for a look around? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 How much is appropriate for a life or for the trauma caused? I think it's worth a lottery win, don't you? Difficult to put a value on a life/trauma but the insurance companies etc do it all the time. Not seeing many lottery type awards being made by them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Don't see much wrong with it being treated as a political football by those who are campaigning for safer housing and less flagrant disregard for the life of poor people. It's political action that will address this. I agree with you - assuming the politicking is aimed at dealing with the issues you mention. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 2 hours ago, hk blues said: Difficult to put a value on a life/trauma but the insurance companies etc do it all the time. Not seeing many lottery type awards being made by them. I know a lady that got over £1m for a bit of brain damage due to a RTA, she still functions normally with a bit of nutjob thrown in, a nine figure payout would do the establishment the world of good IMHO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 How come there haven't been loads of stories about heroic firemen like there were for 9/11? They saved loads of people, at huge risk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 On 06/07/2017 at 15:51, Sergeant Wilson said: It's a bit early to put it on the open top bus tour. He's a Jambo. He doesn't see an open top bus too often. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Our old friend has weighed in with his thoughts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Our old friend has weighed in with his thoughts. The problem with Reynard is he never stops smiling. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Thought I was done reading his pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Just heard there has been 20 mill raised by public donations. How would P&B use this money. Just divvie it up? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Sponsor a Dundee player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Just now, whiskychimp said: Just heard there has been 20 mill raised by public donations. How would P&B use this money. Just divvie it up? Put it into a Trust with Grimbo and Deefiant in charge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Stellaboz said: Sponsor a Dundee player. The Grenfell Commuity fund would like to promote Paul Mcgowan with a sponsorship of 20 million pounds. We hope his achievements will give us warmth and happiness that no roof could ever bring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Final death total announced as 71. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 They were removing the last of the bodies couple of weekends ago 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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