Junior football, what is the future?

[Guest]

Nope, all clubs were informed from the outset that it is their responsibility to ensure all players are eligible to play in every game. They were informed to consult the sfa website and its daily/weekly updated suspension and eligibility lists.... It couldn't have been clearer.... Essentially on a Friday before a game all clubs should check for suspensions and eligibility, then pick their team from there.... In the case of Bo'ness their player was listed from July this year, its a simple case of the clubs having an oversight, nothing more... Look up the sfa site for suspensions, I can't get it to paste from my phone, you will see how clear it is. 

For me I like that the eos have made a massive decision, I'd have liked to have seen beaten semi finalists Broxburn put through and a final contested, but it shows that the association is clearly ready to implement its rules without bias. 

Edited October 26, 2018 by Guest

[Marten]

2 hours ago, Kilbowie Benches said:

If the licensing embargo is lifted and the Juniors are at tier 6 in the pyramid then why would anyone leave?

In the west & north there is still a decent chance for that to happen, true. But in the east that's a big question mark. Time will tell what will really happen...

[Jason King]

 

53 minutes ago, A.M said:

There must be some sort of communication breakdown somewhere, I cant remember any team winning a trophy in the juniors without having to play a final ?

Both these clubs should know the rules as they will be similar to the juniors regards suspensions , and should know where to look ...shouldnt they ? , it also happened to Dundonald Bluebell .

And Haddington have admitted they didnt properly check the list. Those desperate to use this as a stick to beat those clubs that have improved their lot by moving are having a mare.

 

[Jason King]

3 hours ago, Kilbowie Benches said:

If the licensing embargo is lifted and the Juniors are at tier 6 in the pyramid then why would anyone leave?

Um, thats how a pyramid works - teams at the top move upwards.

Jesus, junior thickos  

[A.M]

Just now, Jason King said:

 

And Haddington have admitted they didnt properly check the list. Those desperate to use this as a stick to beat those clubs that have improved their lot by moving are having a mare.

 

Not desperate, I only COPIED an article from EOS and posted it , what dont you like about that ?

To be honest though I dont see the improvement in a lot of the clubs you speak of.

The funny thing is that you pro pyramid guys love to talk about Junior business but take real offence when junior fans dare to mention the Eos , btw the post above were the words of the EOS , not mine.

[A.M]

5 minutes ago, Jason King said:

 

And Haddington have admitted they didnt properly check the list. Those desperate to use this as a stick to beat those clubs that have improved their lot by moving are having a mare.

 

BTW I can see the improvement of Boness , Dundonald , and Haddington, apparently when you go Senior you forget how to read .

[PRICEY]

For me I like that the eos have made a massive decision, I'd have liked to have seen beaten semi finalists Broxburn put through and a final contested, but it shows that the association is clearly ready to implement its rules without bias. 

 

So Broxburn should have been reinstated to play in a final.....against Camelon who had already beaten them in the previous round?.

[Le Tout P'ti FC]

Bump.

[heedthebaa]

4 minutes ago, Le Tout P'ti FC said:

Bump.
 

Fucks sake, if more of you joonias come across there’ll be nae cup finals next season 

[cmontheloknow]

7 hours ago, G4Mac said:

Nope, all clubs were informed from the outset that it is their responsibility to ensure all players are eligible to play in every game. They were informed to consult the sfa website and its daily/weekly updated suspension and eligibility lists.... It couldn't have been clearer.... Essentially on a Friday before a game all clubs should check for suspensions and eligibility, then pick their team from there.... In the case of Bo'ness their player was listed from July this year, its a simple case of the clubs having an oversight, nothing more... Look up the sfa site for suspensions, I can't get it to paste from my phone, you will see how clear it is. 

For me I like that the eos have made a massive decision, I'd have liked to have seen beaten semi finalists Broxburn put through and a final contested, but it shows that the association is clearly ready to implement its rules without bias. 

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish-fa/football-governance/disciplinary/player-suspensions/

[Guest]

3 hours ago, PRICEY said:

 

So Broxburn should have been reinstated to play in a final.....against Camelon who had already beaten them in the previous round?.

Yes pricey, my personal choice would be to do that. I would have liked to have had a final contested between two good footballing sides, from a purely footballing perspective, given the circumstances. Feel free to disagree. 

[PRICEY]

Yes pricey, my personal choice would be to do that. I would have liked to have had a final contested between two good footballing sides, from a purely footballing perspective, given the circumstances. Feel free to disagree. 

Are you not penalising Camelon by effectively replaying a match they won fair and square?.

[FairWeatherFan]

41 minutes ago, G4Mac said:

Yes pricey, my personal choice would be to do that. I would have liked to have had a final contested between two good footballing sides, from a purely footballing perspective, given the circumstances. Feel free to disagree. 

Maybe a shite idea but they could of made it a 2 legged final if both Camelon and Broxburn were up for it. Camelon would of gotten home field advantage and been a goal up. 

Edited October 26, 2018 by FairWeatherFan

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, PRICEY said:

 

Are you not penalising Camelon by effectively replaying a match they won fair and square?.

 

As I said, feel free to disagree. That was only my own personal view. 

Edited October 26, 2018 by Guest

[glasgow-sheep]

15 hours ago, Le Tout P'ti FC said:

Bump.
 

So West Juniors, East Juniors, EoSL and SoSL all at tier 6?

That seems a bit stupid.  Surely just delaying the inevitable mergers further down the line?  Seems that all it is doing is preserving a handful of posts in the Juniors Governing body.

And no indication of how they will be sorting out the River Tay issue or what they are doing with the Northern Juniors.

[FairWeatherFan]

10 minutes ago, glasgow-sheep said:

So West Juniors, East Juniors, EoSL and SoSL all at tier 6?

That seems a bit stupid.  Surely just delaying the inevitable mergers further down the line?  Seems that all it is doing is preserving a handful of posts in the Juniors Governing body.

And no indication of how they will be sorting out the River Tay issue or what they are doing with the Northern Juniors.

It mentions existing West and East Region Leagues with connectivity to the Lowland League. So the HL/LL boundary is likely to change. The statement also appears to have been written up following a meeting of the Professional Game Board rather than the Non-Professional Game Board or Pyramid Working Group.

Which suggests the majority of the SPFL, Highland and Lowland are okay with the HL/LL boundary being changed.

 

[Sergeant Wilson]

I've read that email a few times now. Does anyone else see a bit of wriggle room to amalgamate in the East?

[Robert James]

On 17/10/2018 at 16:00, LongTimeLurker said:

It's not all that different from what happened in England when the Southern and Isthmian Leagues wound up having overlapping catchments after the Isthmian league joined despite not being involved as a feeder initially when the Alliance Premier was formed. The good thing is that an all in pyramid finally appears to be happening. Hopefully the junior cup will be rejigged to be all in for tier 6 and below.

Yes initially there were 'historic' overlapping catchment areas, but in the main this is currently not the case.  This is because the English FA (re)allocates clubs annually, as it controls the pyramid (and also reviews its structure periodically), moving clubs as appropriate given their location. There are appeal rights to the Football Association, which makes the final decision. about which promoted/relegated clubs, play in which league each season. If the SJFA retains a role in the Scottish pyramid, there will be chaos, especially in the East.

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Edited October 31, 2018 by Robert James
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[Deanburn Dave]

If there are to be changes to tier6 then amalgamation in the East will have to happen. Ridiculous to think the other areas would tolerate 2 avenues to progress in the East. The only question is when the merge of the East Juniors and the EoSFL will happen and what the arrangements would be.

[Beenzon-Toste]

If there are to be changes to tier6 then amalgamation in the East will have to happen. Ridiculous to think the other areas would tolerate 2 avenues to progress in the East. The only question is when the merge of the East Juniors and the EoSFL will happen and what the arrangements would be.

All that needs to happen is for the former members of the ERSJFA to rejoin the Juniors and the EOSFL will end up back on the edge of the abyss they were staring into before the defectors saved them from extinction.
The feed into the LL will then be a true Pyramid of East and West.