GordonS Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 40 minutes ago, Stag Nation said: "Dream to join Albion Rovers" - Have these people no ambition? Indeed, the way things are going it won't be long before they're in the West Premier together... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, AML67 said: As has been stated many times during this topic you yet again assume that because the Juniors have finally and belatedly ( in some cases possibly reluctantly ) jumped on the bandwagon and have decided to join the Pyramid set up you somehow feel they can simply supersede and jump the queue in front of admittedly smaller Clubs who struggled for years to gain and keep meeting the License criteria against the odds in many cases ! These licensed teams in the South don’t have the financial muscle of your aforementioned Clubs and many , many others in the East and the new West but that doesn’t give anyone the right to overlook the incredible efforts from the respective teams trying to survive on average crowds and limited sponsorship in comparison and I for one as someone involved with such a Club feel they thoroughly deserve their opportunity to remain at Tier 6. What’s your real issue anyway because as you’re aware the chances of the SOSFL winners overcoming either the East or West in a play off are minimal at best if not borderline impossible but presumably you’d rather have multiple teams from the Central belt regions being given the opportunity to succeed at the expense of those that’s entire history lies in Senior football ? Merge the South and West structures and let teams find their level within that. If they want to have a regional South league which covers a far smaller percentage of the population then that's fine. It shouldn't be at tier 6 though. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Pyramidic said: Optimism at Gartcairn: Gartcairn boss West of Scotland League dream to join Airdrie and Albion Rovers in the SPFL https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/gartcairn-boss-west-scotland-league-21792523 Always surprised me Gartcairn went to the juniors and not the LL when they moved "up" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer1969 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, archieb said: So, Armadale and Bathgate voted Yes to the pyramid while Broxburn voted No. Not sure what that proves? Either (a) folk can change their minds and/or (b) different committee members now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 I created this and posted it on the Coronavirus and the Scottish Championship thread but some here might want a look at it. Presuming the season is abandoned I decided to do 16 conferences of 17 in the Scottish league so we can start afresh like the East of Scotland did. Here’s how it turned out if we took it by current league position Celtic Stranraer Cove Rangers Gala Fairydean Huntly Dunbar United Wigtown & Bladnoch Invergordon Kilwinning Rangers Tayport Bathgate Thistle Burghead Thistle Cumbernauld United Forfar Albion Linlithgow Rose Community Muirkirk Juniors Maybole Juniors Rangers Forfar Athletic Edinburgh City Deveronvale Berwick Rangers Upper Annandale Crossgates Primrose Craigroyston Carnoustie Panmure Beith Juniors Montrose Roselea Aberdeen University JFC Blairgowrie Juniors Whitletts Victoria Buchanhaven Hearts Yoker Athletic Johnstone Burgh Motherwell Peterhead Elgin City University of Stirling Strathspey Thistle Linlithgow Rose Lochmaben Arniston Rangers Livingston United Inverness Bunillidh Forres Thistle Newburgh Glentanar J.F.C. Whitehills J.F.C. Vale of Leven Ashfield Aberdeen Clyde Cowdenbeath Wick Academy Gretna 2008 Lochar Thistle Sauchie Juniors Peebles Rovers Banks O'Dee Bridge of Don Thistle Kilbirnie Ladeside Sunnybank Stonehaven Buckie Rovers Kilsyth Rangers Royal Albert Thorniewood United Livingston Dumbarton Queen's Park Cumbernauld Colts Turriff United Jeanfield Swifts Creetown Easthouses Lily MW Thurso Fauldhouse United Kirriemuir Thistle Rosyth Newmachar United JFC Syngenta Bo'ness United Junior East Kilbride Thistle Forth Wanderers Hibernian East Fife Stirling Albion Keith Edinburgh University St Cuthbert Wanderers Blackburn United Ormiston Pollok Luncarty Harthill Royal Dundee East Craigie Blantyre Victoria Coupar Angus Dalry Thistle Wishaw Juniors Annbank United St Johnstone Montrose Annan Athletic Caledonian Braves Clachnacuddin Musselburgh Athletic Whitehill Welfare Hawick Royal Albert United Broughty Athletic Glenafton Athletic Deveronside Darvel Juniors Dundee Violet Neilston Juniors West Calder United Kello Rovers Vale of Clyde Kilmarnock Airdrieonians Stenhousemuir Nairn County Dalbeattie Star Heston Rovers Newtongrange Star Burntisland Shipyard Pumpherston Halkirk Utd Bonar Bridge Kirkintilloch Rob Roy Stoneyburn Cruden Bay Gartcairn Maryhill St. Anthony's St Mirren Falkirk Albion Rovers East Kilbride Lossiemouth Penicuik Athletic Lothian Thistle Hutchison Vale Tweedmouth Rangers Culter Dyce Scone Thistle Rutherglen Glencairn Fraserburgh United Dufftown J.F.C. Petershill Girvan Saltcoats Victoria Ross County Raith Rovers Brechin City Forres Mechanics Vale of Leithen Nithsdale Wanderers Tynecastle Oakley United Golspie Armadale Thistle Kennoway Star Hearts Maud Islavale Sauchie Juniors Community St. Roch's Bellshill Athletic Newmains United Hamilton Academical Partick Thistle Brora Rangers Civil Service Strollers Fort William Dundonald Bluebell Leith Athletic Coldstream Auchinleck Talbot Dundee North End Aberdeen East End Benburb Renfrew Lochee Harp Cambuslang Rangers Larkhall Thistle Lugar Boswell Thistle Heart of Midlothian Queen of the South Kelty Hearts Formartine United Bo'ness United Newton Stewart Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts St Andrews United Lochee United Clydebank Rossvale Ellon United Arbroath Victoria Arthurlie Craigmark Burntonians Glasgow Perthshire Ardeer Thistle Dundee United Alloa Athletic Inverurie Loco Works The Spartans Threave Rovers Camelon Juniors Dunipace Dalkeith Thistle Whitburn Juniors Orkney Forfar West End Troon Kirkcaldy & Dysart Spey Valley United Irvine Victoria Carluke Rovers Glasgow Uni Inverness Caledonian Thistle Greenock Morton Bonnyrigg Rose Buckie Thistle Broxburn Athletic Mid Annandale Glenrothes Kinnoull FC Hermes Nairn St. Ninian Lochore Welfare Hall Russell United Longside Stoneywood-Parkvale Ardrossan Winton Rovers Greenock Juniors Drumchapel PYM Dundee Arbroath Fraserburgh BSC Glasgow Abbey Vale Tranent Juniors Heriot Watt University Preston Athletic St. Duthus Thornton Hibs Colony Park JFC Hurlford United New Elgin Lochgelly Albert Lanark United Lesmahagow Juniors Oban Saints Ayr United Dunfermline East Stirlingshire Rothes Hill of Beath Hawthorn Bonnyton Thistle Edinburgh United Haddington Athletic Irvine Meadow XI Dundee Downfield Largs Thistle Banchory St. Ternan Shotts Bon Accord Brechin Victoria Shettleston Port Glasgow Juniors Strathclyde Uni I presumed Glasgow Uni are applying to the WoS and added in Oban and Strath Uni to make it an even amount but you get the jist 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Pyramidic said: The current list of 48 clubs that propose to join the WoSFL: 1. Clydebank (SJFA West Region Premiership) 2. Kilwinning Rangers (SJFA West Region Premiership) 3. Rutherglen Glencairn (SJFA West Region Premiership) 4. Bellshill Athletic (SJFA West League One) 5. Drumchapel United (Central Scottish Amateur Premier Division) 6. Neilston Juniors (SJFA West Region Championship) 7. Maryhill (SJFA West League One) 8. Kello Rovers (SJFA West League One) 9. Blantyre Victoria (SJFA West Region Championship) 10. Kirkintilloch Rob Roy (SJFA West Region Premiership) 11. Vale of Clyde (SJFA West League Two) 12. Renfrew (SJFA West Region Championship) 13. Royal Albert (SJFA West League One) 14. Arthurlie (SJFA West Region Championship) 15. Newmains United (SJFA West League Two) 16. Kilsyth Rangers (SJFA West Region Championship) 17. Whitletts Victoria (SJFA West Region Championship) 18. Gartcairn Juniors (SJFA West Region Championship) 19. Cambuslang Rangers (SJFA West Region Championship) 20. Cumbernauld United (SJFA West Region Championship) 21. Glasgow Perthshire (SJFA West League One) 22. Ashfield (SJFA West League Two) 23. Petershill (SJFA West Region Championship) 24. Greenock Juniors (SJFA West League One) 25. Larkhall Thistle (SJFA West League One) 26. Port Glasgow Juniors (SJFA West League One) 27. Pollok (SJFA West Region Premiership) 28. Darvel Juniors (SJFA West Region Championship) 29. Vale of Leven (SJFA West League Two) 30. Glenafton Athletic (SJFA West Region Premiership) 31. Johnstone Burgh (SJFA West League Two) 32. Auchinleck Talbot (SJFA West Region Premiership) 33. Largs Thistle (SJFA West Region Premiership) 34. Kilbirnie Ladeside (SJFA West Region Premiership) 35. Troon (SJFA West Region Premiership) 36. Irvine Meadow XI (SJFA West Region Premiership) 37. Beith Juniors (SJFA West Region Premiership) 38. Shotts Bon Accord (SJFA West Region Championship) 39. Forth Wanderers (SJFA West League Two) 40. Muirkirk Juniors (SJFA West League Two) 41. Benburb (SJFA West Region Premiership) 42. Shettleston (SJFA West League One) 43. Irvine Victoria (SJFA West Region Championship) 44. Dalry Thistle (SJFA West Region Championship) 45. Cumnock Juniors (SJFA West Region Premiership) 46. Girvan (SJFA West League One) 47. Wishaw Juniors (SJFA West League One) 48. Rossvale (SJFA West Region Premiership) SJFA West Region Premiership (15 clubs) Auchinleck Talbot; Beith Juniors; Benburb; Clydebank; Cumnock Juniors; Glenafton Athletic; Hurlford United; Irvine Meadow; Kilbirnie Ladeside; Kilwinning Rangers; Kirkintilloch Rob Roy; Largs Thistle; Pollok; Rossvale; Rutherglen Glencairn; Troon SJFA West Region Championship (14 clubs) Arthurlie; Blantyre Victoria; Cambuslang Rangers; Craigmark Burntonians; Cumbernauld United; Dalry Thistle; Darvel Juniors; Gartcairn Juniors; Irvine Victoria; Kilsyth Rangers; Neilston Juniors; Petershill; Renfrew; Shotts Bon Accord; St Roch's; Whitletts Victoria SJFA West Region League One (11 clubs) Ardrossan Winton Rovers; Bellshill Athletic; Carluke Rovers; East Kilbride Thistle; Girvan; Glasgow Perthshire; Greenock Juniors; Kello Rovers; Lanark United; Larkhall Thistle; Lesmahagow; Maryhill; Port Glasgow; Royal Albert; Shettleston; Wishaw Juniors SJFA West Region League Two (7 clubs) Annbank United; Ardeer Thistle; Ashfield; Forth Wanderers; Johnstone Burgh; Lugar Boswell Thistle; Maybole Juniors; Muirkirk Juniors; Newmains United; Saltcoats Victoria; St Anthony's; Thorniewood United; Vale of Clyde; Vale of Leven; Yoker Athletic South of Scotland League (0 clubs) Abbey Vale; Bonnyton Thistle; Caledonian Braves Res; Creetown; Heston Rovers; Lochar Thistle; Lochmaben; Mid-Annandale; Newton Stewart; Nithsdale Wanderers; St Cuthbert Wanderers; Stranraer Res; Threave Rovers; Upper Annandale; Wigtown & Bladnoch Amateurs (1 club) Drumchapel United PYM; Glasgow University; Oban Saints; Strathclyde University More applicants to follow to be added to the growing list! You are wrong Lugar Boswell thistle put their application in at the meeting at East kilbride. When the question was asked at the end of the meeting (Have any club applied) The answer was one. That one was Lugar who were the first team to apply 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag Nation Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: I created this and posted it on the Coronavirus and the Scottish Championship thread but some here might want a look at it. Presuming the season is abandoned I decided to do 16 conferences of 17 in the Scottish league so we can start afresh like the East of Scotland did. Here’s how it turned out if we took it by current league position Reveal hidden contents Celtic Stranraer Cove Rangers Gala Fairydean Huntly Dunbar United Wigtown & Bladnoch Invergordon Kilwinning Rangers Tayport Bathgate Thistle Burghead Thistle Cumbernauld United Forfar Albion Linlithgow Rose Community Muirkirk Juniors Maybole Juniors Rangers Forfar Athletic Edinburgh City Deveronvale Berwick Rangers Upper Annandale Crossgates Primrose Craigroyston Carnoustie Panmure Beith Juniors Montrose Roselea Aberdeen University JFC Blairgowrie Juniors Whitletts Victoria Buchanhaven Hearts Yoker Athletic Johnstone Burgh Motherwell Peterhead Elgin City University of Stirling Strathspey Thistle Linlithgow Rose Lochmaben Arniston Rangers Livingston United Inverness Bunillidh Forres Thistle Newburgh Glentanar J.F.C. Whitehills J.F.C. Vale of Leven Ashfield Aberdeen Clyde Cowdenbeath Wick Academy Gretna 2008 Lochar Thistle Sauchie Juniors Peebles Rovers Banks O'Dee Bridge of Don Thistle Kilbirnie Ladeside Sunnybank Stonehaven Buckie Rovers Kilsyth Rangers Royal Albert Thorniewood United Livingston Dumbarton Queen's Park Cumbernauld Colts Turriff United Jeanfield Swifts Creetown Easthouses Lily MW Thurso Fauldhouse United Kirriemuir Thistle Rosyth Newmachar United JFC Syngenta Bo'ness United Junior East Kilbride Thistle Forth Wanderers Hibernian East Fife Stirling Albion Keith Edinburgh University St Cuthbert Wanderers Blackburn United Ormiston Pollok Luncarty Harthill Royal Dundee East Craigie Blantyre Victoria Coupar Angus Dalry Thistle Wishaw Juniors Annbank United St Johnstone Montrose Annan Athletic Caledonian Braves Clachnacuddin Musselburgh Athletic Whitehill Welfare Hawick Royal Albert United Broughty Athletic Glenafton Athletic Deveronside Darvel Juniors Dundee Violet Neilston Juniors West Calder United Kello Rovers Vale of Clyde Kilmarnock Airdrieonians Stenhousemuir Nairn County Dalbeattie Star Heston Rovers Newtongrange Star Burntisland Shipyard Pumpherston Halkirk Utd Bonar Bridge Kirkintilloch Rob Roy Stoneyburn Cruden Bay Gartcairn Maryhill St. Anthony's St Mirren Falkirk Albion Rovers East Kilbride Lossiemouth Penicuik Athletic Lothian Thistle Hutchison Vale Tweedmouth Rangers Culter Dyce Scone Thistle Rutherglen Glencairn Fraserburgh United Dufftown J.F.C. Petershill Girvan Saltcoats Victoria Ross County Raith Rovers Brechin City Forres Mechanics Vale of Leithen Nithsdale Wanderers Tynecastle Oakley United Golspie Armadale Thistle Kennoway Star Hearts Maud Islavale Sauchie Juniors Community St. Roch's Bellshill Athletic Newmains United Hamilton Academical Partick Thistle Brora Rangers Civil Service Strollers Fort William Dundonald Bluebell Leith Athletic Coldstream Auchinleck Talbot Dundee North End Aberdeen East End Benburb Renfrew Lochee Harp Cambuslang Rangers Larkhall Thistle Lugar Boswell Thistle Heart of Midlothian Queen of the South Kelty Hearts Formartine United Bo'ness United Newton Stewart Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts St Andrews United Lochee United Clydebank Rossvale Ellon United Arbroath Victoria Arthurlie Craigmark Burntonians Glasgow Perthshire Ardeer Thistle Dundee United Alloa Athletic Inverurie Loco Works The Spartans Threave Rovers Camelon Juniors Dunipace Dalkeith Thistle Whitburn Juniors Orkney Forfar West End Troon Kirkcaldy & Dysart Spey Valley United Irvine Victoria Carluke Rovers Glasgow Uni Inverness Caledonian Thistle Greenock Morton Bonnyrigg Rose Buckie Thistle Broxburn Athletic Mid Annandale Glenrothes Kinnoull FC Hermes Nairn St. Ninian Lochore Welfare Hall Russell United Longside Stoneywood-Parkvale Ardrossan Winton Rovers Greenock Juniors Drumchapel PYM Dundee Arbroath Fraserburgh BSC Glasgow Abbey Vale Tranent Juniors Heriot Watt University Preston Athletic St. Duthus Thornton Hibs Colony Park JFC Hurlford United New Elgin Lochgelly Albert Lanark United Lesmahagow Juniors Oban Saints Ayr United Dunfermline East Stirlingshire Rothes Hill of Beath Hawthorn Bonnyton Thistle Edinburgh United Haddington Athletic Irvine Meadow XI Dundee Downfield Largs Thistle Banchory St. Ternan Shotts Bon Accord Brechin Victoria Shettleston Port Glasgow Juniors Strathclyde Uni I presumed Glasgow Uni are applying to the WoS and added in Oban and Strath Uni to make it an even amount but you get the jist What were you smoking at the time? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 52 minutes ago, AML67 said: As has been stated many times during this topic you yet again assume that because the Juniors have finally and belatedly ( in some cases possibly reluctantly ) jumped on the bandwagon and have decided to join the Pyramid set up you somehow feel they can simply supersede and jump the queue in front of admittedly smaller Clubs who struggled for years to gain and keep meeting the License criteria against the odds in many cases ! These licensed teams in the South don’t have the financial muscle of your aforementioned Clubs and many , many others in the East and the new West but that doesn’t give anyone the right to overlook the incredible efforts from the respective teams trying to survive on average crowds and limited sponsorship in comparison and I for one as someone involved with such a Club feel they thoroughly deserve their opportunity to remain at Tier 6. What’s your real issue anyway because as you’re aware the chances of the SOSFL winners overcoming either the East or West in a play off are minimal at best if not borderline impossible but presumably you’d rather have multiple teams from the Central belt regions being given the opportunity to succeed at the expense of those that’s entire history lies in Senior football ? In that case they can apply for the WOS and try to remain at tier 6 with their performances on the park, and not just their historic status. Though if as you say there's basically no chance of them ever winning the LL play-off then does it matter if they are removed from tier 6? 3 minutes ago, sweep said: You are wrong Lugar Boswell thistle put their application in at the meeting at East kilbride. When the question was asked at the end of the meeting (Have any club applied) The answer was one. That one was Lugar who were the first team to apply Well if they don't tell anyone then how do we know they've applied? We're not psychic. Maybe @Kennie can confirm? -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Stag Nation said: What were you smoking at the time? The sweet aromatic herb known as "skiving at work" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sctv Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 The candidates will come from within the clubs who form the new wosfl.probably for the second season of the new league setup.they will make their own choices and decisions.all clubs get to propose new idea's. rule changes if they get a secondary to back them thats what being a league is about,its the clubs who determine how their run.In fairness that’s been the same every year in any association 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ginaro said: In that case they can apply for the WOS and try to remain at tier 6 with their performances on the park, and not just their historic status. Though if as you say there's basically no chance of them ever winning the LL play-off then does it matter if they are removed from tier 6? I'd like to have seen the entire SOSFL apply for the confrence season of the WOSFL and the LL pyramid would be sorted within 1 season. Keeping the SOSFL at tier 6 makes no sense if their teams aren't strong enough to compete with the East and West champions, the SOSFL and WOSFL should be one league with the East v West playoff to go up, hopefully in the future it'll be both promoted. They can't have the argument the SOSFL has existed for X number of years so should just remain at tier 6 permanently when the WRJFA and ERJFA have ripped their leagues up to get the WOS and EOS sorted. Any ambitious SOSFL team should be joining the WOSFL as playing in a better league will help to improve them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer1969 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Robert James said: FUTURE OF THE JUNIORS WEST As the deadline for applications is less than 6 days away, it is evident that the formation of the West of Scotland (pyramid) League has been a success, with at least 49 applications to date. The remaining question will be which Junior clubs (if any) don't submit an application to the LL's new 'feeder' league ? EAST I have not yet seen confirmation from the EoSL, about the final number of new clubs who actually applied to join for 2020/21. Was it 8 junior clubs in total, or were there any surprising 'late' applications from West Lothian, or north of the Tay clubs (testing the SLL/HFL boundary, as Luncarty have done) ? Did any amateur clubs also apply ? Has Eyemouth reactivated its dormant EoSL membership ? The future of ERJFA Juniors remains very unclear. NORTH Some discussions were held with the North juniors, about the possibility of them joining a Highland pyramid, alongside the North Caledonian League. Someone on here referred to TJ and the SFA being involved (?). However, in the absence of any further/recent information, it now appears that nothing is happening about the North Juniors joining the pyramid. Or have I missed something ? In the meantime, according to the Inverness Courier, four new clubs have applied to join the NCL for 2020/21. They are : Loch Ness (Inverness & District League), new club Scourie (from north west Sutherland), HFL club's Nairn County Development XI, and the return of Alness United (subject to a new ground lease being agreed). North Caley officials have met with SFA and and HFL reps, andthey have been transparent about their clubs interest in joining the pyramid. Will the North Juniors be left behind ? **** THERE IS STILL WORK TO BE DONE IF THE SCOTTISH PYRAMID IS TO BECOME TRULY NATIONAL. Pretty comprehensive, but dont forget Tayside ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morley Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, AML67 said: As has been stated many times during this topic you yet again assume that because the Juniors have finally and belatedly ( in some cases possibly reluctantly ) jumped on the bandwagon and have decided to join the Pyramid set up you somehow feel they can simply supersede and jump the queue in front of admittedly smaller Clubs who struggled for years to gain and keep meeting the License criteria against the odds in many cases ! These licensed teams in the South don’t have the financial muscle of your aforementioned Clubs and many , many others in the East and the new West but that doesn’t give anyone the right to overlook the incredible efforts from the respective teams trying to survive on average crowds and limited sponsorship in comparison and I for one as someone involved with such a Club feel they thoroughly deserve their opportunity to remain at Tier 6. What’s your real issue anyway because as you’re aware the chances of the SOSFL winners overcoming either the East or West in a play off are minimal at best if not borderline impossible but presumably you’d rather have multiple teams from the Central belt regions being given the opportunity to succeed at the expense of those that’s entire history lies in Senior football ? Totally agree there still seems to be a misunderstanding among some the SoS are somehow unjustly keeping a promotion place to the LL from the larger EoS and now WoS teams. The champion of SoS has to be licenced and there are only a few clubs with that, and never likely to be many more due to the financial scale of most SoS clubs. Plus promotion to the LL for an SoS club can only ever be gained through winning a playoff with the EoS and or WoS champion, with little chance an SoS team will ever win that playoff. Even if the LL do open up to say 2 relegation/promotion spots with 1 automatic promotion spot into the LL, the SoS route would very likely still be via a playoff with the runner up of the EoS/WoS champions, and then probably the second bottom LL team. So I can't see why some people still seem to have an issue with the SoS being at tier 6. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, San Starko Rover said: I'd like to have seen the entire SOSFL apply for the confrence season of the WOSFL and the LL pyramid would be sorted within 1 season. Keeping the SOSFL at tier 6 makes no sense if their teams aren't strong enough to compete with the East and West champions, the SOSFL and WOSFL should be one league with the East v West playoff to go up, hopefully in the future it'll be both promoted. They can't have the argument the SOSFL has existed for X number of years so should just remain at tier 6 permanently when the WRJFA and ERJFA have ripped their leagues up to get the WOS and EOS sorted. Any ambitious SOSFL team should be joining the WOSFL as playing in a better league will help to improve them. This would be a terrible idea. Many of the clubs in the SOSFL have no interest in playing outside of their local area due to the costs and travel involved, so asking them to join a conference set-up where most of their opponents will be outside of that area would be a bit silly. It would be better for the teams who have aspirations of West/Lowland level football to apply and for the rest to bolt on as a regional league at a lower tier. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 41 minutes ago, Ginaro said: In that case they can apply for the WOS and try to remain at tier 6 with their performances on the park, and not just their historic status. Though if as you say there's basically no chance of them ever winning the LL play-off then does it matter if they are removed from tier 6? Well if they don't tell anyone then how do we know they've applied? We're not psychic. Maybe @Kennie can confirm? I would suggest that @sweep is the man to believe here. As for Kennie, he hasn't been involved with Lugar for quite a while. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 minute ago, craigkillie said: This would be a terrible idea. Many of the clubs in the SOSFL have no interest in playing outside of their local area due to the costs and travel involved, so asking them to join a conference set-up where most of their opponents will be outside of that area would be a bit silly. It would be better for the teams who have aspirations of West/Lowland level football to apply and for the rest to bolt on as a regional league at a lower tier. So they have no desire to play outside their own area and no realistic ability to win in a playoff with the other two how can they remain justified as a tier 6 league just because they currently are. I agree they should be a feeder to the WOSFL but many think they should just remain tier 6. for what purpose, so their champions take a hammering every season in a pointless playoff game they'll almost certainly lose. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Kilwinning and Clydebank are two, maybe 1 or 2 othersHopefully. I wonder how the sjc will fit in given the league and ssc take primacy. Someone suggested changing fixtures around. I wouldnt be happy having my club subject to junior fixture arrangements just to appease clubs who can’t move on. The best way to start the wosl would be to make it optional, that way clubs could have seen that it wasnt the big bad wolf etc and joined in their own time. Who’s ever said clubs who join should be cast adrift? Madness. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkcircus Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 hours ago, patriot1 said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/spfl-pyramid-masterplan-agreed-juniors-21753119 Read all the way to the bottom. Maybe someone who tuned into to Kilwinnings Q & A session this week could let us know what came out of it. Or just ask me What do you want know? Our position at the moment is the same, however if the SJFA are to undergo modernisation and wholesale transformation then we will look at what benefits being a member brings to Kilwinning Rangers and possibly revisit our position. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, San Starko Rover said: So they have no desire to play outside their own area and no realistic ability to win in a playoff with the other two how can they remain justified as a tier 6 league just because they currently are. I agree they should be a feeder to the WOSFL but many think they should just remain tier 6. for what purpose, so their champions take a hammering every season in a pointless playoff game they'll almost certainly lose. I haven't suggested they should remain a Tier 6 league - I don't think they should. There are loads of other alternatives beyond forcing the smaller, basically local amateur, clubs into a set-up where they're going to be heading up to Glasgow to get pumped 7-0 every other week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morley Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, San Starko Rover said: So they have no desire to play outside their own area and no realistic ability to win in a playoff with the other two how can they remain justified as a tier 6 league just because they currently are. I agree they should be a feeder to the WOSFL but many think they should just remain tier 6. for what purpose, so their champions take a hammering every season in a pointless playoff game they'll almost certainly lose. Remember an issue is that there are a couple of clubs in the LL currently who would drop into the SoS if relegated. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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