Lowland team Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 55 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said: That is what I said. Sorry replied to the wrong post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer1969 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 3 hours ago, jimbaxters said: Statement or question? You know what I meant. The SOS league was always Dumfries and Stranraer teams. It wasn't. Until the recent demise of the Dumfries Amateur League, the SoS was almost exclusively Galloway teams, Dumfries(shire) teams are (mostly) a fairly recent addition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Pub League Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 3 hours ago, superbigal said: Basically the west region has gone rogue as it has no authority for much of the agreement. Btw this is only my observation I am 100% happy the deadlock is broken. Interesting times though, particularly in tayside. The north and the dregs of the East should refuse to allow Senior clubs to play in their premier cup competition. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer1969 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said: So if I'm understanding right, you have to apply to the WoS league to join the pyramid. If you don't apply you're still going to be playing in a pyramid league, against other teams who want to be part of the pyramid and could potentially finish ahead of one of these teams in the league? Does that mean that only the bottom tier will be for those clubs who don't apply, or will there be movement between the leagues below Lowland League level (surely if there is then that makes these teams de facto part of the pyramid?). As to the Junior Cup, I take it this staying Junior thing is for current clubs only but what about current East Clubs who have applied to the East of Scotland League? If you don't apply, you won't be in a pyramid league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amigan Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Would there be anything to stop say Spartans from joining the sjfa and entering the Scottish Junior cup of they so wished? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Doonhamer1969 said: Forgive me if I'm getting the wrong end of the stick here, but I'm not seeing anything there that suggests that any non -junior team applying to the WoSL , eg Drumchapel, will be obliged /expected/ want to play in the Junior Cup. Indeed, Drumchapel will be able to apply for SJFA membership and play in the Junior Cup, but they don't have to, it's entirely their choice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) If I'm correct in thinking. There are 63 teams who are currently part of the west region league this season 19/20. If say 20 of them apply to the WOS, they will enter the new WOS league in a conference divisions, 20/21, all equal to determine which divisions they will be in the following year 21/22. These conference divisions will also include other teams joining who were not part of the West region league this year. All the junior teams this year who join the WOS can also keep their junior membershio and participate in the Scottish Junior Cup. If 20 junior teams this year leave to join the WOS I take it the other 43 teams left in the junior league will play in a new structured West region junior league. meaning the WRJFA will still exists with league running the teams which have decided not to join the pyramid. This WRJFA will have no connection to the pyramid as they will still exists on their own as they have done in the past. Have I understood that format correctly guys n gals Edited March 24, 2020 by Bestsinceslicebread 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theesel1994 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 I'm going to make a bold prediction here - all 63 West Region clubs WILL apply to the new West of Scotland League. The West Region will make sure of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, Marten said: Indeed, Drumchapel will be able to apply for SJFA membership and play in the Junior Cup, but they don't have to, it's entirely their choice. I dont think so it says that teams who were junior already could keep sjfa membership 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 If I'm correct in thinking. There are 63 teams who are currently part of the west region league this season 19/20. If say 20 of them apply to the WOS, they will enter the new WOS league in a conference divisions, 20/21, all equal to determine which divisions they will be in the following year 21/22. These conference divisions will also include other teams joining who were not part of the West region league this year. All the junior teams this year who join the WOS can also keep their junior membershio and participate in the Scottish Junior Cup. If 20 junior teams this year leave to join the WOS I take it the other 43 teams left in the junior league will play in a new structured West region junior league. meaning the WRJFA will still exists with league running the teams which have decided not to join the pyramid. This WRJFA will have no connection to the pyramid as they will still exists on their own as they have done in the past. Have I understood that format correctly guys n galsCorrect 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriot1 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, theesel1994 said: I'm going to make a bold prediction here - all 63 West Region clubs WILL apply to the new West of Scotland League. The West Region will make sure of that. If all 63 teams move across plus a few others then we will have at least 4 conferences. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer1969 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, Marten said: Indeed, Drumchapel will be able to apply for SJFA membership and play in the Junior Cup, but they don't have to, it's entirely their choice. So, in theory,any team could, eg (random former junior team) Dunbar , could (re) apply to the SJFA to play in the JC.....? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theesel1994 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, patriot1 said: If all 63 teams move across plus a few others then we will have at least 4 conferences. I'm going to make a second bold prediction - there will be 4 conferences. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rambler Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 I hear that... WRJFA is encouraging all West teams to apply. Meeting has already taken place on 20th with all regions to allow changes to Scottish Cup entry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmparkheroes Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 32 minutes ago, Bestsinceslicebread said: If I'm correct in thinking. There are 63 teams who are currently part of the west region league this season 19/20. If say 20 of them apply to the WOS, they will enter the new WOS league in a conference divisions, 20/21, all equal to determine which divisions they will be in the following year 21/22. These conference divisions will also include other teams joining who were not part of the West region league this year. All the junior teams this year who join the WOS can also keep their junior membershio and participate in the Scottish Junior Cup. If 20 junior teams this year leave to join the WOS I take it the other 43 teams left in the junior league will play in a new structured West region junior league. meaning the WRJFA will still exists with league running the teams which have decided not to join the pyramid. This WRJFA will have no connection to the pyramid as they will still exists on their own as they have done in the past. Have I understood that format correctly guys n gals I think that would be the case B. Don’t think there will be enough teams left to form a single WRSJFA division though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 I hear that... WRJFA is encouraging all West teams to apply. Meeting has already taken place on 20th with all regions to allow changes to Scottish Cup entry. Yes, it was agreed in principle at the SJFA Management meeting last week, however it is the clubs who ultimately will have the final say at the AGM or an EGM.Remember that there are 70 junior teams outwith the West Region and only 63 teams in the West Region, so if the non-West teams don't vote for the changes then the idea would be scuppered. I do expect the changes to be approved, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Surely the West Lothian teams will apply for the EOSFL and keep their SJC access. There is no other reason to stay outside the EOSFL if most (possibly all) the WRJFA become Senior teams with SJC access. Last chance for tier 7 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Macguire Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said: So if I'm understanding right, you have to apply to the WoS league to join the pyramid. If you don't apply you're still going to be playing in a pyramid league, against other teams who want to be part of the pyramid and could potentially finish ahead of one of these teams in the league? Does that mean that only the bottom tier will be for those clubs who don't apply, or will there be movement between the leagues below Lowland League level (surely if there is then that makes these teams de facto part of the pyramid?). As to the Junior Cup, I take it this staying Junior thing is for current clubs only but what about current East Clubs who have applied to the East of Scotland League? I find your lack of comprehension somewhat disturbing. Perhaps this isn’t the subject for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Pyramidic said: I think it is high time that Fauldhouse, Whitburn, Armadale, Bathgate, Pumpherston etc take in the full implications of this statement below that the West Region SJFA are circulating. Time to come home boys to the EoSFL and leave the self-isolation behind. Under the compromise you can still play in the Junior Cup. It is interesting that this says there'll be Conferences for only one season... with an expected four Conferences, that would mean end-season cut-offs between 4th. & 5th. places; 8th. & 9th. places and 12th. & 13th. places ~ in mid-table, where team-strengths and thus points won are much closer together, the differences between 4th. & 13th. places could be a matter of only three/four wins. It could well be cut-throat all season long in divisions like that! Mind, maybe with divisions largely constructed from sets of four teams from each of the four current WRJL divisions plus a few added sides from the SoSL & Amateurs, there might be some distinct strength differences at the cusps of each of the cut-off lines. If there are 72 teams entering (6 SoSL been previously mentioned + maybe 2 Amateurs), that'd make four Conferences of 18. Beneath the 12th. placed teams, that'd give the following season's fourth division a total of 24 teams ~ two 12-team regionals called for? Alternatively, under a 16-team Premier Division, that could leave four 14-team divisions - Div. 1N, 1S, 2N & 2S? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 4 hours ago, San Starko Rover said: Surely the West Lothian teams will apply for the EOSFL and keep their SJC access. There is no other reason to stay outside the EOSFL if most (possibly all) the WRJFA become Senior teams with SJC access.... Is it confirmed that newly entering EoS clubs could still play in the junior cup? That might just be for the west region. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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