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Junior football, what is the future?


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1 hour ago, Cameron Wilson said:

Part of the issue is that if the EOS accepts a club from north of the LL/HL divide, it gets messy as that club could potentially get promoted to League 2, then relegated, in which case they would have to be relegated to the HL, if my understanding of the current rules is correct. EoS said previously they had queries from North of the Tay clubs but had to turn them down due to the HL/LL line. The admission of Jeanfield and Kinnoul, both teams outwith EoS traditional area, but south of the line, suggests that the line is something the EoS have been adhering to all along. 

Will be interesting to see what happens with Luncarty. Personally I think some flexibility with teams near the line is probably desirable.

Luncarty are in an unusual position in that they have to travel through Perth to get to many of their away matches in the ERJFA. The same would apply if any other clubs applied to the EoS from the north-west of Perth.

There doesn't seem to be too much risk of Luncarty moving up to the Lowland League, let alone League 2, but rules could be made to allow them to play in EoS without letting them take promotion to Tier 5 at all. The rules could easily allow for the highest eligible club to take their place in any play-offs.

 

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On 18/03/2020 at 22:07, Jerry Macguire said:

He is.

It’s quite clear from that statement some clubs are buying the nonsense being spouted by Ronney. Clearly the tactic here is to spread misinformation in the hope the WoSFL is delayed. My advice to clubs is don’t wait for The WRJs to guide you to the promised land. If you are in any doubt reach out to the LL chairman for the facts.

Under the circumstances thought this was worth a bump.

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The scheduled meeting last night with Lowland, East of Scotland, South of Scotland and West Region Juniors took place via video conferencing due to current travel and person-to-person restrictions in place.

A great deal of common ground was established. The outline of what was agreed is as follows:

  • In order to ensure there is a firm record of registration and a database of information for the West of Scotland Football League,  the West Junior FA are in agreement that the Lowland League application form should be completed and sent to  George Fraser @geo_fraser@hotmail.co.uk
  • To give Clubs more time to make these applications under current circumstances, the deadline has been extended to Tuesday 7 April. That will be the last date applications will be accepted.
  • Clubs currently members of the Scottish Junior FA are fully entitled to retain membership and, if so, will be eligible to continue to play in The Scottish Junior Cup. The Competition Rules of that Cup will be altered to reflect the need to ensure League Fixtures have priority.
  • There is no limit to the number of teams that will be accepted; With regards to compliance of ground criteria guidelines, the Leagues will work with Clubs with the expectation that necessary steps will be made over time.
  • The new league will be organised on a Conference basis, with final set up dependant on numbers. The Conferences will be for one season only.

There remains much to do to get the West of Scotland Football League up and running. All parties at the meeting last night are committed to continue to work together, to support the creation of the final piece of the Pyramid feeding into the Lowland League.

George Fraser [ Lowland League] John Greenhorn [East of Scotland League] Colin Holden [ South of Scotland League] Gordon Ronney [ West Juniors]

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1 minute ago, eaglelok said:

so are we now junior seniors or senior juniors .

depends if the club in question stays in the SJFA. The Junior Cup is not exactly what it was so not convinced there's much to be gained when the South Challenge Cup is *the* cup.

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It a good statement, with no recriminations.  The door to the pyramid is open for as many clubs as wish to join.

Equally so there is nothing to stop any club from remaining junior. They will still have the junior cup which will also be open to clubs in the WoSFL who retain their SJFA membership.

I'd hope that we would see an indication of the clubs applying for membership during the rest of the application process, if nothing else to prevent any small number of clubs becoming isolated in an non-viable league.

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Great news - clubs into the pyramid if they choose to enter and the Junior Cup remains strong. Hopefully that ends up an all in national cup for all at tier 5 and below, and we can stop having pyramidistas kidding on that the "South Challenge Cup" means anything to anyone.

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Seems a fairly pragmatic approach in the circumstances. However, I'm unsure if it's in the gift of the WRJFA to unilaterally alter the rules of the Junior Cup. Would this not require agreement from the other regions or a vote of clubs at a SJFA meeting?

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