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Junior football, what is the future?


Burnie_man

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What is actually going on?

Legal action to stop clubs applying for a new league and keep them in the juniors?

Do they seriously think any court kn the land will take this on.

Just wow

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1 minute ago, theesel1994 said:

More likely to stop the new League setting up and poaching (?) clubs.

Simple way round all this have 2 teams the main one in the pyramid and make one up to stay in the juniors then after a month of so fold the junior team and give them any excuse.

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8 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:

A meeting was held on Wednesday 19th February where the WJFA representatives presented a number of proposals for the Lowland League to consider in order to open up further meaningful discussions in order to reach a mutually beneficial solution.

It is with bitter disappointment that we report our proposals have been rejected. We see the WJFA structure as a perfect bespoke solution to meet the Lowland League plans for the creation of a West of Scotland League which would fill the Pyramid void in the geographical West of the country.

We have other options at our disposal and will implement these from today.

We would advise all clubs that at this time they should keep their options open with regard to “Expressions of Interest”, this in no way has to be regarded as “raising the white flag”, far from it. It is to safe guard our member clubs in their desire to join the pyramid. It would be remiss of the West Junior F.A. not to advise on the foregoing.

We can assure all member clubs that our resolve remains steadfast and that all that can be done will be done to ensure “no one is left behind”. It may be that the determination outcome lies outside the football authorities jurisdiction. A step we will consider if required to do so.

How is it even possible to reach a mutually beneficial solution, when the LL don't want the SJFA involved?

How can the WRJFA structure be a "perfect bespoke solution" when the LL are inviting applications from all clubs in the west? Where would Glasgow Uni or Threave fit in the WRJFA structure?

At least it's finally revealed what the SJFA's reserves are for - a nice trip to Switzerland so TAJ can present his case at the Court of Arbitration for Sport!

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2 minutes ago, wow-wee said:

Simple way round all this have 2 teams the main one in the pyramid and make one up to stay in the juniors then after a month of so fold the junior team and give them any excuse.

'Sorry SJFA. We found we didn't have enough reusable straws in the canteen to keep two teams going'.....

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38 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:

This copy?  embarrassing stuff on a whole number of levels 😂

 

Dear All

Pyramid

Following the Scottish Junior F.A. statement of the 14th February 2020, the West Junior F.A. would confirm their direct engagement with George Fraser Chairman of the Lowland League. A meeting was held on Wednesday 19th February where the WJFA representatives presented a number of proposals for the Lowland League to consider in order to open up further meaningful discussions in order to reach a mutually beneficial solution.

It is with bitter disappointment that we report our proposals have been rejected. We see the WJFA structure as a perfect bespoke solution to meet the Lowland League plans for the creation of a West of Scotland League which would fill the Pyramid void in the geographical West of the country.

Contrary to some opinion the SJFA have throughout pyramid discussions played a proactive approach within the Pyramid Working Group (PWG), we have not walked away and are always willing to re-open talks. Despite numerous agreements/statements including definitive conclusions by the Scottish FA these have failed to be followed through and released within the public domain. These will released in due course. All Junior Clubs should feel badly let down that we have yet to be included within the SFA’s blue print for “Pyramid” more especially when this had been previously agreed. This has not been the fault of the SJFA or the WJFA.

We have other options at our disposal and will implement these from today.

We would advise all clubs that at this time they should keep their options open with regard to “Expressions of Interest”, this in no way has to be regarded as “raising the white flag”, far from it. It is to safe guard our member clubs in their desire to join the pyramid. It would be remiss of the West Junior F.A. not to advise on the foregoing.

We can assure all member clubs that our resolve remains steadfast and that all that can be done will be done to ensure “no one is left behind”. It may be that the determination outcome lies outside the football authorities jurisdiction. A step we will consider if required to do so.

West Junior F.A

This is like most other JFA statements. Vague, jarring grammar, lack of detailed examples to back up assertions, delaying releasing information which member clubs need to know immediately, no proper transparency, unspecific threats. 

The Juniors administration don't deserve to be taken seriously anymore. 

Edited by Cameron Wilson
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40 minutes ago, Doonhamer1969 said:

Aye ,fair point.

Just looking up towns diddier than Stranraer with league teams........

Quite a few.

Dingwall 5,491

Cove 7,157

Brechin 7,199

Annan 9,000 approx

Stenhousemuir  10,190

Methil 10,800

(Yes,yes I know Larbert is contiguous with Stenhousemuir and Methil part of Levenmouth)

Diddier 🤣

I think Stranraer might be diddier than Galashiels, Bonnyrigg and Tranent! 

You must be diddier aghast! 

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7 minutes ago, Ginaro said:

How is it even possible to reach a mutually beneficial solution, when the LL don't want the SJFA involved?

How can the WRJFA structure be a "perfect bespoke solution" when the LL are inviting applications from all clubs in the west? Where would Glasgow Uni or Threave fit in the WRJFA structure?

At least it's finally revealed what the SJFA's reserves are for - a nice trip to Switzerland so TAJ can present his case at the Court of Arbitration for Sport!

Kill two birds with one stone, he can check his bank account while he's at it........

Edited by Doonhamer1969
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2 minutes ago, Doonhamer1969 said:

'Sorry SJFA. We found we didn't have enough reusable straws in the canteen to keep two teams going'.....

Or better the players were getting a slagging when their mates found out they were playing junior fitba.

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40 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:

This copy?  embarrassing stuff on a whole number of levels 😂

 

Dear All

Pyramid

Following the Scottish Junior F.A. statement of the 14th February 2020, the West Junior F.A. would confirm their direct engagement with George Fraser Chairman of the Lowland League. A meeting was held on Wednesday 19th February where the WJFA representatives presented a number of proposals for the Lowland League to consider in order to open up further meaningful discussions in order to reach a mutually beneficial solution.

It is with bitter disappointment that we report our proposals have been rejected. We see the WJFA structure as a perfect bespoke solution to meet the Lowland League plans for the creation of a West of Scotland League which would fill the Pyramid void in the geographical West of the country.

Contrary to some opinion the SJFA have throughout pyramid discussions played a proactive approach within the Pyramid Working Group (PWG), we have not walked away and are always willing to re-open talks. Despite numerous agreements/statements including definitive conclusions by the Scottish FA these have failed to be followed through and released within the public domain. These will released in due course. All Junior Clubs should feel badly let down that we have yet to be included within the SFA’s blue print for “Pyramid” more especially when this had been previously agreed. This has not been the fault of the SJFA or the WJFA.

We have other options at our disposal and will implement these from today.

We would advise all clubs that at this time they should keep their options open with regard to “Expressions of Interest”, this in no way has to be regarded as “raising the white flag”, far from it. It is to safe guard our member clubs in their desire to join the pyramid. It would be remiss of the West Junior F.A. not to advise on the foregoing.

We can assure all member clubs that our resolve remains steadfast and that all that can be done will be done to ensure “no one is left behind”. It may be that the determination outcome lies outside the football authorities jurisdiction. A step we will consider if required to do so.

West Junior F.A

Walter Mitty got the Scott Robertson gig then?

Who else could've written that??

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I’m amused by the idea of legal action to stop a WoS forming.

There is absolutely no legal basis for such an action. The Lowland couldn’t tell the SJFA not to proceed with the changes in the West Region a year or two back? 

If the contention is “poaching” of member clubs, then both the Lowland and EoS saw that possible issue coming a mile off. Look at the wording of all statements thus far - the ball is completely in the court of individual clubs.

I might revise my 20-30 estimate of West Region clubs to move in the wake of this. Suspect it might be more now...

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