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One Tayside club did apply to join the EOS when the large exodus took place back in 2018. They were told that they wouldn't be considered for the EOS due to geography. It's never been confirmed who that club were, but rumours are strong that Carnoustie were the ones trying to apply. Luncarty are obviously north of the line, but only just. It's much easier to get to there from the M90 than to Tayside clubs like Carnoustie. I highly doubt that any Dundee/Angus sides would be accepted if they tried.

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8 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

Double check your cards, someone must have won Tayside bingo by now.

Every few months we have the same discussion. 

"Luncarty set a precedent". No they didn't. 

"teams from North of the Tay are in limbo as they can't apply to the EOS". No they're not and yes they can. 

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20 minutes ago, Marten said:

...I highly doubt that any Dundee/Angus sides would be accepted if they tried.

They should try again and put it to the test. I was surprised that they accepted Luncarty apparently with very little opposition on a travel sort of basis.

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23 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

They should try again and put it to the test. I was surprised that they accepted Luncarty apparently with very little opposition on a travel sort of basis.

But as already posted luncarty isnt much further than jeanfield.

I think ideally if tayside was to be lowland league that tayside would be a league and add north fife and perth teams to tayside.

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On 23/04/2018 at 22:14, Dev said:

This is interesting.

“Any club which isn't a Full Member of the SFA can play in any league that it chooses. All clubs in Scotland are either Full Members (and Licenced) and have SFA voting powers or they are Registered Members (Not Licenced) which have no voting powers. There are only a few Full Member clubs below the Highland and Lowland Leagues, and some are in the EoS and the SoS, with other in the SJFA plus Glasgow Uni and Golspie. ALL of the remainder are Registered Members, including the vast majority of SJFA, EoS and SoS leagues.
You require a current Licence in order to be promoted to the SPFL or to the Highland and Lowland Leagues. “

SFA ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION (Extracts)


4. MEMBERS
4.1 The aggregate number of full members of the Scottish FA shall be restricted to 200 and the Board may from time to time register an increase of such members within that limit.
4.2 Members shall be of two classes:- full members and registered members.

6. APPLICATION AND FEES

6.1 Clubs ................................ may be admitted as registered members or full members, subject to the provisions of Articles 6.2 to 6.7 (both inclusive).
6.2 A club ............................... shall be admitted as a registered member automatically by reason of its being admitted as a member of an Affiliated Association or an Affiliated National Association, .............................................................. . A registered member may apply at any time to become a full member.
6.3 .................................................................. No application for full membership of the Scottish FA shall be granted by the Board unless the Licensing Committee confirms to the Board that the applicant, if it is a club, has satisfied the minimum criteria as prescribed within the Club Licensing Procedures.
6.6 All applications for full membership shall be considered and decided by the Board and the Board’s
 decision on the matter shall be final.

I posted this on 23rd April, 2018.

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Lifted from FitbaNorth as I couldn't see it posted on their social media, Buckie Rovers have gone into abeyance for 2020-21. The usual struggles of a small aging committee that has been exacerbated by COVID.

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Good evening folks
Just to keep you all in the loop.
As of this week,we regret to inform everyone that Buckie Rovers has came to a decision to take a season in abeyance,meaning we have withdrawn the club from the junior league until next season 2021/22..
This is not something that we wanted to do and it was a tough call to make as it leaves a cracking squad of players without a team.
The Covid restrictions has not helped matters and has affected the whole community,but the main reason is due to insufficient committee members.
Over the years we have been fortunate to have a good,hard working committee in place,who have all played a fantastic part in the running and upkeep of the club.However due to various reasons of age,health and family committments we have dwindled down to only one remaining member.The last 3 years AGM's has not attracted any new committee members,and in the past few months our plea in the local paper and FB page for help to come forward unfortunately has not had any response.The club simply cannot run without a proper committee in place.

As things stand there is no guarantee when the junior league will resume,if it even starts at all.
Lets hope next season we can get some new members involved and get the club back into the junior league where it belongs.
We will keep this page going and I will continue to update our situation and be available for any correspondence in relation to the club.

Thank you to everyone who has came along and supported the club and helped us out along the way during our fund raising events.

Thank you to all our committee who have been involved with the club and worked long and hard to maintain the club and organise our fundraising events.

Special thanks to Alan Fraser,the clubs honorary member and lifelong Rovers superfan for all he has done for the club.

Finally a huge thank you to our players and coaches for your dedication and committment to the club,as without you lads there would be no Buckie Rovers at all.We have been fortunate to have an excellent squad of lads who turn up week in week out and give 100% every single time.
All the best to you lads and hope to see you all back next season
I sincerely hope you all get signed up for this coming season as each and every one of you will be an asset to any team.
Stay safe

Thank you again
Grant.
Chairman

 

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31 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

Lifted from FitbaNorth as I couldn't see it posted on their social media, Buckie Rovers have gone into abeyance for 2020-21. The usual struggles of a small aging committee that has been exacerbated by COVID.

 

Sad news. Hope they come back stronger. Had a brilliant day up there in the SJC about 10 years ago.

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As I've mentioned before, it's this lack of help that's killing clubs-  easy to expect everything done for you, just turn up for the game. Lose the volunteers, you lose the clubs, simple as that eh. Personally I find it hard, as I'd run (secretary etc) and played for the one club all my life, so I understand what these clubs go through.

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There were rumblings after the all in at the same tier Conferences never materialised. I imagine this sort of talk will die down again. You never know though.

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14 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

There were rumblings after the all in at the same tier Conferences never materialised. I imagine this sort of talk will die down again. You never know though.

Let them go it will be there loss

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16 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said:

Let them go it will be there loss

Doubt it will get that far. Its the same sort of grumbling that happened in certain circles about going back to the East Region during the 2018-19 season. Exacerbated this time around due to COVID.

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18 hours ago, Burnieman said:

Is that Hurlford in last seasons Junior Cup Final now?

Bring it on.

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Update from up North (c/o Montrose Roselea fb):

There are four clubs who do not wish to play football without the use of changing facilities - they are Dufftown, Fraserburgh United, Montrose Roselea and Spey Valley United.
With Buckie Rovers going into abeyance that leaves us with 28 clubs.
We have split the 28 clubs into four groups of 7 geographically.
North - Burghead Thistle, Deveronside, Forres Thistle, Islavale, Nairn St Ninian, New Elgin and Whitehills
Banff / Buchan - Buchanhaven Hearts, Colony Park, Cruden Bay, Ellon United, Longside, Maud, Rothie Rovers
Aberdeen City (south) - Aberdeen University, Banchory St Ternan, Banks o' Dee, Culter, Glentanar, Stonehaven and Sunnybank
Aberdeen City (north) - Aberdeen East End, Bridge of Don Thistle, Dyce Juniors, Hall Russell United, Hermes, Newmachar United and Stoneywood Parkvale
The proposal is for the season to start with a Grill League Cup style format comprising of eight groups. Each geographical section will have a group of 4 and a group of 3 and will play each other home and away. The winners of the groups will go into a knock-out tournament which hopefully will be completed later in the season once travel restrictions are eased.
Following the completion of grill cup group matches, then we will be looking to play league matches based on your geographical section. You will play each other home and away and the winners and runners up of each geographical section will then go on to play in play-offs to see who is the eventual winner of the North Region and will represent the Association in the Scottish Cup.
 
There will be no promotion or relegation, and so (hopefully) when things go back to normal next season, the league set up will be as it was before we stopped playing in March.
Should any club that has indicated that they dont want to play football have a change of heart, they will need to inform the Association by the 30th January 2021 to be able to compete in the league format. This will give them the chance to catch up on their fixtures by the end of the season.

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On ‎04‎/‎02‎/‎2020 at 14:19, LongTimeLurker said:

Looks that way. In the TAJ version of events the meeting ends with Iain McQueen asking the SFA what happens next three times. The two SJFA blazers at the meeting appear to have been gobsmacked that the PWG would simply be wrapped up at that point, because it provides the time and clarity needed for a new west division/league to be launched by next season and leaves them completely out of the loop on the pyramid.

f**k the SFA

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On ‎24‎/‎03‎/‎2020 at 17:35, Born To Run said:

I’ve held my tongue for a while on this thread, but it’s probably worth making a few things clear.

I was in attendance at the initial WoS meeting, and what has happened since (including the conference meeting yesterday) is exactly what was intended. Good faith on both sides. I have no idea why some continue to have a go at the WRSJFA.

The WoS will be a members-run group series of leagues like their counterparts in the East. Using a conference arrangement means that we have a fair playing field to start with teams (ex-Junior and other) finding their level.

Clubs choosing to retain SJFA membership is not an issue. They’ll act in the same manner as the Fife FA etc in practice. There is no “hostile takeover” to worry about - indeed, the SJFA have had to commit to changes allowing the West Region sides to play in the Junior Cup (around scheduling mainly).

In order to facilitate this proposal, the West Region put through the necessary changes in the time between both meetings. Gordon Ronney has been pragmatic in reaching this conclusion, and then kept his promises.

In my view, it’s a great compromise. We should be happy that the biggest pyramid logjam is finally going to be cleared, leaving the easier issues in the North and East to sort.

There is a bigger issue coming Pyramid-wise to focus on regardless. Let’s just say people wouldn’t be impressed with the SFA view on where their League 2 side should go if relegated...

That went well

f**k the SFA

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