Junior football, what is the future?

[Dev]

2 hours ago, cmontheloknow said:

PPG is PPG, you don't arse about with home and away differences. IMO. Ave PPG can't ever be above 3 (as that kind of defeats the purpose of it!)

Fair enough but it seems to be an option. This is just a theoretical exercise as things stand but at least it gives something to post about until the next announcements etc.

You can have a PPG of 3.0 for Home matches and same for Away matches. Just add them up and they (obviously) come to 6 - which you could divide by 2 to get the adjusted PPG. 

[cmontheloknow]

I have always hated sums!

[Dev]

49 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

Bonnyton would only be in the same set of teams if you used serpentine order. Which wasn't the way the EoSFL did the Conferences in 2018-19. If they just go A-B-C-D-A-B-C-D. Bonnyton would either be in Conference A or Conference D.

Given that there's going to be conferences it isn't too critical where the non-Junior clubs are slotted in, provided they are kept apart. They will find their own level as all conferences should be made up of a range of clubs from the Top of the Premiership to the lowest positions in the League Two.

[Dev]

15 minutes ago, theesel1994 said:

Hurry up LL and announce constitution of new league to save page upon page of tables and different permutations on how conferences should be arrived at.

Spoil Sport!

[Dev]

Revised League One with Bellshill Athletic elevated appropriately:

Season 2019/20		League One	Overall			Home			Away			PPG	PPG		PPG
Seeding	Lg Table Pos.	(In PPG Pos.)	P	PTS		P	PTS		P	PTS		Home	Away		Total
30	3	Shettleston	19	43		9	21		10	22		2.33	2.20		4.53
31	1	Ardrossan Winton Rovers	22	44		13	23		9	21		1.76	2.33		4.09
32	2	Lanark United	23	44		12	24		11	20		2.00	1.81		3.81
36	10	Bellshill Athletic	19	31		8	18		11	13		2.25	1.18		3.43
37	5	Lesmahagow Juniors	25	42		11	22		14	20		2.00	1.42		3.42
38	4	Port Glasgow Juniors	24	43		14	32		10	11		2.28	1.10		3.38
39	6	Greenock Juniors	22	35		11	18		11	17		1.63	1.54		3.17
40	8	Glasgow Perthshire	21	32		11	18		10	14		1.63	1.40		3.03
41	9	Larkhall Thistle	22	32		12	13		10	19		1.08	1.90		2.98
42	11	Girvan	19	24		9	14		10	10		1.55	1.00		2.55
43	7	Carluke Rovers	26	33		15	23		11	10		1.53	0.90		2.43
44	12	Maryhill	21	23		10	10		11	13		1.00	1.18		2.18
45	15	East Kilbride Thistle	21	17		7	11		14	6		1.57	0.42		1.99
49	13	Kello Rovers	21	21		10	8		11	13		0.80	1.18		1.98
50	14	Wishaw Juniors	19	18		10	13		9	5		1.30	0.55		1.85
51	16	Royal Albert	22	10		11	8		11	2		0.72	0.18		0.90

[glensmad]

It's maybe not an ideal solution but it's a bit of a moot point unless the season had been curtailed much earlier than it was. Two-thirds of the way through the season as the vast majority of teams were, nobody would have failed to play at least a decent proportion of their home or away games.

We had 9 home games and 4 away games left to play.

[Brig O'Lea]

14 minutes ago, glensmad said:

3 hours ago, Hillonearth said:

It's maybe not an ideal solution but it's a bit of a moot point unless the season had been curtailed much earlier than it was. Two-thirds of the way through the season as the vast majority of teams were, nobody would have failed to play at least a decent proportion of their home or away games.

We had 9 home games and 4 away games left to play.

We had 8 homes and 4 aways still to play. 

[nicotina]

if u have been mis-sold ppg  phone this hotline  abcd 1234

ask for tom

[andy25]

The bottom tier as they are to put it mildly they aren't very good.

Yeah I see what you mean but I think the fact they're currently tier 6 and not moving into it will see them be first seed. It wont make much difference either way. Out of curiosity what position in the west region do you think Bonnyton would be in if they were playing their currently? West Region Championship/League One sorta area?

[Hillonearth]

31 minutes ago, glensmad said:

3 hours ago, Hillonearth said:

It's maybe not an ideal solution but it's a bit of a moot point unless the season had been curtailed much earlier than it was. Two-thirds of the way through the season as the vast majority of teams were, nobody would have failed to play at least a decent proportion of their home or away games.

We had 9 home games and 4 away games left to play.

 

16 minutes ago, Brig O'Lea said:

We had 8 homes and 4 aways still to play. 

Those ones are definitely disproportionate - what was the cause - Junior Cup postponements? - but the original point was what if a team had played NO games at home and thus would be on a home PPG of 0.00.

Both Glens and Neilston have played enough home games to yield a valid PPG figure...granted both would have no doubt wanted more played in order to perhaps up that figure, but that's probably the case for most teams.

[Pyramidic]

6 minutes ago, andy25 said:

The bottom tier as they are to put it mildly they aren't very good.

Glasgow University would appear to be a similar standard using the same criteria:

http://www.fchd.info/GLASUNI.HTM

 

 

[cmontheloknow]

Saltcoats statement:

Saltcoats Victoria FC - an update, Fri 10th April 2020

Hi folks please find the following update, for your information.
Due to the current Covid 19 Pandemic it has been decided that this season of the West Region SJFA is now finished as of today. So, nae mair fitba’ for us this season! However, we look forward with anticipation to the new season (whenever it starts!) .
Further to what you may have read via the press or social media, all 63 Clubs in West Region SJFA - including Saltcoats Victoria FC - have applied to join the new West of Scotland League in the Lower League set up. At this point, many of the details as to how this works out remain to be determined.
Saltcoats Victoria also intend to retain, for the time being, our membership of West Region SJFA, for administration purposes and also to be eligible to play in the Scottish Junior Cup.
Yours in Sport,
Don Currie,
Club Chaplain / Secretary,
Saltcoats Victoria FC.

https://www.facebook.com/Saltcoatsvictoria/?__tn__=kC-R&eid=ARAfTCo3kglMO7-sXPDdCd03h9v5F_m2F4GfVGtSXe6IJPAAOC0K7CKpny9UQNTTiP7nXkofh2gc1EoZ&hc_ref=ARQ_48TrChFT0arQkkvZYmn0iygmbw9ZLlAMDjK5OJrQJnLdKzeJAzoOSbdUc65mhDU&fref=nf&__xts__[0]=68.ARBXqjAqeh3TRdoUOC9r7JwAqX9IAP5S9RXg3lUUij3xItbr7C-4RMzkU7s8dFyjtvsdLHb1tXoKduXa5HBKLFr0BfY4731wByEJ8Gogm14BXA1tQG8y7kcfkYch1EZa4OhHH0SeTOpFQTc3zm0rnA2scBocIv0LG33ush8oOGbONH9S8D5fEZq4YlKV9ppvHjkNOt9jKC7QQx5GjFUux46J-oO2nSV8mGZGX5yUY5aCutHF3Iqy1MZZDgRVKgoNFMeaUm-Z6tHNkMOLrNLQjvdbOWXuKXytwUhCQ3EgC_4d39e7t_p2R2DnZ7oMU-H3VUZK_45q0ppOXCsVZroDvT5YDQUJfkFfuZF6OCv6yDgPl4YP0rXOPw

[archieb]

https://www.carlukegazette.co.uk/sport/football/international/carluke-rovers-lanark-united-lesmahagow-juniors-and-forth-apply-join-senior-football-pyramid-2535943

[Wile E Coyote]

3 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:

EOS went sequential. So class them 1st overall seed  = A. Class them 64th they're = D.

Snake/Serpentine would go back on itself so that 1st and 64th are Conference A.

 

Can't believe the EOS went sequential and nobody challenged it, that is absolutely idiotic. It means the best team in each group ends up in conference A and the worst team ends up in Conference D so overall A is much stronger than D.

As an example it is better to be seeded 8th rather than 5th as 5th ends up with the number 1 seed and 8th ends up with the number 4 seed.

Lets hope the west see sense

[AsimButtHitsASix]

2 hours ago, andy25 said:

The bottom tier as they are to put it mildly they aren't very good.

All clubs, including Auchinleck, are going into the bottom tier

Keep up

[glensmad]

Saltcoats statement:

Saltcoats Victoria FC - an update, Fri 10th April 2020
Hi folks please find the following update, for your information.
Due to the current Covid 19 Pandemic it has been decided that this season of the West Region SJFA is now finished as of today. So, nae mair fitba’ for us this season! [emoji45] However, we look forward with anticipation to the new season (whenever it starts!) [emoji3526].
Further to what you may have read via the press or social media, all 63 Clubs in West Region SJFA - including Saltcoats Victoria FC - have applied to join the new West of Scotland League in the Lower League set up. At this point, many of the details as to how this works out remain to be determined.
Saltcoats Victoria also intend to retain, for the time being, our membership of West Region SJFA, for administration purposes and also to be eligible to play in the Scottish Junior Cup.
Yours in Sport,
Don Currie,
Club Chaplain / Secretary,
Saltcoats Victoria FC.
https://www.facebook.com/Saltcoatsvictoria/?__tn__=kC-R&eid=ARAfTCo3kglMO7-sXPDdCd03h9v5F_m2F4GfVGtSXe6IJPAAOC0K7CKpny9UQNTTiP7nXkofh2gc1EoZ&hc_ref=ARQ_48TrChFT0arQkkvZYmn0iygmbw9ZLlAMDjK5OJrQJnLdKzeJAzoOSbdUc65mhDU&fref=nf&__xts__[0]=68.ARBXqjAqeh3TRdoUOC9r7JwAqX9IAP5S9RXg3lUUij3xItbr7C-4RMzkU7s8dFyjtvsdLHb1tXoKduXa5HBKLFr0BfY4731wByEJ8Gogm14BXA1tQG8y7kcfkYch1EZa4OhHH0SeTOpFQTc3zm0rnA2scBocIv0LG33ush8oOGbONH9S8D5fEZq4YlKV9ppvHjkNOt9jKC7QQx5GjFUux46J-oO2nSV8mGZGX5yUY5aCutHF3Iqy1MZZDgRVKgoNFMeaUm-Z6tHNkMOLrNLQjvdbOWXuKXytwUhCQ3EgC_4d39e7t_p2R2DnZ7oMU-H3VUZK_45q0ppOXCsVZroDvT5YDQUJfkFfuZF6OCv6yDgPl4YP0rXOPw

They won't be retaining membership of the West Region SJFA, as there won't be such an organisation.

[Bestsinceslicebread]

31 minutes ago, archieb said:

https://www.carlukegazette.co.uk/sport/football/international/carluke-rovers-lanark-united-lesmahagow-juniors-and-forth-apply-join-senior-football-pyramid-2535943

 

Archie I just opened this up and read the first thing that caught my eyes

 

"Rovers committee man Stevie Kane said: “I think organisers are giving clubs next season to meet stadium criteria to join the new league like having floodlights, which we do. Probably 90 per cent of the clubs don’t meet the criteria, so I think they’re giving them next season to meet it for the following season.”"

I just think to myself WTF

There are obviously people who know a lot about the pyramid and its workings and idealism behind it and there are people who do not.  If anyone is going to be interviewed why cant these guys do the research to make sure they are saying the correct crap and not leaving their self wide open.

 

 

Edited April 10, 2020 by Bestsinceslicebread

[glensmad]

https://www.carlukegazette.co.uk/sport/football/international/carluke-rovers-lanark-united-lesmahagow-juniors-and-forth-apply-join-senior-football-pyramid-2535943

"Probably 90 per cent of the clubs don’t meet the criteria"

I think you'll find that 95% of the clubs actually do already meet the criteria.

[cmontheloknow]

Lots of evidence that some people involved with running football clubs should not be involved in running football clubs. Or is it still sand in eyes from all the ostriching?

[andy25]

You asked what tier they would be in if they were currently playing junior [emoji849]

All clubs, including Auchinleck, are going into the bottom tier
Keep up