Cyclizine Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Killiepiyo said: Generally speaking working groups are task with making recommendations in my experience elsewhere. So did this fall apart prior to the recommendations being made to the SFA or did it make recommendations that some parties did not agree with>? The juniors were fully represented on the PWG, along with the non-league seniors. There weren't any "recommendations", there were topics to discuss as a working party, a recommendation would be what the PWG would give to the SFA once they had a consensus amongst the attendees. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Born To Run said: I’ll try to clarify - I’m Derek (Mozza) from the podcast. I was more referring to comments made over the last few years, both public and private, in which certain people have stated that the region (at least in part) should enter at Tier 5 as the quality of the Premiership was on par with the Lowland. This obviously can’t happen in practice as all Tier 5 sides must be licensed. IIRC the option was included in one of the questionnaires sent to member clubs however. thanks Mozza, yeah the comment when I said 'would never happen' as I should have elaborated what you said that the clubs weren't licensed for that level thus couldn't go in at Tier 5. Enjoyed the podcast it will be good to get various junior men in the podcast but ones who are not blinkered and know the full realms of the potentials of joining the pyramid and also ones with good reasons not to join. In order for people to understand any viewpoint we also need to understand why they come to their viewpoint and these make it a lot easier and open for discussion, creating an ideal honest approach 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theesel1994 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Just now, pipedreamer said: The west Region was offered to enter the pyramid while a solution to the rest was sought, option W in the list of proposals for discussion, Tom Johnstone blocked this. the tier 6 juniors proposal was included at the insistence of him, even though it was rejected unanimously the previous year. He knows fine we’ll what he’s doing and as long as there are sheep in the west who will follow him blindly, he’ll continue to stifle progression in order to keep is cushty job. WRSJFA would have entered the pyramid intact next season, except for one man’s veto, and it wasn’t the LL or EoS... Maybe the clubs should have voted for this, rather than voting how they thought the Management Committee wanted them to vote. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 ffs I'm sure this thread reached a 1000 pages about 10 minutes ago, 2000 coming next week then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Well Kilwinning seem to be believe what was written on here... Funny reading a comment on Auchinleck's facebook - "The two clubs who have put their heads above the parapet so far are serious under achievers at our level" - I do recall similar things being said when Dalkeith etc made public their intention to move two years ago.Serious under achievers?lol. We’ve won more cups in 18 years of football than some junior clubs have in almost a hundred. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Option W was the west region entering at tier 6 without the east juniors correct? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepiyo Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 So in somewhat collective summary what folk are saying is there was no recommendations by the pwg and it is false because the whole thing fell apart before they could. TJ lied regarding this to everyone. However there is no direct evidence of this but folk have told other folk and a chairman tweeted something that may have been to do with it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Cyclizine said: The juniors were fully represented on the PWG, along with the non-league seniors. There weren't any "recommendations", there were topics to discuss as a working party, a recommendation would be what the PWG would give to the SFA once they had a consensus amongst the attendees. Probably true, but has the PWG been "disbanded" as stated on here ?. Only the SFA can confirm if that is true or not. Junior clubs need to know, in order that they know the position, and can decide what action, if any, they need to take now. Their fans deserve to know as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepiyo Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Serious under achievers?lol. We’ve won more cups in 18 years of football than some junior clubs have in almost a hundred. More winding up on here.. I could quote a hundred things of different clubs facebook comments, doesn't mean anyone actually feels that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepiyo Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Robert James said: Probably true, but has the PWG been "disbanded" as stated on here ?. Only the SFA can confirm if that is true or not. Junior clubs need to know, in order that they know the position, and can decide what action, if any, they need to take now. Their fans deserve to know as well. There was a picture of the kilwinning facebook account saying they had contacted TJ and he confirmed it was disbanded. 3rd or 4th hand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Gold Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Serious under achievers?lol. We’ve won more cups in 18 years of football than some junior clubs have in almost a hundred. But you said they mean nothing to you! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy25 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 It that not what you do Mr Hunter? Mr Holroyd says exactly the same type of stuff on here , constantly belittling other teams both junior and non junior. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Good to see poster TFW stirring it on the Talbot facebook, having a pop at Kilwinning for not having won anything in twenty years and claiming the Bankies support is split on what to do next. That would be the Bankies support who voted overwhelmingly at an egm 2 years ago to join the pyramid. I was one of only 3 people to vote against the proposal and my vote against was because the proposal didnt have us leaving quick enough as did one of the other voters. A current poll on our messageboard has 80 votes in 2 days, 75 for leaving 5 for staying, some of those 5 are trolls. Hardly split. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) Killiepiyo - you are one hell of a devil's advocate tonight. Edited February 3, 2020 by cmontheloknow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepiyo Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Just now, gogsy said: Mr Holroyd says exactly the same type of stuff on here , constantly belittling other teams both junior and non junior. And what does that mean? Everyone at Auchinleck has a similar attitude? Is everyone at Darvel like Mr Leg-end etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy25 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Okay [emoji848] No 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkcircus Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 33 minutes ago, Killiepiyo said: Quoting Facebook comments, intentions and a snap shot of Kilwinning confirming the PWG was disbanded is not evidence of Kilwinning beilving everything written on here? Buffs won the Scottish Cup before Talbot we’re formed On another note: we saw information on this thread and called the association to clarify, and they did. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Killiepiyo said: There was a picture of the kilwinning facebook account saying they had contacted TJ and he confirmed it was disbanded. 3rd or 4th hand. So you're basing everything off of 2nd hand information. Stuff that TJ or Iain McQueen told you. Kilwinning Rangers FB which is probably being run by someone on the committee contacted TJ and said it was disbanded. Potentially 2nd hand as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy25 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Killepiyos went from part time tv man to Talbots official spokesman [emoji849] And what does that mean? Everyone at Auchinleck has a similar attitude? Is everyone at Darvel like Mr Leg-end etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 But you said they mean nothing to you!They dont personally mean much to me now no, but they’re still trophies at the only level of football open to us in the absence of a west feeder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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