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16 minutes ago, jc1 said:

As I said we are trying to get as much info as possible and see what ALL our options are

Parkcircus on here probably.

Eosfl.com in the committee section for the league has an email for David Baxter, believe he's still Secretary for both EoS and LL so could point you in right direction for both considerations.

[email protected]

[email protected]

 

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22 minutes ago, jc1 said:

We as a club now need to look at the possibilities west or east

Guessing that East would be accepted without a problem by the EoS but what about the West? If controlled by Lowland League in the first instance would they allow a Lothians side in?

If ERSJA southern clubs now opt for the EoS then, at least, they will know where they stand for the years to come and can plan accordingly.

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4 minutes ago, jc1 said:

As I said we are trying to get as much info as possible and see what ALL our options are

On the EoS website, front page, links to the criteria;

https://www.eosfl.com/

Membership applications.

Entry Criteria and Application Forms for membership of the East of Scotland Football Association and the East of Scotland Football League can be accessed here and here and when complete should be submitted to -

[email protected]

Currently, the member clubs are being canvassed on league structure for next season, which will either be no change (ie new entrants would start in one of the Conferences), or move to a Premier - First - Second set-up with new entrants starting in the Second.

 

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18 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said:

You shouldn't be going west to jump the queue. Your in the east you should go their whether its tier 7 or 8. You shouldn't get to bypass things because yous didnt have the nerve to do it before and I like fauldhouse 

Honestly think you damage things with these types of posts.  Jc comes on here and posts genuinely asking for advice and gets a hostile reaction from you.  You do it to others as well.

Clubs have stayed junior for various reasons and are gradually moving over.  They should be accommodated in the seniors like the EoS have done not told "You didn't have the nerve to join so get to the bottom of the queue".

FWIW I think they should join the EoS not WoS just don't see the need for replies like your one.

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18 minutes ago, jc1 said:

As I said we are trying to get as much info as possible and see what ALL our options are

Ur options are straight forward eosfl or ersjfa

If eosfl was letting you in at tier 6 you wouldn't contemplate going to the west

Nothing personal I like u. Ur a good poster and you promote your team well on here but that's just silly letting yous go west

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10 minutes ago, Dev said:

Guessing that East would be accepted without a problem by the EoS but what about the West? If controlled by Lowland League in the first instance would they allow a Lothians side in?

If ERSJA southern clubs now opt for the EoS then, at least, they will know where they stand for the years to come and can plan accordingly.

I can't see the logic in a WoSFL going down the road of accepting clubs from EoS territory eg. West Lothian.

If that was the case, Blackburn could apply to WoS to safeguard tier 6 next season, and probably be guaranteed entry given we're a Licenced club.  It would get messy.

Makes no sense, there's needs to be a Salt n Sauce line between EoS and WoS.  I'm sure there will be more than enough interest from genuine west area clubs.

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19 minutes ago, jc1 said:

As I said we are trying to get as much info as possible and see what ALL our options are

Good luck to you guys, I genuinely hope you'll make the move as I enjoyed it the few times I watched Fauldhouse and I wouldn't like to see you left behind (even if that's your own choice). I hope it works out well.

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7 minutes ago, stanley said:

Honestly think you damage things with these types of posts.  Jc comes on here and posts genuinely asking for advice and gets a hostile reaction from you.  You do it to others as well.

Clubs have stayed junior for various reasons and are gradually moving over.  They should be accommodated in the seniors like the EoS have done not told "You didn't have the nerve to join so get to the bottom of the queue".

FWIW I think they should join the EoS not WoS just don't see the need for replies like your one.

Well if they get into the west and we draw them in a cup I wont be going.

I think it's perfectly acceptable to have a stance on this if you stand back and let one do it you will have complete chaos

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Just now, AlanCamelonfan said:

Well if they get into the west and we draw them in a cup I wont be going.

I think it's perfectly acceptable to have a stance on this if you stand back and let one do it you will have complete chaos

Yeah and I agree with you on that.  There should be boundaries in place so that clubs can't pick and choose between EoS and WoS.  I just think you discourage rather than encourage junior clubs to join the seniors with your posting style.

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I can't see the logic in a WoSFL going down the road of accepting clubs from EoS territory eg. West Lothian.
If that was the case, Blackburn could apply to WoS to safeguard tier 6 next season, and probably be guaranteed entry given we're a Licenced club.  It would get messy.
Makes no sense, there's needs to be a Salt n Sauce line between EoS and WoS.  I'm sure there will be more than enough interest from genuine west area clubs.
With Dunipace now in EOS a dividing line is fairly straightforward to create & impliment. Some co-ordinate between Forth & Harthill (or Greenrigg).

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As the bodies who will be overseeing the creation of a WoSFL I would imagine that the LL and the EoSFL will view things in a pretty straight forward manner - quite correctly teams from the WRSJFA will be eligible for the new WoSFL and teams from the ERSJFA that are south of the Tay will be eligible for the EoSFL. Any other approach is similar to the geographical overlap argument that they were strong on and quite rightly prevented the ERSJFA being a competitor league to the EoSFL at Tier 6.

 

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Just now, stanley said:

Yeah and I agree with you on that.  There should be boundaries in place so that clubs can't pick and choose between EoS and WoS.  I just think you discourage rather than encourage junior clubs to join the seniors with your posting style.

I think I'm quite the opposite I've posted the pros a million times the difference that it's made to camelon.

I've always advocated and encouraged fauldhouse to join eosfl. 

I also believe it should be tier 7 conferences for next season to get this over the line

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2 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said:
6 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:
I can't see the logic in a WoSFL going down the road of accepting clubs from EoS territory eg. West Lothian.
If that was the case, Blackburn could apply to WoS to safeguard tier 6 next season, and probably be guaranteed entry given we're a Licenced club.  It would get messy.
Makes no sense, there's needs to be a Salt n Sauce line between EoS and WoS.  I'm sure there will be more than enough interest from genuine west area clubs.

With Dunipace now in EOS a dividing line is fairly straightforward to create & impliment. Some co-ordinate between Forth & Harthill (or Greenrigg).

Eastern borders of North and South Lanarkshire is the easy guide.

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39 minutes ago, jc1 said:

We as a club now need to look at the possibilities west or east

I'm sure either will be possible if the club adopts a particular stance in favour of one or the other... but in the long-term I think you'd be far better off pursuing the EoS route rather than WoS.

You're bound to have plenty contacts at East region clubs - just give them a bell and ask away? or email the league reps noted on the EoS website.

Good luck! 

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22 minutes ago, stanley said:

Honestly think you damage things with these types of posts.  Jc comes on here and posts genuinely asking for advice and gets a hostile reaction from you.  You do it to others as well.

Clubs have stayed junior for various reasons and are gradually moving over.  They should be accommodated in the seniors like the EoS have done not told "You didn't have the nerve to join so get to the bottom of the queue".

FWIW I think they should join the EoS not WoS just don't see the need for replies like your one.

Everyone concerned has been very patient with the juniors, the pyramid is starting to function and you are welcome to join but if not get on with your own brand of football and we'll get on with ours

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‘Hi Tom, i’ve got some round holes that I need pegs for can you help?’

‘I’ve got some perfectly good square pegs here’

‘No good I need round pegs’

‘What’s wrong with square pegs, square pegs are ideal’

‘Forget it, I’ll get my own’

‘My square peg plan has been bizarrely rejected, i ask all to stand with me and not go for the round pegs, how do you know they’ll work? Probably in short supply too, Are the they even pegs? Square pegs are the best option just now’

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42 minutes ago, Black & Red Socks said:

As the bodies who will be overseeing the creation of a WoSFL I would imagine that the LL and the EoSFL will view things in a pretty straight forward manner - quite correctly teams from the WRSJFA will be eligible for the new WoSFL and teams from the ERSJFA that are south of the Tay will be eligible for the EoSFL. Any other approach is similar to the geographical overlap argument that they were strong on and quite rightly prevented the ERSJFA being a competitor league to the EoSFL at Tier 6.

 

I just wish they would get on with accepting applications and getting things moving

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Fauldhouse are attempting a trade deal to become part of north Lanarkshire so were are eligible for the wos league in return west Lothian recieve shotts and a lifetime supplies of bells pies

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3 minutes ago, the sniper said:

Fauldhouse are attempting a trade deal to become part of north Lanarkshire so were are eligible for the wos league in return west Lothian recieve shotts and a lifetime supplies of bells pies

Sounds good, done deal 😂

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