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Luncarty look to be West of the River Tay on that map.
Is there a case for tier 6 WoSFL league entry possibly?

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4 minutes ago, G4Mac said:

Not for me.

You are complicating, again, a simple process.

Ersjfa stay eos.

Wrsjfa go wosfl.

North of tay boundary go HL.

South go LL.

Really, really simple and straight forward. No ambiguity.

It really isn't that difficult is it.

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26 minutes ago, the sniper said:

Surely to end all the confusion of if the wos didnt want fauldhouse or any other west Lothian teams it would state the areas eligible to apply make things crystal clear

I'm sure that will be made clear once the application process is confirmed in a a couple of weeks.  No point encouraging clubs to submit expressions of interest if they are not going to be accepted.

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I'm sure that will be made clear once the application process is confirmed in a a couple of weeks.  No point encouraging clubs to submit expressions of interest if they are not going to be accepted.
A couple of weeks scottish junior fitba will have had 28 more meltdowns alan Camelon fan will try to force more people into his way of thinking and the hoose will be linked to the Estonian first division

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Been sitting trying to figure out a potential setup below the Highland League for the forseeable future, would this be viable? In my mind Banks O' Dee will be in the Highland League before this would happen. Also unsure if Newburgh would favour a Tayside league over the EoSFL, so did not include them.

Tier 6 – North Caledonian League (16 teams)

Tier 6 – Tayside Premier League (10 teams)

Orkney
Golspie Sutherland
Thurso
Invergordon
Inverness Athletic
Bonar Bridge
St Duthus
Halkirk Utd
Bunillidh Thistle
Bridge of Don Thistle
Montrose Roselea
Hermes
Culter
Maud
Nairn St. Ninian
Dyce Juniors

Lochee Utd
Broughty Athletic
Downfield
Dundee North End
Luncarty
Carnoustie Panmure
Forfar West End
Kirriemuir Thistle
Scone Thistle
Tayport

Tier 7 – North Caledonian First Division (12 teams)

Tier 7 – Tayside First Division (8 teams)

Colony Park
Hall Russell Utd
Aberdeen East End
Ellon Utd
Dufftown
Stonehaven
Banchory St. Ternan
Buckie Rovers
Burghead Thistle
Deveronside
Forres Thistle
Fraserburgh Utd

Arbroath Victoria
Brechin Victoria
Blairgowrie
Coupar Angus
Dundee Violet
East Craigie
Forfar Albion
Lochee Harp

Tier 8 – North Caledonian Second Division (12 teams)

 

Longside
Stoneywood Parkvale
Sunnybank
Aberdeen Uni
Buchanhaven Hearts
Cruden Bay
Glentanar
Islavale
New Elgin
Newmachar Utd
Spey Valley Utd
Whitehills

 

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14 minutes ago, the sniper said:
28 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:
I'm sure that will be made clear once the application process is confirmed in a a couple of weeks.  No point encouraging clubs to submit expressions of interest if they are not going to be accepted.

A couple of weeks scottish junior fitba will have had 28 more meltdowns alan Camelon fan will try to force more people into his way of thinking and the hoose will be linked to the Estonian first division

What makes you think they should get straight in at that level? 😉

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The good thing about Luncarty's situation is that the line of latitude can easily be moved north of their ground without it affecting the status any Dundee club. Or there could be a trade deal with Luncarty going south the and Tayport going north. 🙃

3 hours ago, Griffin said:

No decisions made yet. We dont want to rush into anything until we are sure we are making the right decision for the club.

Grade is not something we are tied up in. It is about making sure we are sustainable and able to continue playing competitive football for another 110 years as a club

Well one club has left and apparently another is to follow, plus whatever happens in West Lothian - so I'm not sure how competitive a league you think you're it's going to be with Kennoway, Lochore, Lochgelly, the four new clubs and West Calder.

3 minutes ago, RossBFaeDundee said:

Been sitting trying to figure out a potential setup below the Highland League for the forseeable future, would this be viable?

No. The Aberdeen teams should be going to Dundee not Inverness and beyond.

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1 hour ago, cmontheloknow said:

At least 5 of the current Largs side are from the Greenock area.

Erm yes - so of course in the event of Largs being in a WoS league there'll be a hard border set up between Wemyss Bay/Skelmorlie, with Junior officials searching the 901 bus to stop non-league footballers from betraying 'the grade'.

I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make any more: the first reason for them to move was a non-existent 'rivalry'; then it was transfers between them and other clubs possibly entering the pyramid; now its individual players who play outwith their local catchment area. A new league inside the pyramid changes nothing in terms of transfers or player contracts though. Indeed, you could argue that clubs like Greenock could benefit from gaining a higher profile as a bigger fish in a much reduced junior pond.

If either that consideration or the 'tradition' of the juniors holds them back, then that's fine. They stand to gain very little from entering the pyramid and vice versa.

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There is no 'place' for a rump Junior league cut off from the rest of the semi pro clubs. If anything, there should be a coming together of the SAFA the lower reaches of the SJFA. No idea what you're on about re: Oban and Glasgow Uni. I think, like most other parts of the world, you should be able to go from public park to top flight, provided standards are met along the way.

We disagree on the objective here entirely so there's not much else to point out other than that your goal is:

i) unlikely to be shared by a majority of fans in Scottish football as a whole, never mind the non-league ranks and

ii) utopian and unrealistic, given that it's 20-and-fucking-20 and yet we're only now on the brink of setting up a feeder league for by far the largest population catchment area in the country.

Given how ridiculously difficult it has been to get the current stage, I fail to see where any drive will come from to 'sort out' the rest of non-league football on behalf of participants who really don't want change to happen. It's best to let sleeping dogs lie and if that annoys the OCD contingent who want to draw an ever bigger and shinier pyramid on the Wikipedia page of Scottish football then that's just tough.

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What makes you think they should get straight in at that level? 
Theres a sign going up saying fauldhouse twinned with tallinn and brannans butchers are now selling verivorst and other Estonian delights

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17 minutes ago, Griffin said:

Not for Paramore fans....
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I had to look that up.......

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5 minutes ago, the sniper said:
10 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:
What makes you think they should get straight in at that level? emoji6.png

Theres a sign going up saying fauldhouse twinned with tallinn and brannans butchers are now selling verivorst and other Estonian delights

Lovely place Tallinn, would be an awesome away day, although the jukebox in the Depeche Mode theme bar gets a bit repetitive.

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The good thing about Luncarty's situation is that the line of latitude can easily be moved north of their ground without it affecting the status any Dundee club. Or there could be a trade deal with Luncarty going south the and Tayport going north.
No. The Aberdeen teams should be going to Dundee not Inverness and beyond.
The most important word in your reply is "apparently"
As I said we are not tied up in grades. We will take what time we have to make sure we have the maximum amount of information available to us before we make any decision.

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1 hour ago, the sniper said:

Surely to end all the confusion of if the wos didnt want fauldhouse or any other west Lothian teams it would state the areas eligible to apply make things crystal clear

I'm sure they will. But they've already said about geographical integrity so you can  e assured you would be rejected from wosfl

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I'm sure they will. But they've already said about geographical integrity so you can  e assured you would be rejected from wosfl
You never know

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10 hours ago, Cyclizine said:

And Inverness-shire before that...

Though only if you back before the foundation of the SFA.

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Just now, cmontheloknow said:

Twitter implosion about to follow...?

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Genuinely concerned of what we might see in response to that from you know who. Think that strongly suggests an expression of interest will be winging its way to the LL chairman as it has been written in a leading way that is designed to prompt positive responses.

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Might have been covered, is applications open for 1 league of 16? If more than that, as there now looks to be heading that way, how is it decided who gets entry?

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1 minute ago, BTID said:

Might have been covered, is applications open for 1 league of 16? If more than that, as there now looks to be heading that way, how is it decided who gets entry?

From the statement yesterday they were wanting to gauge numbers from the expressions of interest, so seriously doubt it will be capped at 16.

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