Doonhamer1969 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, LongTimeLurker said: Harthill, Fauldhouse, Whitburn, Armadale and Stoneyburn are the ones you can make a case for on that although the last three are more of a stretch. If it speeds things along on having a fully functioning pyramid then maybe the end justifies the means. The latter 4 could have applied to the EoS anytime in the last 3 years, as 27 other Junior teams did. Their lack of action over that period should not be rewarded with instant Tier 6 status because they've suddenly decided they're 'kinna close tae Lanarkshire'. Start at the bottom, like the other EJFA sides who went to the EoS did. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, FairWeatherFan said: Again you keep calling it a free for all. Who's actually doing that? Somebody puts a job advert out every year, fairly low level set of qualifications required and little experience needed. The vast majority don't apply, because they aren't even looking, because they're happy where they are, and a wide variety of other reasons. Now for those that actually apply and meet the requirments, does that mean you get handed the job? No. And the reason why they get rejected could be for a variety of reasons. You keep jumping from no definitive border and offering up examples like HWU and WW choosing and being accepted into the WoS. As if you expect madness to ensue. And i'm here going "Why would the clubs apply there?" and "Why would the league accept them?" Nobody is doing it because the league doesn't actually exist. Why do we have rules and regulations for anything? at the risk of repeating myself for the umpteenth time, if you run a geographical/regional league, then common sense dictates that you define what areas you actually cover. West of Scotland League, the league name suggests it covers a specific area so define to the clubs what is classed as west of Scotland. Same in the east. Do you agree? That doesn't stop clubs from outside that area applying and setting out their case of why they should be an exception, but it sets the expectation of whether you should even bother and instead head for the league that actually covers the area you're in, and yes, if Fauldhouse apply it doesn't take a stretch to imagine that Armadale, Whitburn and a few others will also fancy it as they do talk to each other and aren't a million miles apart, and that is where is starts getting messy and a bit of a farce. Common Sense. Keeping it simple. Don't drop the ball when we're almost at the point of a sensibly constructed Pyramid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriot1 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Doonhamer1969 said: I'd call those 4 teams Cheating Barstewards. Doesn't mean they'll be accepted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer1969 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, patriot1 said: Doesn't mean they'll be accepted. True , and they shouldnt be imho. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer1969 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: Nobody is doing it because the league doesn't actually exist. Why do we have rules and regulations for anything? at the risk of repeating myself for the umpteenth time, if you run a geographical/regional league, then common sense dictates that you define what areas you actually cover. West of Scotland League, the league name suggests it covers a specific area so define to the clubs what is classed as west of Scotland. Same in the east. Do you agree? That doesn't stop clubs from outside that area applying and setting out their case of why they should be an exception, but it sets the expectation of whether you should even bother and instead head for the league that actually covers the area you're in, and yes, if Fauldhouse apply it doesn't take a stretch to imagine that Armadale, Whitburn and a few others will also fancy it as they do talk to each other and aren't a million miles apart, and that is where is starts getting messy and a bit of a farce. Common Sense. Keeping it simple. Don't drop the ball when we're almost at the point of a sensibly constructed Pyramid. Yup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: I thought you'd given-up Troothy Back in the country -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, never been to scotland said: All this border talk is getting very boring now! Indeed, I'm sure the EoS and LL will do what is neccesary to maintain "geographical integrity". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tout P'ti FC Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I'd call those leagues North East, North West, South East and South West.Fauldhouse spotted fleeing for the North by Northwest of Scotland League. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dev said: How about TJ resigns and the West Region joins the Pyramid at Tier 6. No strings attached whatsoever - not even All In. Wouldnlt the West Region need to call an EGM to agree that? also, the LL have already declared they don't want Junior involvement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, Le Tout P'ti FC said: Fauldhouse spotted fleeing for the North by Northwest of Scotland League. I'm the pilot........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, Burnie_man said: I'm the pilot........ Nae spoilers for those folks still livin' like it's 1959 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Fauldhouse getting a hard time on here for considering what's best for them. I'm sure they will do what they think is right and will be advised by the appropriate people. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Truthteller said: Back in the country Awesome......... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: Awesome......... -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthurlie1981 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Harthill, Fauldhouse, Whitburn, Armadale and Stoneyburn are the ones you can make a case for on that although the last three are more of a stretch. If it speeds things along on having a fully functioning pyramid then maybe the end justifies the means.Absolute nonsense. It needs to be done right. Those clubs knocked it back now want to bend the rules to get above clubs who took the chance. Stuff them. They made their bed now they have to lie in it and not move to another bed. Why would west clubs want them in to add to their journey time and costs? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: Nobody is doing it because the league doesn't actually exist. Why do we have rules and regulations for anything? at the risk of repeating myself for the umpteenth time, if you run a geographical/regional league, then common sense dictates that you define what areas you actually cover. West of Scotland League, the league name suggests it covers a specific area so define to the clubs what is classed as west of Scotland. Same in the east. Do you agree? That doesn't stop clubs from outside that area applying and setting out their case of why they should be an exception, but it sets the expectation of whether you should even bother and instead head for the league that actually covers the area you're in, and yes, if Fauldhouse apply it doesn't take a stretch to imagine that Armadale, Whitburn and a few others will also fancy it as they do talk to each other and aren't a million miles apart, and that is where is starts getting messy and a bit of a farce. Common Sense. Keeping it simple. Don't drop the ball when we're almost at the point of a sensibly constructed Pyramid. I remember kefc's argument for joining the EoSFL was a lot more persuasive. Certainly didn't resort to an imaginary line forcing clubs on either side of it without any thought or consideration as to why the want to be on the other side. Maybe try praising the positive aspects of joining the EoSFL over remaining Junior or applying to the WoSFL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnieGer Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Arthurlie1981 said: Absolute nonsense. It needs to be done right. Those clubs knocked it back now want to bend the rules to get above clubs who took the chance. Stuff them. They made their bed now they have to lie in it and not move to another bed. Why would west clubs want them in to add to their journey time and costs? This. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: I remember kefc's argument for joining the EoSFL was a lot more persuasive. Certainly didn't resort to an imaginary line forcing clubs on either side of it without any thought or consideration as to why the want to be on the other side. Maybe try praising the positive aspects of joining the EoSFL over remaining Junior or applying to the WoSFL. LOL, I don't think you've been paying attention to the last 1000+ pages Edited February 13, 2020 by Burnie_man 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, Doonhamer1969 said: The latter 4 could have applied to the EoS anytime in the last 3 years, as 27 other Junior teams did. Their lack of action over that period should not be rewarded with instant Tier 6 status because they've suddenly decided they're 'kinna close tae Lanarkshire'. Start at the bottom, like the other EJFA sides who went to the EoS did. Surely the pragmatic answer is to do what would have happened if the EoS and the south of Tay Bridge ERJFA divisions were to merge by mutual agreement: ERJSA Super Division South comes in at Tier 7 and the ERJSA Premier Division South comes in at Tier 8. The existing EoS clubs in the Tier 7 Conferences would be split in half i.e. to form Tier 7 and 8 divisions. Scone Thistle and Tayport could opt in or out. Luncarty - who knows! New clubs? These would run in parallel next season. The EoS would have to decide how to allocate the clubs for the following season and this would have to be decided before the start of next season - so the clubs know what they are playing for. You would then have the opportunity to avoid the situation of weaker clubs being hammered most weeks and all of the clubs would be in their rightful places for the start of 2021/22. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Burnie_man said: LOL, I don't think you've been paying attention for the last 1000+ pages.......... Well, how about pointing out the club (Dalkeith?) that recently got £750 from the EoSFL to go to ground improvements. That's not something the WoSFL can exactly offer. Because at this point the WoSFL doesn't have any funds or sponsors. You know what cups you'll be playing in, you know that the Alex Jack Cup can be a gateway to the Scottish Cup for those unlicenced. You might face trips to the Borders but you might face trips to D&G/South Ayrshire. You're recruiting youth players from on the door step of a bunch of EOS clubs and the u20s league might split West/East would they be forced Westwards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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