Aqy Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Arthurlie1981 said: Emmm, Arthurlie have indoor toilets as well as out door toilets. We could just shut down the outside ones if it came to that or put a roof over them! Ah, didn't know that fair enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Sergeant Wilson said: It's all toilets, toilets, toilets with you lot. Probably because there is so much being talked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morley Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 In terms of influence of the two respective parties in this debate, how do the SFA make their money? , would be interesting to know what % the non league senior game brings in to the SFA/Scottish game v how much the sjfa bring, so maybe indicate the financial influence each party has with the SFA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 In terms of influence of the two respective parties in this debate, how do the SFA make their money? , would be interesting to know what % the non league senior game brings in to the SFA/Scottish game v how much the sjfa bring, so maybe indicate the financial influence each party has with the SFA. Share of money from uefa etc is a large chunk. If Scotland qualify for euros the money will be even more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag Nation Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 31 minutes ago, morley said: In terms of influence of the two respective parties in this debate, how do the SFA make their money? , would be interesting to know what % the non league senior game brings in to the SFA/Scottish game v how much the sjfa bring, so maybe indicate the financial influence each party has with the SFA. 90% of SFA's income is from TV & Radio the Scottish Cup, EUFA & FIFA, Commercial, and international matches. Any income from the non-league game must be part of the "other income" of 2%, i.e. negligible. 41% of the income is distributed to the clubs and associations, so both groups are probably net beneficiaries. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che Dail Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 51 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Share of money from uefa etc is a large chunk. If Scotland qualify for euros the money will be even more. As I understand it, for the UEFA money, having a functioning pyramid football structure is a pre-requisite 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, Che Dail said: As I understand it, for the UEFA money, having a functioning pyramid football structure is a pre-requisite The Netherlands and Ireland get UEFA money, neither have a functioning pyramid... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 The Netherlands and Ireland get UEFA money, neither have a functioning pyramid...Liechenstein doesn't even have a league (all play in Swiss system). Northern Ireland is similar to Scotland with grade divides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, Marten said: The Netherlands and Ireland get UEFA money, neither have a functioning pyramid... They have both tried to build one in recent times though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, morley said: In terms of influence of the two respective parties in this debate, how do the SFA make their money? , would be interesting to know what % the non league senior game brings in to the SFA/Scottish game v how much the sjfa bring, so maybe indicate the financial influence each party has with the SFA. https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/5331/scottish-fa-annual-review-2019.pdf £37.5m in revnue generated and this is the percentage breakdown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che Dail Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Marten said: The Netherlands and Ireland get UEFA money, neither have a functioning pyramid... Both countries have functioning pyramids. Go and tell UEFA why you think they don't Edited March 7, 2020 by Che Dail 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag Nation Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Che Dail said: Both countries have functioning pyramids. Go and tell UEFA why youh think they don't According to Wikipedia (yes, I know) the Irish set-up is "Organised in the structure of a football pyramid, but in reality operates as a number of separate unconnected entities with no movement between each of them. " 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che Dail Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Stag Nation said: According to Wikipedia (yes, I know) the Irish set-up is "Organised in the structure of a football pyramid, but in reality operates as a number of separate unconnected entities with no movement between each of them. " Clubs have to apply to get into the pro leagues, but that doesn't mean it isn't a pyramid... depending on your definition. To me it's about affiliation, hierarchy, and ultimately regionalising at a certain level (T3 in Ireland?) which creates the spread-out shape (of a pyramid). I really don't know enough about it to be certain about the Irish or Dutch scenarios in terms of share of finances to grass-roots clubs. I do know that in Scotland we have a club-licensing system and in order to get the benefit of the SFA 'dividend', and in effect a share of the UEFA money, you need to meet certain standards, and be affiliated to the league structure and pyramid. But we have this daft arrangement where non-league clubs (some representing big towns) are artificially kept out of it, of their own accord. Edited March 7, 2020 by Che Dail 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Both countries have functioning pyramids. Go and tell UEFA why youh think they don'tGiven that Marten is Dutch, I'm going to guess he has at least a little of a clue as to what happens in the Netherlands... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che Dail Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 46 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/5331/scottish-fa-annual-review-2019.pdf £37.5m in revnue generated and this is the percentage breakdown. Nice pies! Info on prize pot for SPFL clubs: https://spfl.co.uk/news/spfl-prize-pot-reaches-25m 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che Dail Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Salvo Montalbano said: 26 minutes ago, Che Dail said: Both countries have functioning pyramids. Go and tell UEFA why youh think they don't Given that Marten is Dutch, I'm going to guess he has at least a little of a clue as to what happens in the Netherlands... I'm not arguing with that - it might simply be a difference between Marten's interpretation of 'pyramid' to UEFA's definition. I'm going to take it that Wikipedia is (roughly) correct, and say that this is a pyramid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_football_league_system 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 Not again................ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
never been to scotland Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 When will the WOS start taking applications? Friday? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) I was listening to some old guys at Shotts today, although I think they were Carluke supporters, the lack of knowledge was frightening. There was so many misconceptions that it wasn't worth trying to correct them. Edited March 7, 2020 by Sergeant Wilson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che Dail Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: Not again................ HAHA I didny start it this time but it is relevant to the topic, your honour. Because here we have an opportunity for every Junior club to join the pyramid structure and find their level. The whole thing can be organised once everyone subscribes. For far too long, some clubs have been artificially propped up while others have had their potential curbed. And the UEFA thing is important because without it we may not be where we are now as member clubs might continue to say 'nope, closed', as before. And to reiterate my opinion, the league structure in Scotland should be regionalised at T3 - would make for strong 'semi-pro' leagues, and a reduced core of pro clubs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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