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17 minutes ago, AML67 said:

As has been stated many times during this topic you yet again assume that because the Juniors have finally and belatedly ( in some cases possibly reluctantly ) jumped on the bandwagon and have decided to join the Pyramid set up you somehow feel they can simply supersede and jump the queue in front of admittedly smaller Clubs who struggled for years to gain and keep meeting the License criteria against the odds in many cases ! These licensed teams in the South don’t have the financial muscle of your aforementioned Clubs and many , many others in the East and the new West but that doesn’t give anyone the right to overlook the incredible efforts from the respective teams trying to survive on average crowds and limited sponsorship in comparison and I for one as someone involved with such a Club feel they thoroughly deserve their opportunity to remain at Tier 6. What’s your real issue anyway because as you’re aware the chances of the SOSFL winners overcoming either the East or West in a play off are minimal at best if not borderline impossible but presumably you’d rather have multiple teams from the Central belt regions being given the opportunity to succeed at the expense of those that’s entire history lies in Senior football ? 

Merge the South and West structures and let teams find their level within that. If they want to have a regional South league which covers a far smaller percentage of the population then that's fine. It shouldn't be at tier 6 though.

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1 hour ago, Pyramidic said:

Optimism at Gartcairn:

Gartcairn boss West of Scotland League dream to join Airdrie and Albion Rovers in the SPFL

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/gartcairn-boss-west-scotland-league-21792523

 

Always surprised me Gartcairn went to the juniors and not the LL when they moved "up"

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I created this and posted it on the Coronavirus and the Scottish Championship thread but some here might want a look at it. Presuming the season is abandoned I decided to do 16 conferences of 17 in the Scottish league so we can start afresh like the East of Scotland did. Here’s how it turned out if we took it by current league position



Celtic

Stranraer
Cove Rangers

Gala Fairydean

Huntly

Dunbar United

Wigtown & Bladnoch     

Invergordon 

Kilwinning Rangers

Tayport

Bathgate Thistle

Burghead Thistle

Cumbernauld United

Forfar Albion

Linlithgow Rose Community

Muirkirk Juniors

Maybole Juniors

 

Rangers

Forfar Athletic

Edinburgh City

Deveronvale

Berwick Rangers

Upper Annandale           

Crossgates Primrose 

Craigroyston  

Carnoustie Panmure

Beith Juniors

Montrose Roselea

Aberdeen University JFC

Blairgowrie Juniors

Whitletts Victoria

Buchanhaven Hearts

Yoker Athletic

Johnstone Burgh

 

Motherwell

Peterhead

Elgin City

University of Stirling

Strathspey Thistle

Linlithgow Rose

Lochmaben       

Arniston Rangers
Livingston United

Inverness

Bunillidh

Forres Thistle

Newburgh

Glentanar J.F.C.

Whitehills J.F.C.

Vale of Leven

Ashfield

 

Aberdeen

Clyde

Cowdenbeath

Wick Academy

Gretna 2008

Lochar Thistle

Sauchie Juniors

Peebles Rovers  

Banks O'Dee

Bridge of Don Thistle

Kilbirnie Ladeside

Sunnybank

Stonehaven

Buckie Rovers

Kilsyth Rangers

Royal Albert

Thorniewood United

 

Livingston

Dumbarton

Queen's Park

Cumbernauld Colts

Turriff United

Jeanfield Swifts 

Creetown

Easthouses Lily MW 

Thurso 

Fauldhouse United

Kirriemuir Thistle

Rosyth

Newmachar United JFC

Syngenta

Bo'ness United Junior

East Kilbride Thistle

Forth Wanderers

 

Hibernian

East Fife

Stirling Albion

Keith

Edinburgh University

St Cuthbert Wanderers

Blackburn United 

Ormiston  

Pollok

Luncarty

Harthill Royal

Dundee East Craigie

Blantyre Victoria

Coupar Angus

Dalry Thistle

Wishaw Juniors

Annbank United

 

St Johnstone

Montrose

Annan Athletic

Caledonian Braves

Clachnacuddin

Musselburgh Athletic

Whitehill Welfare

Hawick Royal Albert United  

Broughty Athletic

Glenafton Athletic

Deveronside

Darvel Juniors

Dundee Violet

Neilston Juniors

West Calder United

Kello Rovers                      

Vale of Clyde

 

Kilmarnock

Airdrieonians

Stenhousemuir

Nairn County

Dalbeattie Star

Heston Rovers

Newtongrange Star  

Burntisland Shipyard  

Pumpherston

Halkirk Utd

Bonar Bridge 

Kirkintilloch Rob Roy

Stoneyburn       

Cruden Bay

Gartcairn

Maryhill

St. Anthony's

 

St Mirren

Falkirk

Albion Rovers

East Kilbride

Lossiemouth

Penicuik Athletic

Lothian Thistle Hutchison Vale

Tweedmouth Rangers 

Culter

Dyce

Scone Thistle

Rutherglen Glencairn

Fraserburgh United

Dufftown J.F.C.

Petershill

Girvan

Saltcoats Victoria

 

Ross County

Raith Rovers

Brechin City       

Forres Mechanics

Vale of Leithen 

Nithsdale Wanderers    

Tynecastle  

Oakley United  

Golspie

Armadale Thistle

Kennoway Star Hearts

Maud

Islavale

Sauchie Juniors Community

St. Roch's

Bellshill Athletic

Newmains United

 

Hamilton Academical

Partick Thistle

Brora Rangers

Civil Service Strollers

Fort William 

Dundonald Bluebell 

Leith Athletic  

Coldstream  

Auchinleck Talbot

Dundee North End         

Aberdeen East End

Benburb

Renfrew

Lochee Harp

Cambuslang Rangers

Larkhall Thistle

Lugar Boswell Thistle

 

Heart of Midlothian

Queen of the South

Kelty Hearts

Formartine United

Bo'ness United

Newton Stewart             

Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts  

St Andrews United  

Lochee United

Clydebank

Rossvale

Ellon United

Arbroath Victoria

Arthurlie

Craigmark Burntonians

Glasgow Perthshire

Ardeer Thistle

 

Dundee United

Alloa Athletic

Inverurie Loco Works

The Spartans

Threave Rovers

Camelon Juniors 

Dunipace  

Dalkeith Thistle  

Whitburn Juniors

Orkney

Forfar West End

Troon

Kirkcaldy & Dysart

Spey Valley United

Irvine Victoria

Carluke Rovers

Glasgow Uni

 

Inverness Caledonian Thistle

Greenock Morton

Bonnyrigg Rose

Buckie Thistle

Broxburn Athletic 

Mid Annandale

Glenrothes  

Kinnoull FC  

Hermes

Nairn St. Ninian

Lochore Welfare

Hall Russell United

Longside

Stoneywood-Parkvale

Ardrossan Winton Rovers

Greenock Juniors

Drumchapel PYM

 

Dundee

Arbroath

Fraserburgh

BSC Glasgow                     

Abbey Vale        

Tranent Juniors  

Heriot Watt University  

Preston Athletic  

St. Duthus

Thornton Hibs

Colony Park JFC

Hurlford United

New Elgin

Lochgelly Albert

Lanark United

Lesmahagow Juniors

Oban Saints

 

Ayr United

Dunfermline

East Stirlingshire

Rothes

Hill of Beath Hawthorn

Bonnyton Thistle

Edinburgh United  

Haddington Athletic  

Irvine Meadow XI

Dundee Downfield

Largs Thistle

Banchory St. Ternan

Shotts Bon Accord

Brechin Victoria

Shettleston

Port Glasgow Juniors

Strathclyde Uni

I presumed Glasgow Uni are applying to the WoS and added in Oban and Strath Uni to make it an even amount but you get the jist

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1 hour ago, Pyramidic said:

The current list of 48 clubs that propose to join the WoSFL:


1. Clydebank (SJFA West Region Premiership)

2. Kilwinning Rangers (SJFA West Region Premiership)

3. Rutherglen Glencairn (SJFA West Region Premiership)

4. Bellshill Athletic (SJFA West League One)

5. Drumchapel United (Central Scottish Amateur Premier Division)

6. Neilston Juniors (SJFA West Region Championship)

7. Maryhill (SJFA West League One)

8. Kello Rovers (SJFA West League One)

9. Blantyre Victoria (SJFA West Region Championship)

10. Kirkintilloch Rob Roy (SJFA West Region Premiership)

11. Vale of Clyde (SJFA West League Two)

12. Renfrew (SJFA West Region Championship)

13. Royal Albert (SJFA West League One)

14. Arthurlie (SJFA West Region Championship)

15. Newmains United (SJFA West League Two)

16. Kilsyth Rangers (SJFA West Region Championship)

17. Whitletts Victoria (SJFA West Region Championship)

18. Gartcairn Juniors (SJFA West Region Championship)

19. Cambuslang Rangers  (SJFA West Region Championship)

20. Cumbernauld United (SJFA West Region Championship)

21. Glasgow Perthshire (SJFA West League One)

22. Ashfield (SJFA West League Two)

23. Petershill (SJFA West Region Championship)

24. Greenock Juniors (SJFA West League One)

25. Larkhall Thistle (SJFA West League One)

26. Port Glasgow Juniors (SJFA West League One)

27. Pollok (SJFA West Region Premiership)

28. Darvel Juniors (SJFA West Region Championship)

29. Vale of Leven (SJFA West League Two)

30. Glenafton Athletic (SJFA West Region Premiership)

31. Johnstone Burgh (SJFA West League Two)

32. Auchinleck Talbot (SJFA West Region Premiership)

33. Largs Thistle (SJFA West Region Premiership)

34. Kilbirnie Ladeside (SJFA West Region Premiership)

35. Troon (SJFA West Region Premiership)

36. Irvine Meadow XI (SJFA West Region Premiership)

37. Beith Juniors (SJFA West Region Premiership) 

38. Shotts Bon Accord (SJFA West Region Championship)

39.  Forth Wanderers (SJFA West League Two)

40. Muirkirk Juniors (SJFA West League Two)

41. Benburb (SJFA West Region Premiership)  

42. Shettleston (SJFA West League One)

43. Irvine Victoria (SJFA West Region Championship)

44. Dalry Thistle (SJFA West Region Championship)

45. Cumnock Juniors (SJFA West Region Premiership)

46. Girvan (SJFA West League One)

47. Wishaw Juniors (SJFA West League One)

48. Rossvale (SJFA West Region Premiership)


SJFA West Region Premiership (15 clubs)

Auchinleck Talbot; Beith Juniors; Benburb; Clydebank; Cumnock Juniors; Glenafton Athletic; Hurlford United; Irvine Meadow; Kilbirnie Ladeside; Kilwinning Rangers; Kirkintilloch Rob Roy; Largs Thistle; Pollok; Rossvale; Rutherglen Glencairn; Troon

SJFA West Region Championship (14 clubs)

Arthurlie; Blantyre Victoria; Cambuslang Rangers; Craigmark Burntonians; Cumbernauld United; Dalry Thistle; Darvel Juniors; Gartcairn Juniors; Irvine Victoria; Kilsyth Rangers; Neilston Juniors; Petershill; Renfrew; Shotts Bon Accord; St Roch's; Whitletts Victoria

SJFA West Region League One (11 clubs)

Ardrossan Winton Rovers; Bellshill Athletic; Carluke Rovers; East Kilbride Thistle; Girvan; Glasgow Perthshire; Greenock Juniors; Kello Rovers; Lanark United; Larkhall Thistle; Lesmahagow; Maryhill; Port Glasgow; Royal Albert; Shettleston; Wishaw Juniors

SJFA West Region League Two (7 clubs)

Annbank United; Ardeer Thistle; Ashfield; Forth Wanderers; Johnstone Burgh; Lugar Boswell Thistle; Maybole Juniors; Muirkirk Juniors; Newmains United; Saltcoats Victoria; St Anthony's; Thorniewood United; Vale of Clyde; Vale of Leven; Yoker Athletic

South of Scotland League (0 clubs)

Abbey Vale; Bonnyton Thistle; Caledonian Braves Res; Creetown; Heston Rovers; Lochar Thistle; Lochmaben; Mid-Annandale; Newton Stewart; Nithsdale Wanderers; St Cuthbert Wanderers; Stranraer Res; Threave Rovers; Upper Annandale; Wigtown & Bladnoch

Amateurs (1 club)

Drumchapel United PYM; Glasgow University; Oban Saints; Strathclyde University

More applicants to follow to be added to the growing list!

You are wrong Lugar Boswell thistle put their application in at the meeting at East kilbride.   When the question was asked at the end of the meeting (Have any club applied) The answer was one. That one was Lugar who were the first team to apply

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3 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

I created this and posted it on the Coronavirus and the Scottish Championship thread but some here might want a look at it. Presuming the season is abandoned I decided to do 16 conferences of 17 in the Scottish league so we can start afresh like the East of Scotland did. Here’s how it turned out if we took it by current league position
 

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Celtic

 

Stranraer
Cove Rangers

Gala Fairydean

Huntly

Dunbar United

Wigtown & Bladnoch     

Invergordon 

Kilwinning Rangers

Tayport

Bathgate Thistle

Burghead Thistle

Cumbernauld United

Forfar Albion

Linlithgow Rose Community

Muirkirk Juniors

Maybole Juniors

 

Rangers

Forfar Athletic

Edinburgh City

Deveronvale

Berwick Rangers

Upper Annandale           

Crossgates Primrose 

Craigroyston  

Carnoustie Panmure

Beith Juniors

Montrose Roselea

Aberdeen University JFC

Blairgowrie Juniors

Whitletts Victoria

Buchanhaven Hearts

Yoker Athletic

Johnstone Burgh

 

Motherwell

Peterhead

Elgin City

University of Stirling

Strathspey Thistle

Linlithgow Rose

Lochmaben       

Arniston Rangers
Livingston United

Inverness

Bunillidh

Forres Thistle

Newburgh

Glentanar J.F.C.

Whitehills J.F.C.

Vale of Leven

Ashfield

 

Aberdeen

Clyde

Cowdenbeath

Wick Academy

Gretna 2008

Lochar Thistle

Sauchie Juniors

Peebles Rovers  

Banks O'Dee

Bridge of Don Thistle

Kilbirnie Ladeside

Sunnybank

Stonehaven

Buckie Rovers

Kilsyth Rangers

Royal Albert

Thorniewood United

 

Livingston

Dumbarton

Queen's Park

Cumbernauld Colts

Turriff United

Jeanfield Swifts 

Creetown

Easthouses Lily MW 

Thurso 

Fauldhouse United

Kirriemuir Thistle

Rosyth

Newmachar United JFC

Syngenta

Bo'ness United Junior

East Kilbride Thistle

Forth Wanderers

 

Hibernian

East Fife

Stirling Albion

Keith

Edinburgh University

St Cuthbert Wanderers

Blackburn United 

Ormiston  

Pollok

Luncarty

Harthill Royal

Dundee East Craigie

Blantyre Victoria

Coupar Angus

Dalry Thistle

Wishaw Juniors

Annbank United

 

St Johnstone

Montrose

Annan Athletic

Caledonian Braves

Clachnacuddin

Musselburgh Athletic

Whitehill Welfare

Hawick Royal Albert United  

Broughty Athletic

Glenafton Athletic

Deveronside

Darvel Juniors

Dundee Violet

Neilston Juniors

West Calder United

Kello Rovers                      

Vale of Clyde

 

Kilmarnock

Airdrieonians

Stenhousemuir

Nairn County

Dalbeattie Star

Heston Rovers

Newtongrange Star  

Burntisland Shipyard  

Pumpherston

Halkirk Utd

Bonar Bridge 

Kirkintilloch Rob Roy

Stoneyburn       

Cruden Bay

Gartcairn

Maryhill

St. Anthony's

 

St Mirren

Falkirk

Albion Rovers

East Kilbride

Lossiemouth

Penicuik Athletic

Lothian Thistle Hutchison Vale

Tweedmouth Rangers 

Culter

Dyce

Scone Thistle

Rutherglen Glencairn

Fraserburgh United

Dufftown J.F.C.

Petershill

Girvan

Saltcoats Victoria

 

Ross County

Raith Rovers

Brechin City       

Forres Mechanics

Vale of Leithen 

Nithsdale Wanderers    

Tynecastle  

Oakley United  

Golspie

Armadale Thistle

Kennoway Star Hearts

Maud

Islavale

Sauchie Juniors Community

St. Roch's

Bellshill Athletic

Newmains United

 

Hamilton Academical

Partick Thistle

Brora Rangers

Civil Service Strollers

Fort William 

Dundonald Bluebell 

Leith Athletic  

Coldstream  

Auchinleck Talbot

Dundee North End         

Aberdeen East End

Benburb

Renfrew

Lochee Harp

Cambuslang Rangers

Larkhall Thistle

Lugar Boswell Thistle

 

Heart of Midlothian

Queen of the South

Kelty Hearts

Formartine United

Bo'ness United

Newton Stewart             

Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts  

St Andrews United  

Lochee United

Clydebank

Rossvale

Ellon United

Arbroath Victoria

Arthurlie

Craigmark Burntonians

Glasgow Perthshire

Ardeer Thistle

 

Dundee United

Alloa Athletic

Inverurie Loco Works

The Spartans

Threave Rovers

Camelon Juniors 

Dunipace  

Dalkeith Thistle  

Whitburn Juniors

Orkney

Forfar West End

Troon

Kirkcaldy & Dysart

Spey Valley United

Irvine Victoria

Carluke Rovers

Glasgow Uni

 

Inverness Caledonian Thistle

Greenock Morton

Bonnyrigg Rose

Buckie Thistle

Broxburn Athletic 

Mid Annandale

Glenrothes  

Kinnoull FC  

Hermes

Nairn St. Ninian

Lochore Welfare

Hall Russell United

Longside

Stoneywood-Parkvale

Ardrossan Winton Rovers

Greenock Juniors

Drumchapel PYM

 

Dundee

Arbroath

Fraserburgh

BSC Glasgow                     

Abbey Vale        

Tranent Juniors  

Heriot Watt University  

Preston Athletic  

St. Duthus

Thornton Hibs

Colony Park JFC

Hurlford United

New Elgin

Lochgelly Albert

Lanark United

Lesmahagow Juniors

Oban Saints

 

Ayr United

Dunfermline

East Stirlingshire

Rothes

Hill of Beath Hawthorn

Bonnyton Thistle

Edinburgh United  

Haddington Athletic  

Irvine Meadow XI

Dundee Downfield

Largs Thistle

Banchory St. Ternan

Shotts Bon Accord

Brechin Victoria

Shettleston

Port Glasgow Juniors

Strathclyde Uni

I presumed Glasgow Uni are applying to the WoS and added in Oban and Strath Uni to make it an even amount but you get the jist

What were you smoking at the time?

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52 minutes ago, AML67 said:

As has been stated many times during this topic you yet again assume that because the Juniors have finally and belatedly ( in some cases possibly reluctantly ) jumped on the bandwagon and have decided to join the Pyramid set up you somehow feel they can simply supersede and jump the queue in front of admittedly smaller Clubs who struggled for years to gain and keep meeting the License criteria against the odds in many cases ! These licensed teams in the South don’t have the financial muscle of your aforementioned Clubs and many , many others in the East and the new West but that doesn’t give anyone the right to overlook the incredible efforts from the respective teams trying to survive on average crowds and limited sponsorship in comparison and I for one as someone involved with such a Club feel they thoroughly deserve their opportunity to remain at Tier 6. What’s your real issue anyway because as you’re aware the chances of the SOSFL winners overcoming either the East or West in a play off are minimal at best if not borderline impossible but presumably you’d rather have multiple teams from the Central belt regions being given the opportunity to succeed at the expense of those that’s entire history lies in Senior football ? 

In that case they can apply for the WOS and try to remain at tier 6 with their performances on the park, and not just their historic status. Though if as you say there's basically no chance of them ever winning the LL play-off then does it matter if they are removed from tier 6?

3 minutes ago, sweep said:

You are wrong Lugar Boswell thistle put their application in at the meeting at East kilbride.   When the question was asked at the end of the meeting (Have any club applied) The answer was one. That one was Lugar who were the first team to apply

Well if they don't tell anyone then how do we know they've applied? We're not psychic. Maybe @Kennie can confirm?

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The candidates will come from within the clubs who form the new wosfl.probably for the second season of the new league setup.they will make their own choices and decisions.all clubs get to propose new idea's. rule changes if they get a secondary to back them thats what being a league is about,its the clubs who determine how their run.

In fairness that’s been the same every year in any association
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14 minutes ago, Ginaro said:

In that case they can apply for the WOS and try to remain at tier 6 with their performances on the park, and not just their historic status. Though if as you say there's basically no chance of them ever winning the LL play-off then does it matter if they are removed from tier 6?

I'd like to have seen the entire SOSFL apply for the confrence season of the WOSFL and the LL pyramid would be sorted within 1 season.  Keeping the SOSFL at tier 6 makes no sense if their teams aren't strong enough to compete with the East and West champions, the SOSFL and WOSFL should be one league with the East v West playoff to go up, hopefully in the future it'll be both promoted. They can't have the argument the SOSFL has existed for X number of years so should just remain at tier 6 permanently when the WRJFA and ERJFA have ripped their leagues up to get the WOS and EOS sorted.  Any ambitious SOSFL team should be joining the WOSFL as playing in a better league will help to improve them.  

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2 hours ago, Robert James said:

FUTURE OF THE JUNIORS

WEST

As the deadline for applications is less than 6 days away, it is evident that the formation of the West of Scotland (pyramid) League has been a success, with at least 49 applications to date.  The remaining question will be which Junior clubs (if any) don't submit an application to the LL's new 'feeder' league ? 

EAST

I have not yet seen confirmation from the EoSL, about the final number of new clubs who actually applied to join for 2020/21. Was it 8 junior clubs in total, or were there any surprising 'late'  applications from West Lothian, or north of the Tay clubs (testing the SLL/HFL boundary, as Luncarty have done)  ?  Did any amateur clubs also apply ?  Has Eyemouth reactivated its dormant EoSL membership ? The future of ERJFA Juniors remains very unclear.

NORTH

Some discussions were held with the North juniors, about the possibility of them joining a Highland pyramid, alongside the North Caledonian League. Someone on here referred to TJ and the SFA being involved (?).  However, in the absence of any further/recent information, it now appears that nothing is happening about the North Juniors joining the pyramid. Or have I missed something ?

In the meantime, according to the Inverness Courier,  four new clubs have applied to join the NCL for 2020/21. They are :  Loch Ness (Inverness & District League), new club Scourie (from north west Sutherland),  HFL club's Nairn County Development XI, and the return of Alness United (subject to a new ground lease being agreed).  North Caley officials have met with SFA and and HFL reps, andthey have been transparent about their clubs interest in joining the pyramid. 

Will the North Juniors be left behind ? 

****

THERE IS STILL WORK TO BE DONE IF THE SCOTTISH PYRAMID IS TO BECOME TRULY NATIONAL.

 

 

Pretty comprehensive, but dont forget Tayside !

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1 hour ago, AML67 said:

As has been stated many times during this topic you yet again assume that because the Juniors have finally and belatedly ( in some cases possibly reluctantly ) jumped on the bandwagon and have decided to join the Pyramid set up you somehow feel they can simply supersede and jump the queue in front of admittedly smaller Clubs who struggled for years to gain and keep meeting the License criteria against the odds in many cases ! These licensed teams in the South don’t have the financial muscle of your aforementioned Clubs and many , many others in the East and the new West but that doesn’t give anyone the right to overlook the incredible efforts from the respective teams trying to survive on average crowds and limited sponsorship in comparison and I for one as someone involved with such a Club feel they thoroughly deserve their opportunity to remain at Tier 6. What’s your real issue anyway because as you’re aware the chances of the SOSFL winners overcoming either the East or West in a play off are minimal at best if not borderline impossible but presumably you’d rather have multiple teams from the Central belt regions being given the opportunity to succeed at the expense of those that’s entire history lies in Senior football ? 

Totally agree there still seems to be a misunderstanding among some the SoS are somehow unjustly keeping a promotion place to the LL from the larger EoS and now WoS teams. The champion of SoS has to be licenced and there are only a few clubs with that, and never likely to be many more due to the financial scale of most SoS clubs. Plus promotion to the LL for an SoS club can only ever be gained through winning a playoff with the EoS and or WoS champion, with little chance an SoS team will ever win that playoff. Even if the LL do open up to say 2 relegation/promotion spots with 1 automatic promotion spot into the LL, the SoS route would very likely still be via a playoff with the runner up of the EoS/WoS champions, and then probably the second bottom LL team. So I can't see why some people still seem to have an issue with the SoS being at tier 6. 

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9 minutes ago, San Starko Rover said:

I'd like to have seen the entire SOSFL apply for the confrence season of the WOSFL and the LL pyramid would be sorted within 1 season.  Keeping the SOSFL at tier 6 makes no sense if their teams aren't strong enough to compete with the East and West champions, the SOSFL and WOSFL should be one league with the East v West playoff to go up, hopefully in the future it'll be both promoted. They can't have the argument the SOSFL has existed for X number of years so should just remain at tier 6 permanently when the WRJFA and ERJFA have ripped their leagues up to get the WOS and EOS sorted.  Any ambitious SOSFL team should be joining the WOSFL as playing in a better league will help to improve them.  

This would be a terrible idea. Many of the clubs in the SOSFL have no interest in playing outside of their local area due to the costs and travel involved, so asking them to join a conference set-up where most of their opponents will be outside of that area would be a bit silly. It would be better for the teams who have aspirations of West/Lowland level football to apply and for the rest to bolt on as a regional league at a lower tier.

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41 minutes ago, Ginaro said:

In that case they can apply for the WOS and try to remain at tier 6 with their performances on the park, and not just their historic status. Though if as you say there's basically no chance of them ever winning the LL play-off then does it matter if they are removed from tier 6?

Well if they don't tell anyone then how do we know they've applied? We're not psychic. Maybe @Kennie can confirm?

I would suggest that @sweep is the man to believe here. As for Kennie, he hasn't been involved with Lugar for quite a while.

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1 minute ago, craigkillie said:

This would be a terrible idea. Many of the clubs in the SOSFL have no interest in playing outside of their local area due to the costs and travel involved, so asking them to join a conference set-up where most of their opponents will be outside of that area would be a bit silly. It would be better for the teams who have aspirations of West/Lowland level football to apply and for the rest to bolt on as a regional league at a lower tier.

So they have no desire to play outside their own area and no realistic ability to win in a playoff with the other two how can they remain justified as a tier 6 league just because they currently are.  I agree they should be a feeder to the WOSFL but many think they should just remain tier 6.  for what purpose, so their champions take a hammering every season in a pointless playoff game they'll almost certainly lose. 

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Kilwinning and Clydebank are two, maybe 1 or 2 others

Hopefully. I wonder how the sjc will fit in given the league and ssc take primacy. Someone suggested changing fixtures around. I wouldnt be happy having my club subject to junior fixture arrangements just to appease clubs who can’t move on. The best way to start the wosl would be to make it optional, that way clubs could have seen that it wasnt the big bad wolf etc and joined in their own time. Who’s ever said clubs who join should be cast adrift? Madness.
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2 hours ago, patriot1 said:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/spfl-pyramid-masterplan-agreed-juniors-21753119

Read all the way to the bottom.

Maybe someone who tuned into to Kilwinnings Q & A session this week could let us know what came out of it.

Or just ask me

What do you want know?

Our position at the moment is the same, however if the SJFA are to undergo modernisation and wholesale transformation then we will look at what benefits being a member brings to Kilwinning Rangers and possibly revisit our position.

 

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4 minutes ago, San Starko Rover said:

So they have no desire to play outside their own area and no realistic ability to win in a playoff with the other two how can they remain justified as a tier 6 league just because they currently are.  I agree they should be a feeder to the WOSFL but many think they should just remain tier 6.  for what purpose, so their champions take a hammering every season in a pointless playoff game they'll almost certainly lose. 

I haven't suggested they should remain a Tier 6 league - I don't think they should. There are loads of other alternatives beyond forcing the smaller, basically local amateur, clubs into a set-up where they're going to be heading up to Glasgow to get pumped 7-0 every other week.

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5 minutes ago, San Starko Rover said:

So they have no desire to play outside their own area and no realistic ability to win in a playoff with the other two how can they remain justified as a tier 6 league just because they currently are.  I agree they should be a feeder to the WOSFL but many think they should just remain tier 6.  for what purpose, so their champions take a hammering every season in a pointless playoff game they'll almost certainly lose. 

Remember an issue is that there are a couple of clubs in the LL currently who  would drop into the SoS if relegated. 

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