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1 hour ago, FairWeatherFan said:

Until, what a month ago, the SJFA were repping the East Region and were trying for their all in approach which meant East Region under the Lowland.

They were never going to have Tayside representation in the Highland pyramid discussion. It's a sign of defeat.

The Highland pyramid discussions are just the continuation of what began 18 months ago.

Are Highland Pyramid discussions ongoing ??

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2 hours ago, Whitburn Vale said:

As far as BCFC are concerned it ain't going tae happen burnie nor should it.

Any travel issues north are null and void because of the new AWPR and Brechin are in northern Angus as it is!!

They would be crazy,it will be far easier to get back up out of the HL than what it would be to get out of the LL!!

Good point re easier route back in.

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2 minutes ago, Doonhamer1969 said:

Are Highland Pyramid discussions ongoing ??

Theres a meeting soon between the HL,NRJFA and the NCL.

The NCL have always been pyramid friendly,feel the way forward would be to make 2 leagues below the HL on a regional basis.

Say Dundee,Angus Aberdeen city,Aberdeenshire sides in one league and Highland and Moray teams in another.

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6 minutes ago, Doonhamer1969 said:

Are Highland Pyramid discussions ongoing ??

Apparently so. Have been several mentions of a meeting over it between the HL, north region and NCL.

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7 minutes ago, Doonhamer1969 said:

Are Highland Pyramid discussions ongoing ??

They are. Still early days and very loose to how it's meant to operate.

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3 hours ago, Whitburn Vale said:

As far as BCFC are concerned it ain't going tae happen burnie nor should it.

Any travel issues north are null and void because of the new AWPR and Brechin are in northern Angus as it is!!

They would be crazy,it will be far easier to get back up out of the HL than what it would be to get out of the LL!!

The problem for clubs like Brechin isn't how far the games are from their town but their players.

Most players come from the central belt and it's not uncommon for teams to train in the central belt twice a week and meet players for away games at the ground. They only see Brechin in for home matches.

If suddenly player needs to head to Banff and Buchan every week they just won't attract those players.

I can see why from Brechins point of view they would do all they can to get around this.

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1 minute ago, invergowrie arab said:

The problem for clubs like Brechin isn't how far the games are from their town but their players.

Most players come from the central belt and it's not uncommon for teams to train in the central belt twice a week and meet players for away games at the ground. They only see Brechin in for home matches.

If suddenly player needs to head to Banff and Buchan every week they just won't attract those players.

I can see why from Brechins point of view they would do all they can to get around this.

But you're only changing it to suit 4 clubs within the pyramid.

There's been the likes of Peterhead who have had guys like Willie Gibson & Greg Fleming signed while being based in Dumfries area. Think they train in forfar(?). If Peterhead or Elgin get relegated back to the Highland they'd be changing how they operate as well.

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Allowing Tayside into the LL creates a really unfair population bias, about 4 million of Scotlands 5.4 million residents live in the lowland area catchment and changing that would bring another 270k into the lowland league catchment, no way would parity be justified between HL and LL if that happened.

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3 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

But you're only changing it to suit 4 clubs within the pyramid.

There's been the likes of Peterhead who have had guys like Willie Gibson & Greg Fleming signed while being based in Dumfries area. Think they train in forfar(?). If Peterhead or Elgin get relegated back to the Highland they'd be changing how they operate as well.

I think it's tough shit.

I'm just saying I can understand why they are trying and it's not just an issue of the distance of Brechin to Wick v Brechin to Berwick.

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The LL could have agreed to Option Z, but didn't so maybe they are OK with that imbalance. It only becomes a problem if automatic promotion was brought in and don't hold your breath on that ever happening.

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The problem for clubs like Brechin isn't how far the games are from their town but their players.
Most players come from the central belt and it's not uncommon for teams to train in the central belt twice a week and meet players for away games at the ground. They only see Brechin in for home matches.
If suddenly player needs to head to Banff and Buchan every week they just won't attract those players.
I can see why from Brechins point of view they would do all they can to get around this.
Brechin are looking at a 3rd successive relegation. Clearly attracting players from the Central belt isn't working.

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45 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Allowing Tayside into the LL creates a really unfair population bias, about 4 million of Scotlands 5.4 million residents live in the lowland area catchment and changing that would bring another 270k into the lowland league catchment, no way would parity be justified between HL and LL if that happened.

The major population centres in Scotland already have representation in the national leagues. If you breakdown the semi-professional structure that most people try to include into the pyramid (HL,LL SoS, EoS, NCL & SJFA) it isn't as dramatic as 4-1. Highland Area = 74. Lowland Area = 156. Just over 2-1.

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9 minutes ago, Jack Burton said:
58 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said:
The problem for clubs like Brechin isn't how far the games are from their town but their players.
Most players come from the central belt and it's not uncommon for teams to train in the central belt twice a week and meet players for away games at the ground. They only see Brechin in for home matches.
If suddenly player needs to head to Banff and Buchan every week they just won't attract those players.
I can see why from Brechins point of view they would do all they can to get around this.

Brechin are looking at a 3rd successive relegation. Clearly attracting players from the Central belt isn't working.

Yep have said this before. They are signing low ability players (for their division) and to be fair the other Angus clubs also look south but if they were playing HFL they'd attract the sort of player Cove are shedding.

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Simple update to the Lowland League constitution

c) In the event of Club 42 losing the Pyramid Play-Off Match, it will be relegated to the SHFL League if its Registered Ground is located lots of their players live North of Degree of Latitude 56,4513N or to the SLFL if its Registered Ground is located South of Degree of Latitude 56,4513N  prefers and it shall thereafter comply with the rules and regulations of the relevant league.

Sorted 🙂

 

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Why is everyone saying they are going to Elgin on a Tuesday night. Do they think they are going to get win the Top WOS league or the top EOS or SOS league and then win the playoff matches and then on top of that have the correct facilities/stadium to even get into the lowland league.  Then Elgin need to get relegated from Scottish division 2 in order for these teams to play Elgin in the Lowland league

All this argument about Elgin is just utter crap, Joke or no Joke

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The prospect of having to play an away game on a rainy Tuesday night in February against Elgin City if a junior club ever made it into the SPFL used to be one of the main arguments trotted out against the pyramid. 

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2 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

The LL could have agreed to Option Z, but didn't so maybe they are OK with that imbalance. It only becomes a problem if automatic promotion was brought in and don't hold your breath on that ever happening.

No, they couldn't have agreed to that and you know that.

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1 minute ago, Marten said:

No, they couldn't have agreed to that and you know that.

It was a ridiculous idea. Why did the West Region recommend the only option that meant another League had to alter its format to accommodate Junior clubs? Why would they change something they probably think was successful for someone else. No wonder they don't want ANYTHING to do with the Juniors.

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It came from Rod Petrie rather than the SJFA by all accounts. If the LL were hugely bothered about the imbalance they had a solution provided to them. Not having the SJFA anywhere near the pyramid took priority over that so the imbalance may not be much of a concern.

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