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East of Scotland League 
Lothian Thistle-Hutchison Vale 1-0 Kelty Hearts 
Saughton Enclosure, Edinburgh 
Admission £6/£3 
Attendance 400 (at least 250 from Kelty. Taking into account the various neutrals and hoppers, probably well under 100 supporting the home team) 

This was my first visit to Saughton and, in fact, my first EOSFL game. From next season, with the invasion of junior clubs the EOSFL will be unrecognisable from the pretty lame league it currently is. Kelty and LTHV have dominated this league like no league has ever been dominated before. Kel'y (it must be pronounced using a glottal stop) had a 100% league record going into this game whilst LTHV dropped their first points of the season last weekend with a remarkable 5-5 draw against Leith Athletic. 

Saughton Enclosure isn't much to write home about but it indicates that the bar is set pretty low when it comes to ground licensing. There is nothing but grass banking around all four sides of the pitch apart from a recently installed prefabricated metal covered area which might just about shelter the whole of LTHV's support - about 75 people. There is a dreaded running track, 8 lanes down one side and six around the rest of the pitch. 

The sun was belting down and it confirmed my belief that there's only one thing worse than watching football in the cold and wet and that's watching it in blazing sunshine ... notwithstanding the bikinis on show. The pitch was hard and uneven and what skill either side might have had was well hidden. 

As for the match, Kelty will be asking themselves how they managed to lose it. They dominated the game from start to finish but a combination of desperate defending, inspired goalkeeping (especially the amazing save 15 minutes from time) and finishing which at times was truly comical meant that LTHV inflicted on Kelty their first league defeat of the season. 

LTHV went ahead, against the run of play, on 30 minutes much to the delight of their small covey of fans in the bus shelter. Straight from the kick off Kelty went forward and were awarded a dubious penalty when the keeper was adjudged to have brought down an onrushing forward. The man-of-the-match made amends by making a fine save. The raucous Kelty fans were distraught (it was good to see them maintaining the junior tradition of counting plenty of boozed up supporters in their number) and their frustation lasted the full 90 minutes. 

LTHV visit Central Park next weekend for what will probably turn out to be the championship decider. A win for them really would put the cat amongst the pigeons ... speaking of which, a highlight of the first half was watching crows and gulls working together to mob a buzzard hovering over the ground. 

I had to use public transport to get to and from this match from our Midlothian pied-a-terre. The missus had a more pressing need for the car. Good grief!!!! I could have driven home to Ayrshire and had my tea before I completed my journey of about 10 miles using Lothian Buses. The Number 38 is half hourly and after the match I had 20 minutes to wait for the next bus. So I started walking to the next stop ... and the next one ...and the next one and still the ETA was hardly changing. Through Gorgie, up Robertson Avenue, into Fountainbridge, up Shandon Place into Polworth and eventually with the ETA still 7 minutes I decided to wait for the bus outside Watsonians' Myreside ground. This got me to Morningside, where the pavement cafes and bars were doing a roaring trade, and the prospect of another 20 minute wait for a Number 15. At least this time 20 minutes was indeed 20 minutes. Lothian Buses have decided to no longer serve our village so with the 15 minute walk at the end it took me a full 1 hour 45 minutes to get home from Saughton. Still the 10k steps for the day were notched up with plenty to spare. 

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Having just looked at the EOS forum the EOS league should really be called "the greedy b *****d league"

when these charlatan junior teams leave the east region and eventually go we should have a party.

The only team with a genuine reason to go is Bonnyrigg, the majority are either hanging on to Bonnyrigg's coat tails, trying to avoid relegation to the south division, jumping for financial reasons, or trying to jump up 2 leagues because that's the only way they can progress.

Better off without them.

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There's no danger clubs like tynecastle Leith preston are just going to sit back and watch dinosaur land go above them tj is in cuckoo land

 

 

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5 hours ago, Truthteller said:
the promised land ahhhhhhhhhhhh  paradise !!!!!!!!!!
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I'm not sure how quoting a post that has been derided in the EoS section is helping your cause but thanks for trying anyway, it gives us a laugh

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6 hours ago, Truthteller said:

Having just looked at the EOS forum the EOS league should really be called "the greedy b *****d league"

when these charlatan junior teams leave the east region and eventually go we should have a party.

The only team with a genuine reason to go is Bonnyrigg, the majority are either hanging on to Bonnyrigg's coat tails, trying to avoid relegation to the south division, jumping for financial reasons, or trying to jump up 2 leagues because that's the only way they can progress.

Better off without them.

Why are we better off without them?

As someone who isn't the greatest fan of the Pyramid and who has tried and failed to find any reason for staying  - I genuinely would be interested in hearing your reasoning?

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12 minutes ago, Auld Heid said:

Why are we better off without them?

As someone who isn't the greatest fan of the Pyramid and who has tried and failed to find any reason for staying  - I genuinely would be interested in hearing your reasoning?

Please don't ask him to type any more. 

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6 hours ago, Truthteller said:

Having just looked at the EOS forum the EOS league should really be called "the greedy b *****d league"

when these charlatan junior teams leave the east region and eventually go we should have a party.

The only team with a genuine reason to go is Bonnyrigg, the majority are either hanging on to Bonnyrigg's coat tails, trying to avoid relegation to the south division, jumping for financial reasons, or trying to jump up 2 leagues because that's the only way they can progress.

Better off without them.

Yeah, how dare these clubs try to improve themselves and do what they think is best for their future?

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1 hour ago, drs said:

I'm not sure how quoting a post that has been derided in the EoS section is helping your cause but thanks for trying anyway, it gives us a laugh

Well it's hardly Newlandsfield or Beechwood Park (x2) or Meadow Park or New Victoria Park or Newtown Park  is it?

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3 minutes ago, Khufu2 said:

Well it's hardly Newlandsfield or Beechwood Park (x2) or Meadow Park or New Victoria Park or Newtown Park  is it?

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Is it the stand or the dugout

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11 hours ago, Khufu2 said:

Since they aren't members of the EoSFL how can their application for licensing be in the pipeline?

Eh maybe they have forwarded there payment and committed to the pyramid by stating intention to join eosl for next season. As the only 2 who have forwarded application and payment at this time they are being allowed to progress.  Nobody else is being accepted at this time until the mess we are currently in is resolved and clear way forward agreed.   Lthv have been awarded there licence which is totally separate to being allowed to progress with application. Would hope the embargo will be lifted soon and clear way forward agreed. We can but hope

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30 minutes ago, Truthteller said:

Is it the stand or the dugout

But it is the future (apparently)

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2 minutes ago, santheman said:

But it is the future (apparently)

Could only happen in this narrow minded country! A team trying to improve facilities are the subject of your derision. 

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39 minutes ago, Khufu2 said:

Well it's hardly Newlandsfield or Beechwood Park (x2) or Meadow Park or New Victoria Park or Newtown Park  is it?

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Put that in Gayfield and it will be at UAFA licence level!

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4 minutes ago, Baxter's Nutmeg said:

Could only happen in this narrow minded country! A team trying to improve facilities are the subject of your derision. 

I'm not deriding their facilities they are to be congratulated on that, just amazed  that it could potentially be a SPFL ground  in the near future.

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15 minutes ago, Baxter's Nutmeg said:

Could only happen in this narrow minded country! A team trying to improve facilities are the subject of your derision. 

It's not derision to point out that this is the future of tier 5 in the southern 80% of Scotland,  the way the pyramid is currently constructed. A  team with hardly any fans, and very basic facilities to add to the other teams with no fans who flit about from ground to ground, from town to town in order to participate at this level.  

It is ludicrous that the top junior clubs are being expected to be placed below this kind of stuff and on a par with glorified amateur teams playing glorified parks football. 

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45 minutes ago, bluebell1 said:

Eh maybe they have forwarded there payment and committed to the pyramid by stating intention to join eosl for next season. As the only 2 who have forwarded application and payment at this time they are being allowed to progress.  Nobody else is being accepted at this time until the mess we are currently in is resolved and clear way forward agreed.   Lthv have been awarded there licence which is totally separate to being allowed to progress with application. Would hope the embargo will be lifted soon and clear way forward agreed. We can but hope

When were LTHV awarded their licence ?

Who are the 2 clubs referred to above ?

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29 minutes ago, santheman said:

But it is the future (apparently)

Yes, yes it is - you move to the senior pyramid now or when the rest of the Junior grade moves when TJ gets everyone integrated. Either way the Junior "grade" is nearly dead.

Edited by Jason King

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1 hour ago, Khufu2 said:

Well it's hardly Newlandsfield or Beechwood Park (x2) or Meadow Park or New Victoria Park or Newtown Park  is it?

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Carnoustie Panmure think this is way beyond their capabilities.

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26 minutes ago, Baxter's Nutmeg said:

Could only happen in this narrow minded county of Ayrshire! A team trying to improve facilities are the subject of your derision. 

FTFY ;)

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5 minutes ago, Khufu2 said:

 A  team with hardly any fans, and very basic facilities

Sounds like the majority of teams in the Juniors imo.

Edited by Jason King

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