theesel1994 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 We are bringing back the Ayrshire League. It was an elaborate plan but it had to b done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrise Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 We are bringing back the Ayrshire League. It was an elaborate plan but it had to b done.Careful now, I’ve heard that at West Region meetings before... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Wilson Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, theesel1994 said: We are bringing back the Ayrshire League. It was an elaborate plan but it had to b done. Hahha. Could well be the case if a few SOS teams joined. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chis Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 9 hours ago, Doonhamer1969 said: I wonder what became of the original 1886 version...... Original Scottish Junior Cup is in the museum at Hampden Park. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Cameron Wilson said: Looks fairly likely all clubs will apply... There's literally no reason not to at this point. If this turns out to be the case it would seem a little odd to have conferences just for Drumchapel. Would love to see more ambitious clubs outside the juniors make an application, or if they have already, go public. In fact I think all clubs should be encouraged to go public to move things along and help get everyone on board. There's probably 3x main reasons that Conferences make sense. 2019-20 & 2020-21 are going to be a mess either to complete or begin. Conferences is a simple way to resolve it and doesn't lead to a variety of options from conflicting interests. Some clubs will see it as an opportunity on the field. Some clubs will see it as an opportunity to get some big gates they otherwise wouldn't get. All the more important with how this season has gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Wilson Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: There's probably 3x main reasons that Conferences make sense. 2019-20 & 2020-21 are going to be a mess either to complete or begin. Conferences is a simple way to resolve it and doesn't lead to a variety of options from conflicting interests. Some clubs will see it as an opportunity on the field. Some clubs will see it as an opportunity to get some big gates they otherwise wouldn't get. All the more important with how this season has gone. Good points. Depending upon when football is played again, conferences could offer a solution if some kind of truncated 2020-21 season is necessary. A greater number of conferences would allow some flexibility in how many games would be played, according to how much time there would be left before the end of season 2020-21. Feels a bit pessimistic talking about next season not being played out normally but at this point that possibility has to be considered I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Next: Larkhall Thistle. Another League 1 club but also the oldest of the Juniors clubs. The statement is referring to a meeting due to be held on 23rd March (not October) and the statement date, I suspect, is 28th March not 18th March (which would have been the original announcement date for the meeting of 23rd which is cancelled for obvious reasons. http://larkhallthistle.co.uk/ Club Statement On: 18 March, 2020 By: hugh As everyone is aware the club were originally planning to have an extraordinary meeting on Monday 23rd. October to discuss the proposed pyramid system and the way forward. However due to the coronavirus situation we had to cancel this meeting. The club committee intended recommending to the members that we take up our option of lodging our application for membership of the newly formed West of Scotland league under the auspices of the Lowland League at tier 6 of the Pyramid. The club were represented at two meetings last week one an extra general meeting of the West Region and the then a meeting with chairmen of all the leagues currently sitting at tier 6 of the pyramid . Your committee met on Monday night and not for the first time had a lengthy discussion on this subject and with the detail available from the meetings last week it was an unanimous decision that Larkhall Thistle make a formal application to join the new proposed West of Scotland and this has been duly sent. Please be assured that this decision was not taken likely but as custodians of this 142 year old club we need to ensure that we act in the best interests of the club to make sure we can look forward to another 142 years. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 25 Clubs which have Applied so far/have said that they will be applying: Premiership (4) Championship (10) League One (7) League Two (3) Others (1) Clydebank Arthurlie Bellshill Athletic Ashfield Drumchapel Utd PYM Kilwinning Rangers Blantyre Victoria Glasgow Perthshire Newmains United Kirkintilloch Rob Roy Cambuslang Rangers Greenock Juniors Vale of Clyde Rutherglen Glencairn Cumbernauld United Kello Rovers Gartcairn Juniors Larkhall Thistle Kilsyth Rangers Maryhill Neilston Juniors Royal Albert Petershill Renfrew Whitletts Victoria Not known to have applied so far: Auchinleck Talbot Craigmark Burntonians Ardrossan Winton Rovers Annbank United Beith Juniors Dalry Thistle Carluke Rovers Ardeer Thistle Benburb Darvel East Kilbride Thistle Forth Wanderers Cumnock Juniors Irvine Victoria Girvan Johnstone Burgh Glenafton Athletic Shotts Bon Accord Lanark United Lugar Boswell Thistle Hurlford United St Roch's Lesmahagow Juniors Maybole Juniors Irvine Meadow XI Port Glasgow Juniors Muirkirk Juniors Kilbirnie Ladeside Shettleston Saltcoats Victoria Largs Thistle Wishaw Juniors St Anthony's Pollok Thorniewood United Rossvale Vale of Leven Troon Yoker Athletic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinabear Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Unless more amateur or sofs teams join then I see no point in conferences. Wouldn't imagine many West premiership sides would want to play in a weaker league just to accommodate 1 team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestman54 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, edinabear said: Unless more amateur or sofs teams join then I see no point in conferences. Wouldn't imagine many West premiership sides would want to play in a weaker league just to accommodate 1 team Plenty of time yet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Money Man Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, edinabear said: Unless more amateur or sofs teams join then I see no point in conferences. Wouldn't imagine many West premiership sides would want to play in a weaker league just to accommodate 1 team I understand your thinking but where would you fit Drum Utd in? Don't think that will happen anyway as the last statement nailed the colours to the mast by declaring conferences. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, edinabear said: Unless more amateur or sofs teams join then I see no point in conferences. Wouldn't imagine many West premiership sides would want to play in a weaker league just to accommodate 1 team How do you resolve the problem of an incomplete season then? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinabear Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 22 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: How do you resolve the problem of an incomplete season then? Is that not a different matter. How would conferences solve that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, edinabear said: Is that not a different matter. How would conferences solve that? Its the same issue at this point. Nobody is going to come back at complete this season at this point you've got some clubs with just two league games to play and others sixteen. There's 18 promotion and relegation spots in the West Region. Right now on paper there's a good 30+ that could fill those 18 spots. Conferences provide an easier solution by being a clean slate rather than spend x amount of time debating "We were getting promoted, you were getting relegated" and offering up solutions that suit personal preferences. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, edinabear said: Unless more amateur or sofs teams join then I see no point in conferences. Wouldn't imagine many West premiership sides would want to play in a weaker league just to accommodate 1 team Honestly what are you talking about. If that was the attitude of many west teams then I'd say, well just stay where you are because a league is starting with or without you and once the conferences are sorted, any team who wants to join the following year, will be starting at the bottom division and quite rightly The WOS isn't the junior league, its is run by the LL,EOS and SOS and they run it the way they think is best and the conference way that they have used so far has worked well, (from what I gather)l. It seems to me they want everyone on an even pegging and then they will all fall into their correct divisions after the first season. There maybe more teams applying who are not junior, only the Association who run the new league will know better but its conference for a reason in the new league, its less hassle and everyone is given the same opportunity to start off with. If there are 25 teams already stating they are applying then that's two divisions but there's probably more who have applied who haven't stated anything so only the WOS operators will know. For me if the conferences are kind even then that's all that can be asked. Its a new ear for a lot of football teams, potential more money to spend, potential bigger sponsors so they will change their structure and some clubs will grow out of this so some teams will be ready to hit the new league head on with progression in mind, we just do not know Edited March 28, 2020 by Bestsinceslicebread 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriot1 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Dev said: 25 Clubs which have Applied so far/have said that they will be applying: Premiership (4) Championship (10) League One (7) League Two (3) Others (1) Clydebank Arthurlie Bellshill Athletic Ashfield Drumchapel Utd PYM Kilwinning Rangers Blantyre Victoria Glasgow Perthshire Newmains United Kirkintilloch Rob Roy Cambuslang Rangers Greenock Juniors Vale of Clyde Rutherglen Glencairn Cumbernauld United Kello Rovers Gartcairn Juniors Larkhall Thistle Kilsyth Rangers Maryhill Neilston Juniors Royal Albert Petershill Renfrew Whitletts Victoria Not known to have applied so far: Auchinleck Talbot Craigmark Burntonians Ardrossan Winton Rovers Annbank United Beith Juniors Dalry Thistle Carluke Rovers Ardeer Thistle Benburb Darvel East Kilbride Thistle Forth Wanderers Cumnock Juniors Irvine Victoria Girvan Johnstone Burgh Glenafton Athletic Shotts Bon Accord Lanark United Lugar Boswell Thistle Hurlford United St Roch's Lesmahagow Juniors Maybole Juniors Irvine Meadow XI Port Glasgow Juniors Muirkirk Juniors Kilbirnie Ladeside Shettleston Saltcoats Victoria Largs Thistle Wishaw Juniors St Anthony's Pollok Thorniewood United Rossvale Vale of Leven Troon Yoker Athletic Dev, any chance of starting a table with the new WOSFL teams SJFA plans? There are four categories at the moment. 1 Clubs that have confirmed they will remain members of the SJFA while playing in the WOSFL eg Gartcairn 2 Teams that are definitely resigning fron the SJFA eg Kilwinning 3 Sides that have not declared one way or the other eg Cambuslang 4 Clubs that are asking their shareholders/supporters which way to go eg Irvine and Shotts Cheers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Don’t see why people are so bothered about conferences, it’s one season. It worked fine in the East, yes there will be the odd cricket score if the big guns go for it against the weaker teams but fans visit new grounds and small clubs get some good paydays and everyone gets the same opportunity to find their level in one season. Clubs don’t have to join next season if they don’t want to they can wait and join at the bottom once the divisions are formed. Every team is new to the WOSFL they all start as equals. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer1969 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Chis said: Original Scottish Junior Cup is in the museum at Hampden Park. Thats the 1887 version, there was one in use for 11 years before that, as it states in the article. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, gogsy said: https://twitter.com/scotsunsport/status/1243231565955637248 Reply from Armadale Thistle I will play a game of 'does this picture sum up the tweet?' rather than click the link. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I will play a game of 'does this picture sum up the tweet?' rather than click the link. It’s more this 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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