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Does that not say more about the standard of the League that they have moved into if one of the worst teams in the West Region can be challenging at the top of the EOS League [emoji848]
They're challenging near the top of the East 1st Division Conference A, not the top league in the EoSFL.
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2 hours ago, EdinburghBlue said:

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If it weren’t for the grammar and spelling, this could have come from TJ.

He has no real grasp about what he is actually writing about, none whatsoever.  Did he bother to get off his lazy arse and go and actually find out how clubs in the East are finding the Pyramid? No, just pish in defence of his pal TJ.

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4 minutes ago, glensmad said:
18 minutes ago, andy25 said:
Does that not say more about the standard of the League that they have moved into if one of the worst teams in the West Region can be challenging at the top of the EOS League emoji848.png

They're challenging near the top of the East 1st Division Conference A, not the top league in the EoSFL.

….and they ditched 99% of the  squad from the Juniors days.

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6 minutes ago, AT4EVA said:
3 hours ago, EdinburghBlue said:
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If it weren’t for the grammar and spelling, this could have come from TJ.

Total agree with the column. Well written and accurate summary.

Semi serious question - what is it about Auchinleck that makes their fans so blinkered and faithful to "The Grade"?

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9 minutes ago, AT4EVA said:
3 hours ago, EdinburghBlue said:
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If it weren’t for the grammar and spelling, this could have come from TJ.

Total agree with the column. Well written and accurate summary.

Accurate summary? Even though it's full of inaccuracies as already pointed out?

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Does that not say more about the standard of the League that they have moved into if one of the worst teams in the West Region can be challenging at the top of the EOS League [emoji848]
There are currently 2 players left from the squad from the junior days. Add in the new facility, the better standard of league and better overall prospects for players joining the club, then it absolutely doesn't say more about the standard of the leagues. The league the club play in now is of a far greater level than the one it left.

Your view is a particularly narrow one.

The players now playing for the club wouldn't have even considered playing for it if it had stayed in the juniors.

But there are those who will continue to stick their head in the sand and portray the eos as a poor standard, and the LL, and regurgitate that the juniors is far better by comparison.....[emoji85]
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32 minutes ago, andy25 said:

Does that not say more about the standard of the League that they have moved into if one of the worst teams in the West Region can be challenging at the top of the EOS League emoji848.png

Hardly they've overhauled their team and attracted players who woulsnt have went to dunipace in west 2nd division

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Why is your question only “semi serious”

 

Here is a serious reply.

 

Auchinleck as a community have had great benefit of being part of the junior grade. There is a sense of pride of what has been achieved. Don’t think there is anything wrong with being loyal to a grade of football that is unique and has been embedded in an areas culture for years. The irony is that Auchinleck as a club are light years ahead of the majority of the aspirational clubs craving to leave junior football and a lot of the clubs who have already left. This is both on and off the pitch. Another point I make is that it’s unclear at the moment what route the club will take, and probably the feelings will be mixed between supporters and still up for debate over the next few weeks. I also think it’s ironic that the word “blinkered” is being used as that could be pointed at both sides of the debate.

 

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Semi serious question - what is it about Auchinleck that makes their fans so blinkered and faithful to "The Grade"?
No ill will towards Talbot as they are a fantastically well run Community Club, it is merely a big fish in a small pool scenario. Celtic supporters would likewise panic if they were invited to a European Super League due to the drubbings that would follow, only Uncle Peters bank balance would benefit from such a thing.
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Poll was retweeted by Kilwinning, Irvine Meadow, Kilbirnie, Girvan, Irvine Vics, Thorniewood, Yoker, Annbank, Rossvale and Ardrossan Winton Rovers' academy.
And if the clubs wish to remain faithful to the sjfa and their "grade' so be it. That is their choice. Good luck to them, but don't hold back those that want to join the pyramid. This is the exact reason a wos is imperative, it is the only option that allows everyone to make their choice and get what they want, individually, as a club.
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7 minutes ago, southerner said:

Why is your question only “semi serious”

 

Here is a serious reply.

 

Auchinleck as a community have had great benefit of being part of the junior grade. There is a sense of pride of what has been achieved. Don’t think there is anything wrong with being loyal to a grade of football that is unique and has been embedded in an areas culture for years. The irony is that Auchinleck as a club are light years ahead of the majority of the aspirational clubs craving to leave junior football and a lot of the clubs who have already left. This is both on and off the pitch. Another point I make is that it’s unclear at the moment what route the club will take, and probably the feelings will be mixed between supporters and still up for debate over the next few weeks. I also think it’s ironic that the word “blinkered” is being used as that could be pointed at both sides of the debate.

 

The grade that taxes clubs for signing players from Senior football, has done almost sod all to raise the profile of the Junior Cup in recent years by ditching the Friday semis, losing network TV coverage and providing no sponsorship money / prize money until the extremely latter stages of its flagship tournament, who self fund themselves by going against SFA protocol and fining players / clubs?

What did the SJFA ever do for US? Not a Judean People's Front question, but a straight-forward one. The pyramid negotiations have been, on evidence presented, utterly shambolic.

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6 minutes ago, southerner said:

Auchinleck as a community have had great benefit of being part of the junior grade. There is a sense of pride of what has been achieved. Don’t think there is anything wrong with being loyal to a grade of football that is unique and has been embedded in an areas culture for years. The irony is that Auchinleck as a club are light years ahead of the majority of the aspirational clubs craving to leave junior football and a lot of the clubs who have already left. This is both on and off the pitch. Another point I make is that it’s unclear at the moment what route the club will take, and probably the feelings will be mixed between supporters and still up for debate over the next few weeks. I also think it’s ironic that the word “blinkered” is being used as that could be pointed at both sides of the debate.

Why is it ironic that clubs behind Auchinleck on and off the pitch want to enter the pyramid and have a chance to improve themselves as clubs and have a chance to progress?  

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40 minutes ago, andy25 said:

Does that not say more about the standard of the League that they have moved into if one of the worst teams in the West Region can be challenging at the top of the EOS League emoji848.png

I can't tell if you're kidding or not.

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^^^truly bizarre response from G4Mac. The clubs that retweeted that are the ones likely to be considering moving.

Bizarre? Why is it bizarre exactly?

 

The post I quoted wasnt really about the clubs who said they want to move, it was more to do with the 50/50 outcome of the poll conducted. Clubs wanting to stay as part of the sjfa and move into the pyramid (not going to happen it seems) or going alone into a wosfl (most likely to hapoen).

 

What is bizarre about stating clubs need to choose for themselves whether they want to join the pyramid or stay junior?

 

You really are on fire.

 

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What is this fascination with a "grade"? I don't see Buckie Thistle, Fraserburgh or Lossiemouth fans, for example, going on about the Highland League in those terms. And the Highland League has been on the go for 126 years.

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