cmontheloknow Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 18 minutes ago, andy25 said: You know everything else though... I do not know *anything*. I have an opinion. Having an opinion is not knowing. Talbot have made public statements about 'knowing their place'. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43574188 " We see ourselves as a junior football team, we've no ambition to play senior football." Talbot could be in the Championship if they so wished to be. They have that potential. Size of town irrelevant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Patterson Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 We might have a better idea later tonight^^^ 2 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said: 26 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said: Supporting the SJFA in these circumstances is like hanging on to the railings as the Titanic sinks, just because the band on deck have yet to play your request. Celine Dion with a rendition of 'My Grade Will Go On'? More like this: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy25 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 They might have the potential but they don't have the infrastructure.I have no wish to see Talbot playing senior football but I realise that if they dont join the pyramid then they will be left behind. I do not know *anything*. I have an opinion. Having an opinion is not knowing. Talbot have made public statements about 'knowing their place'. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43574188 " We see ourselves as a junior football team, we've no ambition to play senior football." Talbot could be in the Championship if they so wished to be. They have that potential. Size of town irrelevant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 If you have 15 minutes free the latest Lowland League catchup podcast covers the recent PWG going on's from their perspective: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kAa4YI8aqiI 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo 1909 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I love the way everybody on here is so concerned about the talbot, more so than their own teams, as usual theres only one show in town, everybody trying to slag us but they all want to play us on a saturday to get a decent crowd instead of just a dozen of your own supporters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I love the way everybody on here is so concerned about the talbot, more so than their own teams, as usual theres only one show in town, everybody trying to slag us but they all want to play us on a saturday to get a decent crowd instead of just a dozen of your own supportersI think you may have misread some posts to be fair...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, geo 1909 said: I love the way everybody on here is so concerned about the talbot, more so than their own teams, as usual theres only one show in town, everybody trying to slag us but they all want to play us on a saturday to get a decent crowd instead of just a dozen of your own supporters Can’t say I give much of a thought to what you will do here. My club has made their feelings clear in public and that is my only concern with it. If others see a different(And in my opinion incorrect) path from here, good luck to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, geo 1909 said: I love the way everybody on here is so concerned about the talbot, more so than their own teams, as usual theres only one show in town, everybody trying to slag us but they all want to play us on a saturday to get a decent crowd instead of just a dozen of your own supporters -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, geo 1909 said: I love the way everybody on here is so concerned about the talbot, more so than their own teams, as usual theres only one show in town, everybody trying to slag us but they all want to play us on a saturday to get a decent crowd instead of just a dozen of your own supporters Errrrm, I don't think I am, so don't say everybody when FACTUALLY that aint true The statement is wrong and is insinuating that both LL and EOS are to blame for the juniors not joining the pyramid which is a total fabrication of the truth. if your club is going to decide to stay junior give a true reason, they shouldn't try and make up lies or untruths As I said previously, I don't know why some are slogging Talbot if they want to stay with an association who has treated their members the way that have done so regarding the pyramid carry on then that's is up to them, nothing wrong with that. But to make knowingly inaccurate statements, that's another thing Edited February 3, 2020 by Bestsinceslicebread 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 But when you go back to when he was giving his 'kosher' news update about the SJFA being at Tier 6 he only described the SFA Board as agreeing in principle. Which isn't a directive is it? Its more a lets try and make this happen. So to be clear there was no directive, no sfa support but an agreement to try and work out a solution until the sfa had it pointed out to them they didn't know their own set up and its processes. Now the sfa who apparently back the sjfa, guaranteed tier 6 and had a directive have walked away from the PWG, disbanding it and essentially ceasing any chance if the sjfa entering at any point in the near or distant future. So in short, lurker was talking bollocks and has been for pretty much a year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieb Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 15 hours ago, Cyclizine said: Any club that relies on away gates to survive has an incredibly precarious business model. It's not purely about away supporters - high profile opposition is needed to keep/boost home and neutral attendees too. Caledonian Braves' reserve side isn't going to do that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I love the way everybody on here is so concerned about the talbot, more so than their own teams, as usual theres only one show in town, everybody trying to slag us but they all want to play us on a saturday to get a decent crowd instead of just a dozen of your own supportersNo just find it quite sickening your sycophantic statement when your club’s actually doing the same as every other club but is just trying to play both sides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crfc Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 The sosl and ll saying no is out of fear of losing clubs to a new set up with a wosl I see teams leaving to join a wosl set up .. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, G4Mac said: So to be clear there was no directive, no sfa support but an agreement to try and work out a solution until the sfa had it pointed out to them they didn't know their own set up and its processes. Now the sfa who apparently back the sjfa, guaranteed tier 6 and had a directive have walked away from the PSG, disbanding it and essentially ceasing any chance if the sjfa entering at any point in the near or distant future. So in short, lurker was talking bollocks and has been for pretty much a year. Basically. The extent of any "directive" can actually be summed up perfectly in TJ's own words. Quote the Board agreed that the SFA should lead and facilitate a meeting. That was it. Essentially start the PWG meetings again with the SJFA and senior leagues and try and work out a way for the Juniors to join. That's all. That's why the first meeting had a straw poll to see if the pyramid leagues were even okay with the idea of the juniors joining. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 23 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said: If you have 15 minutes free the latest Lowland League catchup podcast covers the recent PWG going on's from their perspective. Good listen, and fair points. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepiyo Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, glensmad said: Interestingly, Talbot's statement is still not on their official club website or Twitter, it only appears on their Facebook as far as I can see. Having said that, Talbot's website also says their next match is away to Glencairn, when the match is actually at Auchinleck. It's not a one guy does everything approach, It's three with different commitments. Press release is extactly this "Following the decision of the Lowland League & East of Scotland League not to support the recommendations of the Pyramid Working Group, this would have allowed the Scottish Junior FA to Join the Pyramid System. Auchinleck Talbot FC wish to confirm that we will support the SJFA in their efforts to find a solution to this matter. In the meantime ATFC will continue to work towards achieving Club Licensing in preparation for any possible future changes to the Structure of our game, we can assure our fans that they will be kept informed at the earliest opportunity of any developments, and that we will consult with them before any decision is made on the future of the Club.@ Henry Dumigan Secretary Auchinleck Talbot FC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, crfc said: The sosl and ll saying no is out of fear of losing clubs to a new set up with a wosl I see teams leaving to join a wosl set up .. Why would teams leave the lowland league to go to a west of scotland league? Sosfl losing teams they probably arent bothered about they get to keep their wee league 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, crfc said: The sosl and ll saying no is out of fear of losing clubs to a new set up with a wosl I see teams leaving to join a wosl set up .. It's not clear that the sosl actually did that. It's only the ll and eosl that are consistently stated by people on both sides of the argument as having said no to the SJFA (no idea why some people still can't grasp that this is different from the west region entering alone) becoming involved with the pyramid and entering fully intact. Edited February 3, 2020 by LongTimeLurker -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: It's not clear that the sosl actually did that. It's only the ll and eosl that are consistently stated by people on both sides of the argument as having said no to the SJFA (no idea why some people still can't grasp that this is different from the west region entering alone) becoming involved with the pyramid and entering fully intact. TAJ stated in his communique earlier that the SoS wanted the Juniors in. It's EOS and LL that are the perceived bad guys. Edited February 3, 2020 by cmontheloknow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, crfc said: The sosl and ll saying no is out of fear of losing clubs to a new set up with a wosl I see teams leaving to join a wosl set up .. You believe that? No club will be leaving the LL to drop down a level, and I can't think of any club in the EoS who would even be eligible to join a WoS, Dunipace perhaps but they seem happy where they are, so it's a bit of an odd comment to make. Bonnyton might go WoS, maybe. The LL and EoS want to see a WoS league in place, they have no axe to grind with Junior clubs joining the Pyramid otherwise why suggest a WoS in the first place. They are looking to give clubs a choice in the west, stay Junior or join the Seniors. TAJ's email and Talbot's statement have been noted by those leagues, and neither are accurate or helpful. Edited February 3, 2020 by Burnie_man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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