mcruic Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 The important thing is to move on. At a certain point in time, people were (and still are) unsure of the pyramid, for various reasons. It doesn't matter now. Once more clubs join, word will get around that it's not the Black Lagoon. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) There is at least one new Junior for 2020-21. As Rothie Rovers have been accepted to the NRSJFA subject to SJFA approval. Looks like the SJFA AGM is on the 23rd July. Which will be an indicator on what they expect the 2020-21 season to look like. Edited July 12, 2020 by FairWeatherFan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 47 minutes ago, Ginaro said: Guessing by this that Royal Albert and Bellshill never retained SJFA membership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcruic Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) Has there been any word on setups for next season? Or will this be decided at the SJFA AGM? North seems to be 14-9-10 (with Rothie Rovers coming in) East will be divided into North and South. 17 clubs in the North lends itself to a 9-8 division, but what about the South, with only 13 clubs - 2 divisions of 7 and 6, or a single division of 13? No possibility of any teams joining the East Region for next season? Edited July 13, 2020 by mcruic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, mcruic said: with Rothie Rovers coming in Please tell me this is a pun. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, mcruic said: Has there been any word on setups for next season? Or will this be decided at the SJFA AGM? North seems to be 14-9-10 (with Rothie Rovers coming in) East will be divided into North and South. 17 clubs in the North lends itself to a 9-8 division, but what about the South, with only 13 clubs - 2 divisions of 7 and 6, or a single division of 13? No possibility of any teams joining the East Region for next season? East will be 2 single divisions: 17 in the north, 13 in the south. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, mcruic said: Has there been any word on setups for next season? Or will this be decided at the SJFA AGM? North seems to be 14-9-10 (with Rothie Rovers coming in) East will be divided into North and South. 17 clubs in the North lends itself to a 9-8 division, but what about the South, with only 13 clubs - 2 divisions of 7 and 6, or a single division of 13? No possibility of any teams joining the East Region for next season? 14-9-10 17-13 Are what's expected. No rumours of anyone coming into the East Region. I imagine there would have been some gossip filtered through by now since there was plenty of advance noticed of Linlithgow, Bo'ness, Sauchie & Syngenta last year. At least they're not losing Syngenta and Livingston United as was feared. Still haven't heard where Syngenta are due to play this year though? Unless its been confirmed Grangemouth Stadium is permanent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcruic Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Marten said: East will be 2 single divisions: 17 in the north, 13 in the south. Going to be quite a spread - Lochee United v Forfar Albion, Whitburn v West Calder United, etc. seem like huge mismatches. 32-match season is quite a lot at junior level as well. Edited July 13, 2020 by mcruic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, mcruic said: Going to be quite a spread - Lochee United v Forfar Albion, Whitburn v West Calder United, etc. seem like huge mismatches. Yep, but I do prefer this over 17 teams divided over 2 divisions tbh, at least this is a bit more varied. There are bound to be a number of thumpings though. Hopefully some of the smaller clubs will be able to improve themselves through playing better opposition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcruic Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 It's a shame that Tayside seems to be seen as a "problem" for travel, even by teams in the East Juniors. There has to be a sensible way to include Tayside teams in the Pyramid that doesn't involve throwing them in below the Highland League. I'd quite like to see the EoS League regionalise at Tier 7 into Tayside/Fife and Lothian/Borders. Fife clubs don't seem to mind travelling to the Borders, so surely wouldn't object to travelling to Tayside... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, gogsy said: If you had a choice of going to the Borders or Tayside, why chose Tayside. That's kind of what the last of the Fife Juniors did (Tayport don't seem to count). With the majority of Fife semi-pro teams based in the South of Fife, i'm not convinced the "Midland League" that gets talked about would be very popular with them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, mcruic said: Fife clubs don't seem to mind travelling to the Borders There's five clubs in the Borders/England, hardly something for the Fife clubs joining the EOS to be worried about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcruic Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Ginaro said: There's five clubs in the Borders/England, hardly something for the Fife clubs joining the EOS to be worried about. True - my point was that there are a similar number of teams in Tayside that are more than a couple of miles further north than Dundee or Perth, which are roughly at the same latitude as the North of Fife. St. Andrews and Newburgh would be closer to most clubs than they are now. Most of the other Fife clubs are located close to the main Fife-Dundee road (the A92). An alternative would be a 3-way Tier 7. Tier 6 - EoS Premier - 16 clubs Tier 7/8 - EoS North (Tayside+North Fife), EoS Central (rest of Fife, West Lothian, Falkirk, Stirling), EoS South (Edinburgh, Midlothian, East Lothian, Borders) With the current clubs, this would result in something like this: Edited July 14, 2020 by mcruic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Pub League Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 In that scenario Linlithgow and Sauchie at Tier 8 wouldn't be allowed, is my understanding. If/When Stirling Uni are relegated from the LL into the EOS then the current EOS team will be removed from the league. And relegating clubs like Arniston and Easthouses to a level below current Junior sides would be stupendously wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, mcruic said: True - my point was that there are a similar number of teams in Tayside that are more than a couple of miles further north than Dundee or Perth, which are roughly at the same latitude as the North of Fife. St. Andrews and Newburgh would be closer to most clubs than they are now. Most of the other Fife clubs are located close to the main Fife-Dundee road (the A92). An alternative would be a 3-way Tier 7. Tier 6 - EoS Premier - 16 clubs Tier 7/8 - EoS North (Tayside+North Fife), EoS Central (rest of Fife, West Lothian, Falkirk, Stirling), EoS South (Edinburgh, Midlothian, East Lothian, Borders) With the current clubs, this would result in something like this: The EoS will be forming a single division below the Premier. They aren't going to split that by 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcruic Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, FairWeatherFan said: The EoS will be forming a single division below the Premier. They aren't going to split that by 3. So have a 16-team Premiership, a 16-team Championship, and split it at Tier 8... Hey presto - single-division Tier 6 and Tier 7 of 16 teams, and 3 Tier 8 leagues of 14-16 teams. Seems like a sensible structure to me. Essentially, it replicates the old East Juniors structure, with a region-wide Super and Premier League, and regional divisions below. Edited July 14, 2020 by mcruic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcruic Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Junior Pub League said: In that scenario Linlithgow and Sauchie at Tier 8 wouldn't be allowed, is my understanding. If/When Stirling Uni are relegated from the LL into the EOS then the current EOS team will be removed from the league. And relegating clubs like Arniston and Easthouses to a level below current Junior sides would be stupendously wrong. Arniston and Easthouses are at a playing level below many current junior clubs - I am not advocating putting them there straight away, but if all the current junior teams joined the pyramid, Arniston would end up below them on current strength... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 hours ago, mcruic said: So have a 16-team Premiership, a 16-team Championship, and split it at Tier 8... Hey presto - single-division Tier 6 and Tier 7 of 16 teams, and 3 Tier 8 leagues of 14-16 teams. Seems like a sensible structure to me. Best wait until nearer the time when it comes to drawing up plans. After 2018 everyone was expecting another wave of applications from the East Region. Syngenta announced their intentions basically a year in advance. Even hiring a coaching staff for their first and u20 teams. With Glenrothes Strollers coming in nearer the deadline. 2 clubs came in, none of those named. This year it was known for months that almost all of the Fife Juniors were leaving for the EoS. With that much notice the rest of the East Juniors had to consider their options? Not really, other than Livingston United's late attempt. Until Feb/March 2021 rolls around its all just a fantasy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 7 hours ago, mcruic said: So have a 16-team Premiership, a 16-team Championship, and split it at Tier 8... Hey presto - single-division Tier 6 and Tier 7 of 16 teams, and 3 Tier 8 leagues of 14-16 teams. Seems like a sensible structure to me. Essentially, it replicates the old East Juniors structure, with a region-wide Super and Premier League, and regional divisions below. The name "Championship" for the 2nd tier is already not sensible... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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