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1 hour ago, cmontheloknow said:

Great Britain: Sco, Eng Wal (it's the island)

United Kingdom Sco, Eng, NI, Wales

British Isles: All of the above + ROI

British Islands: All of the above + Channel Islands

 

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On 09/05/2020 at 11:09, Dev said:

Incomplete playing seasons are very rare but they have happened, under exceptional circumstances, in the past within the UK/NI. Think of War-time situations, Foot-and-Mouth.

The Football Associations in the UK/NI, understandably, didn't consider it necessary to build in provisions for what happens when seasons are terminated early through no fault of the organisations involved. This is now showing to have been a mistake. This early close-down of a season situation could happen again - even in 2020/21.

Rules need to be brought in by the SFA and their equivalents elsewhere in UK/NI so that everyone knows where they stand if the worst re-occurs.

In the mean-time  the FA's need to accept responsibility for their own pyramids. Pyramids are a form of binding contractual arrangement after all and that means that movement has to continue, thus avoiding a constraint of trade situation, even if it is only upwards i.e. no relegations unless an individual club desires to take relegation.  

Imbalances due to certain divisions/leagues gaining one or two extra clubs to be ironed out at the end of the next full season via additional, pre-agreed relegations.

For those still interested in this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminology_of_the_British_Isles (Extract)

·        The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, usually shortened to the United Kingdom (abbreviation UK),[7] is the sovereign state comprising Great Britain plus Northern Ireland since 1927. (The Partition of Ireland took place in 1922, but the consequent change in the official title of the UK was only made by Act of Parliament five years later.) The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is often shortened to Britain, even on official websites,[16][17] where such use is described as "informal".[18][15] A proposal to rename the political entity as the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ulster" was formally recommended by civil servants to the Cabinet in 1949 but ultimately rejected.[19]

·        The historical United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland was Great Britain plus Ireland, for the period 1801 to 1922, although the name change after the secession of the Irish Free State only took place in 1927.

N.B.: While "United Kingdom" is normally abbreviated UK, the official ISO 3166 two-letter country code is GB and the three letter code is GBR (Ukraine has the two letter code UA and the three letter code UKR). Due to a pre-existing convention originating in the UK's JANET academic computer network,[20] the UK's Internet top-level domain is .uk, a break from the TCP/IP practice of following ISO 3166 (a .gb domain has also been used to a limited extent in the past but is now defunct). GB is also used on car number plates to indicate the United Kingdom.

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3 hours ago, cmontheloknow said:

Great Britain: Sco, Eng Wal (it's the island)

United Kingdom Sco, Eng, NI, Wales

British Isles: All of the above + ROI

British Islands: All of the above + Channel Islands

 

GB is the island, plus all the offshore isllands.

And you've forgotten the Isle of Man.

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11 minutes ago, Dev said:

For those still interested in this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminology_of_the_British_Isles (Extract)

·        The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, usually shortened to the United Kingdom (abbreviation UK),[7] is the sovereign state comprising Great Britain plus Northern Ireland since 1927. (The Partition of Ireland took place in 1922, but the consequent change in the official title of the UK was only made by Act of Parliament five years later.) The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is often shortened to Britain, even on official websites,[16][17] where such use is described as "informal".[18][15] A proposal to rename the political entity as the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ulster" was formally recommended by civil servants to the Cabinet in 1949 but ultimately rejected.[19]

 

·        The historical United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland was Great Britain plus Ireland, for the period 1801 to 1922, although the name change after the secession of the Irish Free State only took place in 1927.

 

N.B.: While "United Kingdom" is normally abbreviated UK, the official ISO 3166 two-letter country code is GB and the three letter code is GBR (Ukraine has the two letter code UA and the three letter code UKR). Due to a pre-existing convention originating in the UK's JANET academic computer network,[20] the UK's Internet top-level domain is .uk, a break from the TCP/IP practice of following ISO 3166 (a .gb domain has also been used to a limited extent in the past but is now defunct). GB is also used on car number plates to indicate the United Kingdom.

 

That's you telt!

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1 hour ago, Stag Nation said:

GB is the island, plus all the offshore isllands.

And you've forgotten the Isle of Man.

GB is the island, the offshores are not strictly GB as GB is the island. You are referring to the Kingdom of Great Britiain, I was not.

I haven't 'forgotten' IOM, really wasn't going to get into that level of detail but yes part of British Islands not not UK.

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54 minutes ago, gogsy said:

Meanwhile that's ex junior  Bo'ness confirmed as promoted  subject to getting licence rubberstamped.

Is that for definite ? Good luck to them if they've worked hard and got everything in place. Went there v Luncarty in Feb, have they had to do anything to the ground at all ? Was another cracking old Scottish ground for me to see !

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22 hours ago, Stag Nation said:

GB is the island, plus all the offshore isllands.

And you've forgotten the Isle of Man.

True, and the Isle of Man FC has applied to join the North West Counties League, thereby entering the English pyramid (if their application is accepted) for 2020/21.

They are following the steps taken previously by  Guernsey ('Lions') FC, and by Jersey Bulls FC, when they joined the pyramid.

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A wee bit off track but here's a good wee video showing the differences between the terminology of the British Isles
 


I'm wondering if Jersey and IoM will have the same problems Guernsey have had in recent years and their best local players dwindling away from the club to remain focused on the domestic league. IoM might not have quite the same travel difficulties the Channel Islands teams have.

Woulda been some laugh if IoM had moved to the WoSFL

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45 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

A wee bit off track but here's a good wee video showing the differences between the terminology of the British Isles
 


I'm wondering if Jersey and IoM will have the same problems Guernsey have had in recent years and their best local players dwindling away from the club to remain focused on the domestic league. IoM might not have quite the same travel difficulties the Channel Islands teams have.

Woulda been some laugh if IoM had moved to the WoSFL

IoM could play in the Northern Lighthouse Board league with Girvan, Eyemouth, Oban Saints, Lewis and Harris FC, Orkney, Shetland and Craigroyston to represent 84 George Street. 

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12 hours ago, ShrimpLok said:

IoM could play in the Northern Lighthouse Board league with Girvan, Eyemouth, Oban Saints, Lewis and Harris FC, Orkney, Shetland and Craigroyston to represent 84 George Street. 

I,ve just been informed that late applications to join the "NLBL" have been submitted on behalf of Skye United  and Anglesey Rovers ?

Unfortunately both clubs missed the 1st April deadline, and have lodged an appeal with FIFA.

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From their twitter:

 

This morning, like all other clubs in the old West Region, we were invited to retain membership of the SJFA. We decided against it. This is a new beginning for us and while that means we won't be eligible to enter the Scottish Junior Cup, we're comfortable with our decision.
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16 minutes ago, lowenan said:

From their twitter:

 

This morning, like all other clubs in the old West Region, we were invited to retain membership of the SJFA. We decided against it. This is a new beginning for us and while that means we won't be eligible to enter the Scottish Junior Cup, we're comfortable with our decision.

Are Maryhill one of the ten teams who had already declined to renew their membership or one of the 53 who were believed to be renewing? 

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1 minute ago, patriot1 said:

Are Maryhill one of the ten teams who had already declined to renew their membership or one of the 53 who were believed to be renewing? 

Nope - final decision was only made recently, although the wind's been heading in that direction for some time.

I think whoever quoted the 53/63 staying in the SJFA has just pulled a guesstimate figure out of their arse TBH...certainly no-one asked us.

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9 minutes ago, Andy groundhopper said:

If some West region clubs retained sjfa membership, would they have amateur clubs associated to them ?  Otherwise as they are going senior, why would they wish to retain membership to the sjfa ?  Is it just the Junior Cup entry ? 

Just Junior Cup entry.

The Junior Cup is going to be an easier sell as a big game to supporters due to the name value & tradition it holds.

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