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Junior football, what is the future?


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18 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

While much of the focus is rightly on the creation of a WoSFL, we should not downplay the significance of another ERJFA team in Kirkcaldy and Dysart seeking to switch their allegiance to the EoSFL.  

It is significant - not just the fact that they're moving, but what they say in their statement, and the timing of it.

It must surely strike a chord with other remaining Junior clubs because the Kirkcaldy reasons for moving are sound and correct. 

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36 minutes ago, RedEd said:

Yes, but which grade of lead do these pencils have?

But if they had any consideration of tradition they'd still be quills.

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Fair play to Kirkcaldy making the leap. Wonder how that will leave the ERSJFA now. However also opens up more spaces for ambitions amateur clubs to apply juniors. A lot of top Saturday teams could apply to that league if they have correct facilities. Curious to see if other ERSJFA clubs follow suit to Kirkcaldy though

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9 minutes ago, teamfinderscot said:

Fair play to Kirkcaldy making the leap. Wonder how that will leave the ERSJFA now. However also opens up more spaces for ambitions amateur clubs to apply juniors. A lot of top Saturday teams could apply to that league if they have correct facilities. Curious to see if other ERSJFA clubs follow suit to Kirkcaldy though

Things will probably get interesting once it is clear that the south section will no longer be able to sustain two divisions as that will mean a lot of extremely unappetising games for the few remaining big clubs.

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Fair play to Kirkcaldy making the leap. Wonder how that will leave the ERSJFA now. However also opens up more spaces for ambitions amateur clubs to apply juniors. A lot of top Saturday teams could apply to that league if they have correct facilities. Curious to see if other ERSJFA clubs follow suit to Kirkcaldy though

I’m not at all sure that the ERSJFA South Division, going forward, will offer anything that is particularly attractive to ambitious amateur clubs. It is a competition that is slowly becoming little more than an amateur league itself. If they are indeed ambitious and if they can somehow attain minimum standard facilities then why aim for an insular Junior league which offers nowhere to go in terms of progression when you can just as easily apply to the EoSFL and be in Tier 7/8 of the football pyramid?
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1 minute ago, ArabAuslander said:

Newburgh have a slight issue in that they're right on the border and probably would like to be in the same League as Luncarty, Scone, Tayport and Lochee.

Although Jeanfield and Kinnoull are now in the EoS.

Last year it was looking like the North and South sections could be 10-9 & 10-9. It was Newburgh's preference to go South. In the old North and South Divisions they moved between and supposedly preferred South then as well. End of the day they're a Fife club that spent most of its time playing Fife clubs. If most of them move or are already in the East of Scotland League it only makes sense.

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Fair play to Kirkcaldy making the leap. Wonder how that will leave the ERSJFA now. However also opens up more spaces for ambitions amateur clubs to apply juniors. A lot of top Saturday teams could apply to that league if they have correct facilities. Curious to see if other ERSJFA clubs follow suit to Kirkcaldy though


Hearing just about all the Fife teams are looking to join EoS
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1 minute ago, surely not! said:

Hearing just about all the Fife teams are looking to join EoS

It absolutely makes sense for them. A lot of what was left were used to playing lower divisions in the old East Region set up. Think they feared travel down ot the borders and costs that came with it. If they all move you can easily go around setting up Regional Second Divisions with Fife making up the bulk of the North and the Borders making up the South.

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I've said before, there's a place for Junior football if it slightly relaxed it's ground criteria (it must have done if Linlithgow Rose CFC can play at a sports centre) and encouraged in some decent amateur teams. There's going to be clubs who simply want to stay Junior.  Maybe a formal hook up with SAFA.

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24 minutes ago, surely not! said:

Hearing just about all the Fife teams are looking to join EoS

In the south that would be Newburgh, Lochore, Lochgelly, Rosyth, Kirkcaldy & Dysart, Thornton and Kennoway? Would assume Tayport still prefer to play against teams on their doorstep across the Tay bridge. Not a lot left at that point as four of the remaining thirteen clubs are recent additions from the amateurs (i.e. the Mini-me Sauchie, Bo'ness and Lithgae outfits plus Syngenta).

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6 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:

I've said before, there's a place for Junior football if it slightly relaxed it's ground criteria (it must have done if Linlithgow Rose CFC can play at a sports centre) and encouraged in some decent amateur teams. There's going to be clubs who simply want to stay Junior.  Maybe a formal hook up with SAFA.

Well what's the point in that long term? Surely, if a full pyramid is created, it would be just as easy for the EoSFL to have a link up with the SAFA (or the regional amateur leagues) that would let them tack the ammies on below them with different criteria for grounds and the like. 

Keeping the rump of the juniors there for this reason alone feels like a needless step

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