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Just now, FairWeatherFan said:

The West Region has already changed to fit into the Senior calendar. There shouldn't be any of this scaremongering to say entering the pyramid would mean any changes to the current set up beyond the loss of the Junior Cup.

Sectionals, West of Scotland Cup, Champions Cup can all remain. That's within the remit of the West Region committee and members as it always has been. The EoS even had their own Sectional League Cup last year that was the start of the season.

 

You use the word scaremongering. Was that the same Scaremongering when I said opition z would never be accepted

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5 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:


Both clubs have equal share over the priority of the park. The SJFA allowed and accommodated a BSC/Maryhill groundshare so it’s entirely feasible. Id hope the people behind Yoker would get behind a WOSL anyway. Anyway the SJFA rule is nonsense.

I have already stated that I appreciate teams wanting to better themselves. I spoke at the West meeting last year and expressed my concerns about the way the west was going about the Pyramid.  The whole thing is a total shambles but their will be a solution for teams like Clydebank and others who want to better themselves but all we seem to get on here is hypothetical writings. Constructive dialogue must prevail. My only concern is the impact on smaller teams

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1 minute ago, Burnie_man said:

Fair point, but those clubs moved from the SoS into a stronger league.  Would they SoS want to be seen as a passage of covenience again for much stronger clubs? who knows.  We might never find out.

I don't think we will ever find out.

Let's face it the majority of the EoS clubs from the original 13 (even replacing Kelty for Hawick), knew that they would be relegating themselves to the bottom of any future EoS league structure. Which turned out to be the case as known of them made the EoS Premier Division this season.

The same applies to the SoS if they had to make that choice. Stranraer and Caledonian Braves might actually prefer it for their reserve sides being able to go up and down divisions and stronger cups. Braves even have the potential headache in future of being relegated to a WoSFL while having their reserves in the SoSFL. Both at Tier 6.

Bonnyton Thistle would maybe prefer it to. So there's 3/15 liking the idea.

Threave Rovers get knocked as not interested in the pyramid, yet joined the EoS in the pre-pyramid days and signed up for the Lowland League. They would probably like the challenge of going up and down divisions. Mid-Annandale find the time to field a u20 team. Uppers do as well, although I heard at the time that was more of a youth team taking on the name for entry.

There might be enough to let it pass if it ever happens. They never said no to East Kilbride, Edusport Academy or Bonnyton Thistle. They were all seen as just using the SoSFL as a stepping stone.

 

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As the EoS used to be edinburgh and East. Things changed fast.

I'd look at a map.   The SoS is supposed to cater for Dumfries & Galloway mainly, but have taken in some waifs and strays due to the lack of WoSFL.  They are also an old established league.

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11 minutes ago, sweep said:

You use the word scaremongering. Was that the same Scaremongering when I said opition z would never be accepted

The week before the the West Region meeting I said that the region are probably going to vote for Option Z said even though there wasn't a chance in hell of it passing the PWG.

You cannot call it scaremongering when it turns out to be a fact.

Also, if the premise is that the West Region enters the pyramid intact. What's the reason for the Sectional League Cup being scrapped? You know, who's doing it and why?

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1 minute ago, FairWeatherFan said:

The week before the the West Region meeting I said that the region are probably going to vote for Option Z said even though there wasn't a chance in hell of it passing the PWG.

You cannot call it scaremongering when it turns out to be a fact.

Also, if the premise is that the West Region enters the pyramid intact. What's the reason for the Sectional League Cup being scrapped? You know, who's doing it and why?

It  may not be scrapped. This would need to be decided

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Just now, grinderbrokeyourhearts said:

As the EoS used to be edinburgh and East. Things changed fast.

They still are.  Bathgate and Bo'ness used to be members before the war.

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Just now, sweep said:

It  may not be scrapped. This would need to be decided

Why does it need to be decided? Entering the pyramid doesn't change local cup competitions. The SoS and EoS kept all of there's when they signed up for the LL pyramid play-off.

Are people talking about it being scrapped now? Because I know with the league restructuring there were those that wanted it scrapped back then. Unless they're talking about scrapping it now, then entering the pyramid changes nothing.

 

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1 hour ago, sweep said:

So in your wealth of knowledge who would get priority at Holm park if Clydebank left the juniors .The sjfa rule  states that the member club Must have priority. Clydebank would no longer be a member club

They could always ask Yoker to evict us, again...

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52 minutes ago, Ginaro said:

No doubt the same thing was said about the East Juniors linking up with the 10-team East of Scotland League back in 2017 but here we are :)

Hardly considering it is the same geographical area.

Unless of course you think Cumbernauld is nearby Castle Douglas.

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1 minute ago, Tutankhamen said:

Hardly considering it is the same geographical area.

Unless of course you think Cumbernauld is nearby Castle Douglas.

Cumbernauld isn't really near Ayrshire either but it looks like Cumbernauld Utd  will be making trips there at least ten times in the league next season. (Travelling times 45-65 minutes)

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3 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said:

Hardly considering it is the same geographical area.

Unless of course you think Cumbernauld is nearby Castle Douglas.

Similar to Hawick and Jeanfield eh

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6 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said:

Hardly considering it is the same geographical area.

Unless of course you think Cumbernauld is nearby Castle Douglas.

Here was Burntisland Shipyard's first league campaign in the East of Scotland League back in 2012-13.

Coldstream, Berwick, Eyemouth, Gala, Kelso, Selkirk, Duns, Peebles and Hawick.

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Tonnes and tonnes of local games for local people.

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34 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:

I am certain a new league will be formed, but my own personal opinion is that the SoS should be absorbed into the West structure. Ideally to me it's either a region at tied 8 or it becomes a conference within tier 6 of the WoS for one season.

I agree on both points. The SoS covers too small a region to be considered a viable Tier 6 league - that has become even more apparent when you place it side by side with the current EoS. It would be the same story with a new WoS. The place for the SoS as an entity is alongside regional leagues much further down the pyramid. That doesn't mean that all the teams have to be further down the pyramid of course - there would still be opportunities for promotion/integration into a West structure at a higher tier.

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29 minutes ago, gogsy said:

Cumbernauld isn't really near Ayrshire either but it looks like Cumbernauld Utd  will be making trips there at least ten times in the league next season. (Travelling times 45-65 minutes)

 Stick to the LL forum, you're digging a giant hole.

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Just now, Tutankhamen said:

 Stick to the LL forum, you're digging a giant hole.

Gee thanks for that.

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2 minutes ago, gogsy said:

Gee thanks for that.

The West Juniors ain't joining the South of Scotland League any more than Kelty playing Lugar in a league game.

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43 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said:

Hardly considering it is the same geographical area.

Unless of course you think Cumbernauld is nearby Castle Douglas.

Is camelon or.dunipace near coldstream.

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4 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said:

The West Juniors ain't joining the South of Scotland League any more than Kelty playing Lugar in a league game.

The west juniors will be staying weat juniors some.clubs will be leaving and that maybe the sosfl

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2 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said:

The west juniors will be staying weat juniors some.clubs will be leaving and that maybe the sosfl

No chance of it being the SoSL.

 

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