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Junior football, what is the future?

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They don't have to be from D&G.  Bonnyton Thistle, Edusport Academy (playing out of Hamilton originally) and East Kilbride FC were all accepted in the last 6 years. There might be another Bonnyton Thistle out there looking to start up a senior side and feel that the SoS is a better starting spot instead of West Region League Two.
in the case the west comes into the pyramid it all depends whether geographical limits are set in place by the sfa or not for feeder leagues

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1 minute ago, FairWeatherFan said:

They don't have to be from D&G.  Bonnyton Thistle, Edusport Academy (playing out of Hamilton originally) and East Kilbride FC were all accepted in the last 6 years. There might be another Bonnyton Thistle out there looking to start up a senior side and feel that the SoS is a better starting spot instead of West Region League Two.

Start-up sides would seem the likeliest to apply - no established club out of the SoS core area would be at all likely to. There doesn't appear to be any Saturday amateur football in the area these days...the local ammy league was down in numbers and eventually folded, with the remaining sides either chucking it altogether, going Sunday amateur or joining the SoS...Uppers, YM and Lochar being in the last category IIRC.

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Just now, GNU_Linux said:
6 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:
They don't have to be from D&G.  Bonnyton Thistle, Edusport Academy (playing out of Hamilton originally) and East Kilbride FC were all accepted in the last 6 years. There might be another Bonnyton Thistle out there looking to start up a senior side and feel that the SoS is a better starting spot instead of West Region League Two.

in the case the west comes into the pyramid it all depends whether geographical limits are set in place by the sfa or not for feeder leagues

Don't see how you can set geographic boundaries between different league associations. Not only do you have the overlap in the East, but you've got plenty of Junior clubs South of Bonnyton Thistle.

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1 hour ago, parsforlife said:

 


I wonder what position the HL is in to refuse applications if the applicant is licensed. If Banks o' dee applied do they have to be accepted? What if a tayside club got licensed?

 

I remain surprised that Banks O'Dee haven't already (re)applied, thereby 'testing the water' that the HFL is not a closed shop, as some posts claim on this forum.

If they do so now, and are successful, they would enter the pyramid (as HFL club 19) at tier 5. If they wait for the creation of an integrated pyramid in the north involving North Region juniors  (in say, a few years time ?), they would be admitted at tier 6 instead.   Where is the sense in that ?

 

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1 hour ago, Robert James said:

I remain surprised that Banks O'Dee haven't already (re)applied, thereby 'testing the water' that the HFL is not a closed shop, as some posts claim on this forum.

If they do so now, and are successful, they would enter the pyramid (as HFL club 19) at tier 5. If they wait for the creation of an integrated pyramid in the north involving North Region juniors  (in say, a few years time ?), they would be admitted at tier 6 instead.   Where is the sense in that ?

 

The chairman spat his dummy out after they failed in their bid to be elected to the HFL and now says they never wanted to be admitted anyway.  Some might say it's better being a big fish in a small pond. Pig and Jam article here.

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8 hours ago, Robert James said:

I remain surprised that Banks O'Dee haven't already (re)applied, thereby 'testing the water' that the HFL is not a closed shop, as some posts claim on this forum.

If they do so now, and are successful, they would enter the pyramid (as HFL club 19) at tier 5. If they wait for the creation of an integrated pyramid in the north involving North Region juniors  (in say, a few years time ?), they would be admitted at tier 6 instead.   Where is the sense in that ?

 

Seems quite a bit of sense for them.

  • Already licenced so they have the benefit of SFA membership
  • 26 game league season in a largely Aberdeenshire division
  • Big fish in a little pond so favourites to win the league and challenge in the cups

They'd be favourites if ever a proper structure is put in place, so it's not like they'd have to fear being a tier below for long. And this way they avoid a 38 game league season across the Grampian & Highland areas which must be a pure cost for them even if there's some bump in attendances.

 

 

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To solve the LL issue would it be possible to have 3 feeders into LL. East region as it is with the ERJFA clubs South of tay added.
West League which comprises of Strathclyde and South which would be current South league teams and all Ayrshire teams.
Or is this a no go as the bigger Ayrshire and Strathclyde teams want in the same division.
Within 10 years you would have a healthy LL and the top league in each region strong
2 promotion spots to LL

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3 hours ago, Fife Journeyman said:

To solve the LL issue would it be possible to have 3 feeders into LL. East region as it is with the ERJFA clubs South of tay added.
West League which comprises of Strathclyde and South which would be current South league teams and all Ayrshire teams.
Or is this a no go as the bigger Ayrshire and Strathclyde teams want in the same division.
Within 10 years you would have a healthy LL and the top league in each region strong
2 promotion spots to LL

Ayrshire going south logistoically probably isn't good bonnyton must do a lot of travel as for the East south shield final at lockerbie was 90 mins treck for both of us

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From somewhere like Hurlford, which is roughly in the middle of Ayrshire, you can get to Edinburgh in roughly the same amount of time it takes to get down to Dumfries. And places like Kirkcudbright and Wigtown are even further away.

That's not to say that Ayrshire couldn't eventually end up together with Dumfires & Galloway in some regional leagues at some point, but it's not the natural option that people outside of the area often think it must be.

Edited by craigkillie

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The EOSL are going to have a very successful Groundhop Weekend at the end of March:

Friday 29th March
Dunipace v Bonnyrigg (8pm)

Saturday 30th March
Camelon v Edinburgh Utd (11am)
Inverkeithing v Heriot-Watt Uni (2:15pm)
Blackburn v Preston (5:15pm)
Linlithgow v Jeanfield (8pm)

Sunday 31st March
Peebles v Newtongrange (12:30pm)

There could be up to a thousand spectators for the Linlithgow v Jeanfield game if both teams have a chance of winning the Conference C final

Why on earth are the Juniors not supporting the Groundhoppers?

For clubs it is not only a money making exercise but a great way to put our clubs on the football map.

The Hoppers may be bringing up to three coaches from England for the six game weekend and then there those coming up by car.  There will even be groundhoppers coming over from Germany

 

 

I had a chat with a fellow groundhopper about this a while ago.  Apparently the meeting with West Region JFA reps was going quite well but then this old guy put a stop to things.  It does not take much to fathom out who the old guy must have been but why on earth would he put a stop to such an innovative change that involved permutation of fixtures over three days many months hence?

The Groundhopper Rep could not understand what the problem was.  However, if he had known who he was dealing with and the stubborn resistance to any change and the problems the WRJFA  have had making advanced fixture permutations, the Rep would have known he was facing a battle that had no likelihood of a successful outcome.

Kennie has certainly improved the fixture making this season. But I still feel that there is a firm resistance to any innovations of this nature in the West Region.  Am I wrong? 

Does the West Region want their own Groundhop?  Or are we still sticking our head in the sand.

Edited by Pyramidic

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9 minutes ago, Ginaro said:

Larry just can't help making an arse of himself

 

Yeh that's a minter of a post.  Talbot, what a great achievement but for an official junior club account to reply like that is embarrassing.

Well done Auchinleck, a great day for a proud, superbly run club.

 

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Think the result for Talbot today should put this thread to bed. Junior football,especially in the west is thriving. We can all hope to get near the talbots status within our game,which makes for a healthy and competitive group of teams with hungry committee and supporters desperate to take part in what we witnessed today.  #naejuniorsnaepoint

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