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Junior football, what is the future?


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1 hour ago, redstarbenhar said:

There is precedent for reserve teams in lower leagues - Stranraer and Annan reserves play in the South of Scotland league. I suspect however this is a historical geographical quirk.

Are they allowed potential promotion ?

If so to what level ?

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21 hours ago, AlanCamelonfan said:

What is the point in the armadale bathgate pumpherstons of this world gain by staying as they are and not wanting promotion to a league full of Tayside clubs or north fife. Before someone says it is know Armadale haven't refused promotion yet but the other 2 have

I think it's more likely that we'll see a few more West Lothian clubs move over to the EoS for next season rather than face the prospect of regular trips to Dundee and beyond. It makes absolute sense.

There isn't an agreement for the ERJFA to come in at tier 6 next season, despite what Locheeboy thinks, and the boundary hasn't moved to allow Tayside clubs to join LL feeder leagues.

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54 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:

I think it's more likely that we'll see a few more West Lothian clubs move over to the EoS for next season rather than face the prospect of regular trips to Dundee and beyond. It makes absolute sense.

There isn't an agreement for the ERJFA to come in at tier 6 next season, despite what Locheeboy thinks, and the boundary hasn't moved to allow Tayside clubs to join LL feeder leagues.

Ud like to think if two or 3 move the rest will

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23 hours ago, locheeboy said:

The WRJFA & ERJFA have been accepted into the pryamid from season 2019-20 this includes the clubs based in Tayside . There is no Tayside league and no proposals to form a Tayside league. 

No they haven't. This is utter nonsense and should be treated as such. 

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7 minutes ago, glensmad said:
33 minutes ago, dwl123 said:
No they haven't. This is utter nonsense and should be treated as such. 

The email from Ian Maxwell which was sent out to the clubs by Tom Johnstone on 26th October suggests otherwise.

Was that email not discredited (as it was contradictory to a previous meeting) and a follow-up meeting has since been held?

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Was that email not discredited (as it was contradictory to a previous meeting) and a follow-up meeting has since been held?
There was a minutes from an EOS meeting in October that was circulated. It may be that you are referring to. Also Im sure the Maxwell thing wasnt from the PWG but another group.
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23 minutes ago, glensmad said:
49 minutes ago, dwl123 said:
No they haven't. This is utter nonsense and should be treated as such. 

The email from Ian Maxwell which was sent out to the clubs by Tom Johnstone on 26th October suggests otherwise.

From my understanding their will be a west l3ague it's just whether it's sjfa run or not and it all comes down to coming to the same rules that we play under not their own

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25 minutes ago, glensmad said:
51 minutes ago, dwl123 said:
No they haven't. This is utter nonsense and should be treated as such. 

The email from Ian Maxwell which was sent out to the clubs by Tom Johnstone on 26th October suggests otherwise.

Also on that Johnston said in the sun talks were on  going but if it was clear cut as been made out he'd have said so

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2 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said:
17 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said:
Was that email not discredited (as it was contradictory to a previous meeting) and a follow-up meeting has since been held?

There was a minutes from an EOS meeting in October that was circulated. It may be that you are referring to. Also Im sure the Maxwell thing wasnt from the PWG but another group.

It was from the Professional Game Board where the EoS, SoS and SJFA are not represented. They probably got an update in their agenda about the PWG goings on and Ian Maxwell probably thought it was more of a done deal than he thought.

Which is why it's nearly a month later and there's no sign of that draft statement being made public. And why the licencing embargo is over but no one's told the SJFA clubs that they can start applying since they're in the pyramid.

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It was from the Professional Game Board where the EoS, SoS and SJFA are not represented. They probably got an update in their agenda about the PWG goings on and Ian Maxwell probably thought it was more of a done deal than he thought.
Which is why it's nearly a month later and there's no sign of that draft statement being made public. And why the licencing embargo is over but no one's told the SJFA clubs that they can start applying since they're in the pyramid.
Do the LL/HL sit on the professional game board?
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1 minute ago, glensmad said:
22 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said:
Was that email not discredited (as it was contradictory to a previous meeting) and a follow-up meeting has since been held?

Not that we as a club have been informed of, as far as I am aware.

The email is not an accurate reflection of what, if anything, has been agreed and it didn't come as a result of a PWG meeting.

It refers to "agreement" and "consensus", which might be the case for WRJFA entry but it doesn't for ERJFA entry.  Nobody on the PWG has any objections to the West (and North for that matter) coming fully on board, but in the East the EoS is already the established tier 6 league.

As it stands there is zero evidence the HL/LL boundary has changed (which would require to happen for the ERJFA to come on board ie Tayside), and the EoS has not agreed to ERJFA entering as a competing league.  I don't believe any of that changed at the latest PWG meeting. In fact it has been suggested any boundary change could only happen at an AGM of the SPFL.

Nothing is a "done deal" and of course we now have SPFL3 and LL2 discussions to contend with.

 

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1 minute ago, GNU_Linux said:
5 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:
It was from the Professional Game Board where the EoS, SoS and SJFA are not represented. They probably got an update in their agenda about the PWG goings on and Ian Maxwell probably thought it was more of a done deal than he thought.
Which is why it's nearly a month later and there's no sign of that draft statement being made public. And why the licencing embargo is over but no one's told the SJFA clubs that they can start applying since they're in the pyramid.

Do the LL/HL sit on the professional game board?

They do

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as we've seen recently though there's a different set of vested interest amongst them. SPFL3 idea floated, LL2 working group and it's usually said how the HL want to be left alone.

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On 20/11/2018 at 17:42, Glenconner said:

Didn’t it say a while back on here the idea was the East of Scotland Juniors would be at the same level as the East of Scotland league and the two top teams from each would have a playoff and then play the winners of the South of Scotland.

"A while back"

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,yes, probably on 1st April.

Would be East Leagues having 2 chances of play-offs/promotion to the LL, and the West having only 1 (or none).  Not going to happen !

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7 hours ago, Robert James said:

"A while back"

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,yes, probably on 1st April.

Would be East Leagues having 2 chances of play-offs/promotion to the LL, and the West having only 1 (or none).  Not going to happen !

"a while back" was pre LL formation but the SJFA said 'naw' and things moved along.

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