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The current list of 30 clubs that propose to join the WoSFL:


1. Clydebank (SJFA West Region Premiership)

2. Kilwinning Rangers (SJFA West Region Premiership)

3. Rutherglen Glencairn (SJFA West Region Premiership)

4. Bellshill Athletic (SJFA West League One)

5. Drumchapel United (Central Scottish Amateur Premier Division)

6. Neilston Juniors (SJFA West Region Championship)

7. Maryhill (SJFA West League One)

8. Kello Rovers (SJFA West League One)

9. Blantyre Victoria (SJFA West Region Championship)

10. Kirkintilloch Rob Roy (SJFA West Region Premiership)

11. Vale of Clyde (SJFA West League Two)

12. Renfrew (SJFA West Region Championship)

13. Royal Albert (SJFA West League One)

14. Arthurlie (SJFA West Region Championship)

15. Newmains United (SJFA West League Two)

16. Kilsyth Rangers (SJFA West Region Championship)

17. Whitletts Victoria (SJFA West Region Championship)

18. Gartcairn Juniors (SJFA West Region Championship)

19. Cambuslang Rangers  (SJFA West Region Championship)

20. Cumbernauld United (SJFA West Region Championship)

21. Glasgow Perthshire (SJFA West League One)

22. Ashfield (SJFA West League Two)

23. Petershill (SJFA West Region Championship)

24. Greenock Juniors (SJFA West League One)

25. Larkhall Thistle (SJFA West League One)

26. Port Glasgow Juniors (SJFA West League One)

27. Pollok (SJFA West Region Premiership)

28. Darvel Juniors (SJFA West Region Championship)

29. Vale of Leven (SJFA West League Two)

30. Glenafton Athletic (SJFA West Region Premiership)

 

More applicants to follow to be added to the growing list!

Edited by Pyramidic

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2 minutes ago, RedEd said:

For applications to WoS. Not sure that's the case for EoS.

Good point - had assumed that had been extended too, but come to think of it there's no real reason beyond coronavirus.

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3 hours ago, cmontheloknow said:

I think what this month is increasingly teaching me is that life is too short for some things. Thanks Marten for replying there! If 'social distancing' is going to continue into the autumn, it will be a blessed relief when the football restarts!

Perhaps the West Lothian Junior clubs have taken the meaning of 'social distancing' a little bit too literally.....

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You're going to have clubs, or officials of clubs, who were quite dismissive of the LL. ("Eff the Lowland League" for instance at a WR meeting). Those clubs will still be reluctantly applying but won't be putting it out in public. It will only be known after the deadline has passed.

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37 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

Good point - had assumed that had been extended too, but come to think of it there's no real reason beyond coronavirus.

It's also not clear that staying in the SJFA is OK in that context given it is the LL rather than the EoS that are driving things in the west. Hopefully, the West Lothian juniors put applications in by the 31st. Would hate to think that it's still a case of a bitter Blackburn vs the rest divide at the Bathgate-Armadale-Whitburn-Fauldhouse end of the county.

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1 hour ago, archieb said:

Why are you proliferating this fake assertion when it has been categorically denied umpteen times that any applicant clubs will be rejected?

My understanding is that not all clubs which, apparently, expressed interest in joining the new league were West Juniors or, indeed, Juniors.

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12 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

It's also not clear that staying in the SJFA is OK in that context given it is the LL rather than the EoS that are driving things in the west. Hopefully, the West Lothian juniors put applications in by the 31st. Would hate to think that it's still a case of a bitter Blackburn vs the rest divide at the Bathgate-Armadale-Whitburn-Fauldhouse end of the county.

Good point.

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It's also not clear that staying in the SJFA is OK in that context given it is the LL rather than the EoS that are driving things in the west. Hopefully, the West Lothian juniors put applications in by the 31st. Would hate to think that it's still a case of a bitter Blackburn vs the rest divide at the Bathgate-Armadale-Whitburn-Fauldhouse end of the county.
Bitter? Bitter about what exactly?

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16 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

It's also not clear that staying in the SJFA is OK in that context given it is the LL rather than the EoS that are driving things in the west. Hopefully, the West Lothian juniors put applications in by the 31st. Would hate to think that it's still a case of a bitter Blackburn vs the rest divide at the Bathgate-Armadale-Whitburn-Fauldhouse end of the county.

What's with the bitter Blackburn line?

As for staying in the SJFA, its still not clear if its okay with the rest of the regions if the likes of the North are only just asking their members.

The EoSFL had SCFA members for years. It could technically do the same with SJFA members. They still need to compete in the League, South Challenge Cup and League Cup with the possibility of the Scottish Cup being added once any of them become members of the SFA.

If I was a member of the EoSFL though, I would want any new league members to play in the same competitions.

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10 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

Am I right in thinking there were 48 junior expressions of interest and 52 in total from all grades?

By the time of the meeting on 12th March there had been 52 EOIs in total.

47 were from WRSJFA members, ONE amateur.

I have no information about who the other 4 clubs were.

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Hoss from Newton made a suggestion about some South sides.

On other matters, the Scottish Junior Cup and Alex Jack Cup provide direct/indirect access to the big cup. Could it be that the Junior Cup direct place is lost or clubs have to choose between these two competitions (assuming Alba Cup remains exclusively SoS)?

 

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Am I right in thinking there were 48 junior expressions of interest and 52 in total from all grades?
I heard "46 or 47 junior teams" out of 52.

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7 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said:

Hoss from Newton made a suggestion about some South sides.

On other matters, the Scottish Junior Cup and Alex Jack Cup provide direct/indirect access to the big cup. Could it be that the Junior Cup direct place is lost or clubs have to choose between these two competitions (assuming Alba Cup remains exclusively SoS)?

 

There has meant to be a motion being considered by the SFA over removing all qualifiers. Which does become a little easier to put through if 2019-20 is basically voided and a 2020-21 Scottish Cup has to be run with only the South & East Cup Winners Shield quaifier in it. As enough SFA member clubs might not feel they're missing anything.

What's been said about the Alex Jack Cup? Since it was mentioned in the interview by the Kilwinning Rangers chairman and right now is just an EoS competition. In the same way that the Alba Cup is just an SoS competition. I would of thought it a better fit to try and have the WoSFL/SoSFL in the Alba Cup so that the South & East Cup Winners Shield would be a bit more of an event.

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On 18/02/2020 at 00:01, TheDemon said:

So from what i'm hearing, we have at least 5 South of Scotland teams interested; Bonnyton, Threave, Newton, Saints and Mids. 

This is the post Cmontheloknow was referring to. The poster is linked to Heston.

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7 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

This is the post Cmontheloknow was referring to. The poster is linked to Heston.

No it is not the poster I was referring to, I was referring to Hoss from Newton Stewart. I have a vague recollection of him saying something similar but I lose track!

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1 hour ago, craigkillie said:

The date was extended to 7th April, was it not?

CLARIFICATION

The closing date for applications to the West of Scotland Football League has been extended to the 7th April

The closing date for applications to the East of Scotland Football League is still the 31st March (according to its website

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4 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said:

No it is not the poster I was referring to, I was referring to Hoss from Newton Stewart. I have a vague recollection of him saying something similar but I lose track!

Regardless given the talk about geographical integrity  in one of the early WoS related press releases that was issued by the LL, I suspect it's only Bonnyton that are likely to get in, if they do apply and that list probably does explain how there could be 52.

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1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said:

It's also not clear that staying in the SJFA is OK in that context given it is the LL rather than the EoS that are driving things in the west. Hopefully, the West Lothian juniors put applications in by the 31st. Would hate to think that it's still a case of a bitter Blackburn vs the rest divide at the Bathgate-Armadale-Whitburn-Fauldhouse end of the county.

Absolutely no bitterness from anyone I know  from all the West Lothian clubs. Still have good friends at all the clubs and total respect for everyone at all the clubs. Yes it would be great to be playing local rivals competitively but at the same time it's for each club to decide what they do. 

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Mids don't cause much of a conflict in geographical integrity and are pretty close to all the Lanarkshire teams. Ultimately a merger between SoS and WoS could be a viable destination- provided there was regionalisation at the lowest tier.

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