AsimButtHitsASix Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 9 hours ago, Tutankhamen said: Liars from the LL and EoSL getting called out. About time too. Nice one. Who lied and what did they lie about? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: Who lied and what did they lie about? The main thing seems to have about WoSFL Conferences at Tier 6. And the whole EoSFL not wanting anything to do with Tayside issue and not talking to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: Who lied and what did they lie about? @Tutankhamen said he wasn’t given a brown envelope by the SJFA but he definitely was. Edited May 7, 2020 by 8MileBU 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) The Junior grade deserved a better demise than this. Some of its appointed and self-appointed spokespeople should take a good look at themselves and ask how much their intransigence played a part. The pod asked a question about what the future of the grade was - well the fact virtually 100 clubs have left in the past 2 years answers that, eh? Edited May 7, 2020 by cmontheloknow 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 "Done Deal" Larry accusing people lying? I think it's safe to say he's not done much for the cause of Tayside clubs wanting to test the EoS and apply. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Lumet Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Whaal,is Larry fae Lochee bitter or what!!! Agree both the West guys have got a grasp of what's happening. If I remember correctly, on here this Larry Duncan character got himself in all sorts of argumentative fankles over Juniors in the Pyramid as LocheeBoy and had his ar*e ultimately handed to him by burnieman, who is probably still owed a proper apology for being on the end of all his inaccurate rantings and ravings and “done deal” claims. It seems that he has failed to learn any lessons and his podcast appearance was nothing short of embarrassing for him, his club and the rump of Junior sides left across a diminishing area of the country.There can be little doubt that the Tayside clubs have found themselves in the most difficult place of all the rump Juniors, but positive engagement with others in the Pyramid to try and find a good and proper place within it was required of people like Larry and they have failed horribly. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Larry spent most of the podcast whining about the terrible road to Aberdeen then was practically in tears about Tayside clubs having to regularly cross the Forth despite the supposedly wonderful road system. Thinks the border should be at Stonehaven which would put Montrose Roselea in an awkward place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Interesting podcast, I don't think Larry said that much wrong tbh. Yes, he was mistaken about Caledonian Braves, but the point about the conferences in the west could well be true. People claimed before the "bombshell" from the SFA recently that conferences at tier 6 would not be allowed and those claims were rubbished. Would the SFA really just have changed their mind because 2 (current) West Juniors lobbied to them? That sounds quite unlikely to me. We'll probably never know the full story behind it, but I it can't be ruled out that the LL & EOS in fact were warned by the SFA, thought they could push on with conferences as it wouldn't be veto'd and found out the SFA stuck to their views. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Marten said: I don't think Larry said that much wrong tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black & Red Socks Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Interesting podcast, I don't think Larry said that much wrong tbh.Surprised you would say this to be honest, perhaps your support of Lochee is colouring you viewpoint just a little?As has been mentioned in at least one previous observation, not all he said was wrong but the sheer, seething bitterness of just about everything he spoke of was awful. From this podcast appearance you can safely assume that there will continue to be little in the way of positive engagement with the Pyramid on his part and that will continue to be detrimental to his club and to the rest of the Tayside teams. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 48 minutes ago, Marten said: Interesting podcast, I don't think Larry said that much wrong tbh. Yes, he was mistaken about Caledonian Braves, but the point about the conferences in the west could well be true. People claimed before the "bombshell" from the SFA recently that conferences at tier 6 would not be allowed and those claims were rubbished. Would the SFA really just have changed their mind because 2 (current) West Juniors lobbied to them? That sounds quite unlikely to me. We'll probably never know the full story behind it, but I it can't be ruled out that the LL & EOS in fact were warned by the SFA, thought they could push on with conferences as it wouldn't be veto'd and found out the SFA stuck to their views. In fairness, you cannot rule it in either. It's difficult to rule in or out "interference" by outside sources given that RP attended many PWG meetings and Lowland/EoS/SoS meetings about the then proposed WoS, as did IM at which many matters were raised including Conferences at Tier 6. Make of it what you will but the WoS is here. Move on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, Dev said: In fairness, you cannot rule it in either. It's difficult to rule in or out "interference" by outside sources given that RP attended many PWG meetings and Lowland/EoS/SoS meetings about the then proposed WoS, as did IM at which many matters were raised including Conferences at Tier 6. Make of it what you will but the WoS is here. Move on. I'm not ruling anything in or out as I don't know the full details myself, but I'm also not taking the view that it all changed due to 2 clubs lobbying as gospel. As I said, we'll probably never know for sure. I agree that we need to move on, and hopefully there will be a solution for the north & Tayside in the near future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traffordab Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Marten said: Interesting podcast, I don't think Larry said that much wrong tbh. Yes, he was mistaken about Caledonian Braves, but the point about the conferences in the west could well be true. People claimed before the "bombshell" from the SFA recently that conferences at tier 6 would not be allowed and those claims were rubbished. Would the SFA really just have changed their mind because 2 (current) West Juniors lobbied to them? That sounds quite unlikely to me. We'll probably never know the full story behind it, but I it can't be ruled out that the LL & EOS in fact were warned by the SFA, thought they could push on with conferences as it wouldn't be veto'd and found out the SFA stuck to their views. I enjoyed it also all the officials contributed well thanks guys! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Marten said: Interesting podcast, I don't think Larry said that much wrong tbh. Yes, he was mistaken about Caledonian Braves, but the point about the conferences in the west could well be true... Somebody on that podcast needed to learn how to mute their microphone when they are not in the conversation and Larry Duncan definitely needed to dial back the liar and Maryhill rent accusations as it detracted from the other things he was saying. Beyond that though it was interesting to hear the sort of perspective from Larry Duncan that normally gets shouted down on here, e.g. the early meetings with Stewart Regan and how it was the clubs rather than TAJ that blocked progress on the pyramid which fits with how the superduperleague proposal unfolded, for example. Too bad the host was unaware of the full implications of Luncarty being accepted despite being north of the line in terms of their registered ground. Edited May 7, 2020 by LongTimeLurker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, 8MileBU said: @Tutankhamen said he wasn’t given a brown envelope by the SJFA but he definitely was. I gave my iron lung to TJ. Edited May 7, 2020 by Tutankhamen Eff thr SFA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humphrey Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Black & Red Socks said: Surprised you would say this to be honest, perhaps your support of Lochee is colouring you viewpoint just a little? As has been mentioned in at least one previous observation, not all he said was wrong but the sheer, seething bitterness of just about everything he spoke of was awful. From this podcast appearance you can safely assume that there will continue to be little in the way of positive engagement with the Pyramid on his part and that will continue to be detrimental to his club and to the rest of the Tayside teams. he was aperfect example of what Breadalbane and other progressive teams in Tayside are up against. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpLok Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 I agree Larry came across as bitter but given his posts here that wasn't a huge surprise. I was more surprised by how totally clueless David Cadenhead came across as! It was like he'd never heard of there being a dividing line between Highland League and Lowland League. If NRJFA officials are really that ignorant then it does explain why no progress has been made on dealing with the Tayside issue. And the Tayside clubs have got to take some responsibility for that because surely they should have at least had a conversation with the North Region clubs about potential structures at some point in the last 7 years since the Lowland League was created. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) The good news for Tayside clubs is that the Luncarty precedent means they should be able to put in applications now to the EoS that would be put to a vote of the member clubs. Ditto Breadalbane. Edited May 7, 2020 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriot1 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said: The good news for Tayside clubs is that the Luncarty precedent means they should be able to put in applications now to the EoS that would be put to a vote of the member clubs. Ditto Breadalbane. There is no Luncarty precedent. The EOS have stated that they will accept applications from any club in Scotland and it will be up to the clubs whether to accept them. There was never an issue with the location of the Luncarty ground as far as the EOS board were concerned. It was just posters on here who got into a detailed debate about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 44 minutes ago, patriot1 said: There is no Luncarty precedent. The EOS have stated that they will accept applications from any club in Scotland and it will be up to the clubs whether to accept them. There was never an issue with the location of the Luncarty ground as far as the EOS board were concerned. It was just posters on here who got into a detailed debate about it. If say Carnoustie applied, would they get in? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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