Jute Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 There was a local resident on Channel 4 news having a go at John Snow and rest of media for not reporting that death toll was over 150. John Snow did not deny that that he had heard that figure. Horrible if true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Someone at my work genuinely believes this could be a revenge attack by some right wing nutter against immigrants. I must admit, the thought hadn't even come in to my mind until he said it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleMoo Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 There was a local resident on Channel 4 news having a go at John Snow and rest of media for not reporting that death toll was over 150. John Snow did not deny that that he had heard that figure. Horrible if true. I'm sure it was Lilly Allen. She was going off big time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 13 minutes ago, Jute said: There was a local resident on Channel 4 news having a go at John Snow and rest of media for not reporting that death toll was over 150. John Snow did not deny that that he had heard that figure. Horrible if true. There is no question the death toll is in 3 figures. Question is why this time the media have gone for the official line of confirmed deaths when they have never been concerned about speculating on people missing in past? Going back to my point earlier I think people are managing this very carefully as there is potential for some serious civil disorder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Every pundit saying "You can't put a price on human lives." Utter bollocks, insurance companies, NICE and risk assessors of all kinds do so every minute. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernJambo Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Paul Nuttall's heroism in running into the blazing tower block to rescue a Muslim family will never be forgotten. How he got back to the hospital to carry out life saving surgery, I will never know. Maybe he drove the ambulance. So soon after playing in the champions league final as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resk Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 I'd imagine they're still trying to figure out how many people were inside the building when it went up. Difficult to do TBH. It's not like people swipe in and out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 16 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: I doubt but they've found everybody yet tbf. Deffo 100+ though. Agreed, but others are expecting media sources to put names and numbers on it. They are damned if if they or don't. Would you say to a potentially bereaved parent "can't find your kid, so we'll just file him under dead, 'cos he had no chance and we need stats for the next bulletin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 35 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: There is no question the death toll is in 3 figures. Question is why this time the media have gone for the official line of confirmed deaths when they have never been concerned about speculating on people missing in past? Going back to my point earlier I think people are managing this very carefully as there is potential for some serious civil disorder. Protecting the Tories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Couple of quotes from the Met police commander on the BBC website.Six victims of the Grenfell Tower blaze have been provisionally identified, Metropolitan Police Commander Stuart Cundy said, but "there is a risk that sadly we may not be able to identify everybody".Asked about the number of dead, Cdr Cundysaid: "I hope it is not triple figures, but I can't be drawn on the numbers." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 The six victims he identified are all jumpers as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Just now, resk said: I'd imagine they're still trying to figure out how many people were inside the building when it went up. Difficult to do TBH. It's not like people swipe in and out. Paul Nuttall will figure it out. He was Pythagoras teacher, before he conquered Rome in the battle of El Alamein. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 The fire brigade haven't been inside the building yet. All the victims so far must have been jumpers. I still don't believe the story of the kid being caught after being thrown from the 9th floor either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 The fire brigade haven't been inside the building yet. All the victims so far must have been jumpers. I still don't believe the story of the kid being caught after being thrown from the 9th floor either. So when the LFB commissioner said that they have had firefighters all the way up to the 24th floor she was lying? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Just now, peasy23 said: So when the LFB commissioner said that they have had firefighters all the way up to the 24th floor she was lying? Well, the news tonight showed a drone they said was assessing the building to see if it was safe to enter, I think. I could be wrong, I honestly having been paying that much attention to the news recently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Musketeer Gripweed said: The fire brigade haven't been inside the building yet. All the victims so far must have been jumpers. I still don't believe the story of the kid being caught after being thrown from the 9th floor either. They have. The Syrian guy identified was in his flat. They have been right up to top floor but can't get in flats above first few floors as ceilings/floors not stable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 So when the LFB commissioner said that they have had firefighters all the way up to the 24th floor she was lying? This was said after the confirmed casualties though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 I picked it up wrong, apologies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) Just now, peasy23 said: So when the LFB commissioner said that they have had firefighters all the way up to the 24th floor she was lying? And the ones pictured were holographs. Edited June 15, 2017 by Sergeant Wilson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) Have they actually given out a guesstimate of how many are still missing? Edited June 15, 2017 by ayrmad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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