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11 minutes ago, glensmad said:

We can only speculate about what this means....
 

He's resigned.  

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27 minutes ago, glensmad said:

We can only speculate about what this means....
 

It means the committee are feart and are staying ERJFA, where they’ll spend a year in a south league with just the Tribute Acts, Syngenta and Whitburn for company before ending up in EOS Tier 8 in 2021 with a manager who isn’t half as good as JC.

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He's resigned.  
Yes he has, as he said he would earlier in the week if Fauldhouse decide not to join the pyramid.

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We can only speculate about what this means....




I think it’s safe to say what I think you think it means!

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9 hours ago, glensmad said:

I don't see this as a compromise. I see this as forcing junior teams who don't want to join the pyramid and go senior to do it anyway.

It's not necessary in my opinion. The proposal on the table allows every team to make their own choice.

This is just more muddying of the waters and delaying tactics, in my opinion.

It's hardly "forcing". The WR clubs voted to join the pyramid as one; if they get the chance to do that then, by any objective standard, it's better that they come over in one go than that we continue to have neighbouring clubs of similar sizes never playing each other. Obviously every club has the right to join whatever league they want, but if it came to it and the WR joined the pyramid as a unit I don't think any clubs would quit and do their own thing.

The one factor that's different now from before is that it's surely clear to literally everyone that a WoSL is coming, next season, one way or another. There are enough clubs to make it happen, the LL are involved and it's going to happen. The WR leadership must know delaying is no longer possible. They might finally accept that if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. 

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2 hours ago, ShrimpLok said:

It means the committee are feart and are staying ERJFA, where they’ll spend a year in a south league with just the Tribute Acts, Syngenta and Whitburn for company before ending up in EOS Tier 8 in 2021 with a manager who isn’t half as good as JC.

The committee didn’t even get to discuss whether to join the pyramid or stay junior, that wasn’t on the agenda at Monday’s meeting... it was only briefly talked about.

This decisions has been made by the same 2-3 men who are running that club into the ground. So much potential, an amazing management/playing squad and half a committee who were willing to push the club forward but in the end totally consumed by village politics and a fear of change... I hope they are proud of themselves 💔😓

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2 hours ago, Spyro said:

The committee didn’t even get to discuss whether to join the pyramid or stay junior, that wasn’t on the agenda at Monday’s meeting... it was only briefly talked about.

This decisions has been made by the same 2-3 men who are running that club into the ground. So much potential, an amazing management/playing squad and half a committee who were willing to push the club forward but in the end totally consumed by village politics and a fear of change... I hope they are proud of themselves 💔😓

If this is the case, that is absolutely crazy. You only need to look close at home to Blackburn to see how good moving to the EoS set up has been for them and most, if not all the rest of us. Remember when Whitburn decided against moving to the East Region Super League in its infancy. They have never recovered from that.

If Fauldhouse remain static this year, I fear they too will live to regret that. 

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With EoS announcing they're going heirarchal (P-1-2-?) from 2021-22 rather than next season (one more sesson of conferences), this guarantees  that WHEN (not if) Fauldhouse join the pyramid, they will be at least 2 promotions off the EoS top flight, rather than 1 had they joined for 20-21. Do these decision-makers life by the light of a parafin lamp?

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Probably tier 9 by then

It means the committee are feart and are staying ERJFA, where they’ll spend a year in a south league with just the Tribute Acts, Syngenta and Whitburn for company before ending up in EOS Tier 8 in 2021 with a manager who isn’t half as good as JC.

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Interesting South of Scotland League meeting last night attended by Rod Petrie and Ian Maxwell from the SFA talking about the pyramid structure !!

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5 minutes ago, locharinn said:

Interesting South of Scotland League meeting last night attended by Rod Petrie and Ian Maxwell from the SFA talking about the pyramid structure emoji849.png!!

Do tell the class...

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1 hour ago, cmontheloknow said:

With EoS announcing they're going heirarchal (P-1-2-?) from 2021-22 rather than next season (one more sesson of conferences), this guarantees  that WHEN (not if) Fauldhouse join the pyramid, they will be at least 2 promotions off the EoS top flight, rather than 1 had they joined for 20-21. Do these decision-makers life by the light of a parafin lamp?

Any chance of Fauldhouse, Whitburn and the other West Lothian clubs applying to the WRSJFA if they want to stay junior? 

I suspect their hatred of the "traitors" is affecting their rational thought processes. 

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15 hours ago, BANKIEBILL said:

So Peasey would be Highlands and Maryhill Lowlands ??

 

9 hours ago, GordonS said:

 

Petershill are well south of the Forth & Clyde canal. 

 

9 hours ago, BANKIEBILL said:

lol so they are - i should know as well it runs about 500 yards from my house - was thinking about the spur that goes to Speirs Wharf :(

Nothing's ever easy with the pyramid is it? :(

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8 minutes ago, patriot1 said:

Any chance of Fauldhouse, Whitburn and the other West Lothian clubs applying to the WRSJFA if they want to stay junior? 

I suspect their hatred of the "traitors" is affecting their rational thought processes. 

"geographical integrity" which hopefully is code for GTF and get to the back of the queue in the East.

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Any chance of Fauldhouse, Whitburn and the other West Lothian clubs applying to the WRSJFA if they want to stay junior?  I suspect their hatred of the "traitors" is affecting their rational thought processes. 

 

As I have always said, West Lothian is little different to deepest, darkest Ayrshire when it comes to "Joonyur men". Devotion to the grade is almost Masonic/LOL

 

 

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6 hours ago, GordonS said:

It's hardly "forcing". The WR clubs voted to join the pyramid as one; if they get the chance to do that then, by any objective standard, it's better that they come over in one go than that we continue to have neighbouring clubs of similar sizes never playing each other. Obviously every club has the right to join whatever league they want, but if it came to it and the WR joined the pyramid as a unit I don't think any clubs would quit and do their own thing.

The one factor that's different now from before is that it's surely clear to literally everyone that a WoSL is coming, next season, one way or another. There are enough clubs to make it happen, the LL are involved and it's going to happen. The WR leadership must know delaying is no longer possible. They might finally accept that if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. 

It's different under this scenario, though.

Had the SJFA been able to bring the entire West Region over as one they would still have been under the banner and jurisdiction of the SJFA, and effectively would still have been junior clubs in the eyes of most of the reluctant acceptors. However, under the scenario suggested yesterday by Pyramidic, these clubs would be brought into the pyramid outside the jurisdiction of the SJFA, and their only connection to the junior world would be taking part in the Scottish Junior Cup for a round or three every year. They would effectively be senior clubs.

That's where the WoSFL proposal is simple. There is no ambiguity, no "who do we belong to, are we junior or senior" about it. And each club can choose their own destiny.

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If Fauldhouse remain static this year, I fear they too will live to regret that. 

 

I messaged @jc1 last night to wish him all the best and I said basically this. I can see staying in the East Juniors for even just another year leaving Fauldhouse etc in a bad way, or potentially even killing the club off.

 

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