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Junior football, what is the future?


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12 minutes ago, Born To Run said:

I suspect the Tier 5 line is a troll.

If that turns out to be legit...then I'll be speechless. They'd be mad to try that after the "done deal" at tier 6 chat, surely?

It's impossible under the terms of the wording in the pyramid agreement for the juniors to add at tier 5, it expclicity says tier 5 is only the HL and LL, and only a playoff between those 2 can replace team 42 in the spfl. It also expclicity says any amendment to the pyramid route into spfl has to be agreed by all parties. 

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7 minutes ago, morley said:

It's impossible under the terms of the wording in the pyramid agreement for the juniors to add at tier 5, it expclicity says tier 5 is only the HL and LL, and only a playoff between those 2 can replace team 42 in the spfl. It also expclicity says any amendment to the pyramid route into spfl has to be agreed by all parties. 

Exactly my point, yeah. It would be impossible to back up.

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1 hour ago, theesel1994 said:

I've this funny feeling that's not going to happen - probably warned against talking about it on here. Not one person has got home and posted what the proposals actually were? That seems a bit strange.

Would it not be something if Mr Ronney has been correct all along and he indeed can lead the juniors to the promised land.

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4 minutes ago, clash city rocker said:

Would it not be something if Mr Ronney has been correct all along and he indeed can lead the juniors to the promised land.

Ok - if that happens, I'll crunch up a pot noodle (I don't even care what flavour anymore) into a bowl and eat it like a breakfast cereal. All these bets I'm losing I'm going to be going through a lot of pot noodles by the time this season is over.

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5 hours ago, Born To Run said:

I suspect the Tier 5 line is a troll.

If that turns out to be legit...then I'll be speechless. They'd be mad to try that after the "done deal" at tier 6 chat, surely?

The suggestions mentioned above have been circulating for over a year or more.It seems to be the case if we do not hear anything concrete from last nights meeting we will speculate what the outcome will be.Truth is, am fed up reading dross.We could save a helloffa man hours If people post what they believe to be facts and not what they want to believe.

 

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The suggestions mentioned above have been circulating for over a year or more.It seems to be the case if we do not hear anything concrete from last nights meeting we will speculate what the outcome will be.Truth is, am fed up reading dross.We could save a helloffa man hours If people post what they believe to be facts and not what they want to believe.
 
I agree, however the facts remain (backed by actual evidence in written form via constitutions and rules) that the spfl, HL,LL,eosfl and sosfl have to ratify any new entrant league at tier 5. The LL, eosfl and sosfl any new league at tier 6, 7, 8 etc.

That is the only factual evidence there is right now and this has been there since the inception of the LL and HL. It was there 2 years ago and was there 6 months ago.

The sfa have nothing to do with any of it other than being the named governing body and managing the discipline.

The sjfa and wrsjfa have missed an open goal in the west for years, they could have had the entire west move en masse, as a bloc in their current league format 3 mo this ago if they had just told their clubs to back the sensible option. They didn't, now we are here.
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From what little I have heard, none of it from my own club reps.

 

Basically, the WR are pinning everything on the Maxwell "done deal" email as being legally binding. The proposal is for the West Premiership to slot in at Tier 6, and be run by the LL, and allow any existing tier 6 sides (e.g. Threave/Bonnyton) wishing to join to slot in to that division. The West Region would still run tiers 7-9 below that. The obvious question is, if they thought it was legally binding, why wait almost 2 years?

 

Gordon Ronney apparently at one point suggested that clubs should turn up on the steps of Hampden on Thursday in a show of solidarity and demand access to the pyramid. He wants all the clubs to stick together and to starve the new league of members, which (in his opinion) would force the LL to accept the Juniors plan instead.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, peasy23 said:

Basically, the WR are pinning everything on the Maxwell done deal email as being legally binding. The proposal is for the West Premiership to slot in at Tier 6, and be run by the LL, and allow any existing tier 6 sides (e.g. Threave/Bonnyton) wishing to join to slot in to that division. The West Region would still run tiers 7-9 below that. The obvious question is, if they thought it was legally binding, why wait almost 2 years?

Ah - there’s the explanation for the vague legal threats made earlier.

Thats a very flimsy case in my opinion. You’re asking clubs who have waited for years “in good faith” to keep waiting and trusting in the association, which has failed to deliver when opportunities have been presented.

Enough sides will commit to form the WoSFL. The plan of “starving” it of applicant clubs will fail.

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14 minutes ago, peasy23 said:

From what little I have heard, none of it from my own club reps.

 

Basically, the WR are pinning everything on the Maxwell "done deal" email as being legally binding. The proposal is for the West Premiership to slot in at Tier 6, and be run by the LL, and allow any existing tier 6 sides (e.g. Threave/Bonnyton) wishing to join to slot in to that division. The West Region would still run tiers 7-9 below that. The obvious question is, if they thought it was legally binding, why wait almost 2 years?

 

Gordon Ronney apparently at one point suggested that clubs should turn up on the steps of Hampden on Thursday in a show of solidarity and demand access to the pyramid. He wants all the clubs to stick together and to starve the new league of members, which (in his opinion) would force the LL to accept the Juniors plan instead.

 

 

The done deal email was only ever a draft statement and update for the members of the PWG. It was never meant for public consumption, and there's no way it would be considered binding.

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From what little I have heard, none of it from my own club reps.

 

Basically, the WR are pinning everything on the Maxwell "done deal" email as being legally binding. The proposal is for the West Premiership to slot in at Tier 6, and be run by the LL, and allow any existing tier 6 sides (e.g. Threave/Bonnyton) wishing to join to slot in to that division. The West Region would still run tiers 7-9 below that. The obvious question is, if they thought it was legally binding, why wait almost 2 years?

 

Gordon Ronney apparently at one point suggested that clubs should turn up on the steps of Hampden on Thursday in a show of solidarity and demand access to the pyramid. He wants all the clubs to stick together and to starve the new league of members, which (in his opinion) would force the LL to accept the Juniors plan instead.

 

 

 

That’s a terrible plan, no way that back of a fag packet done deal from IM would hold up and they’ve already lost the Bankies before the meeting I doubt out of 51 notes of interest that the LL won’t have enough to start a league.

 

Basically the plan is “it’s a done deal 2.0” and “Mon the Juniors!”

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An email being legally binding is some statement. I look forward to claiming my $9.7m fortune from the Congolese Prince who emailed me last week. That money is mine - it's legally binding after all!

Buckled at the thought of St Anthony's and Kilbirnie sending lads to the Hampden steps tomorrow.

If I was a club rep I'd be making sure I had a couple of spare pens for the LL meeting tomorrow.

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Honestly, this is just ludicrous. How can they claim a draft email was legally binding? Also, that email mentions consensus was reached. Even if that was the case, that doesn't mean everything was already decided and official. And obviously there is the small detail that Ian Maxwell can't even decide these things.

I wouldn't be surprised if many clubs will apply to the WoSFL after Thursday as surely only the most loyal of the "mon the junyoors" lot will believe this?

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